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Old 01-18-2020, 02:51 PM
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This new arrangement for the Sussexes will start in the spring when they launch their new foundation. Until then they WILL do more royal engagements and Meghan will return to ����...BUT in a year’s time the whole thing will be reviewed by Queen, Charles and William



So they basically giving them a year to test run this and then what... if they good they can keep going but if they want back in then they can return? Is this why they not being stripped of their titles. For the "just in case."

Also Meghan and Harry will continue doing engagements until the spring.
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Interesting. Basically their website is garbage. So they basically got nothing they wanted. Maybe security. And a hybrid went to being nothing at all. No collaboration at all. A lot of these charities won't want them anymore either as the whole point of having a royal patron is the money and publicity that go with it. Which after the I detest has died down will be nothing at all. The Invistus Games will the be one who will want to keep him.


Yep. The website was- not surprisingly- worthless.

They should have kept their mouths shut until the deal was done. If it was an attempt to get what they wanted- it certainly failed.
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Old 01-18-2020, 02:52 PM
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Is the 'Henry, Duke of Sussex' format perhaps to help remind people who the title actually refers to? A lot of people outside the UK who are not familiar with British peerages might not twig when they see 'HG The Duke of Sussex' that it means Harry...
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Old 01-18-2020, 02:52 PM
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This broke on CNN. HRH gone and I'm surprised Harry lost because he was born royal. How about the succession? Are Harry and Archie out ?
Removing them from the line of succession would require legislation in multiple countries. Even if it was going to happen (I very much doubt it) it couldn't just be announced in a statement.
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Old 01-18-2020, 02:53 PM
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Well, time to clean up SussexRoyal.com as there are quite a few "HRH" to be struck....not to mention an entire "Serving the Monarchy" section.

How embarrassing.
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Old 01-18-2020, 02:54 PM
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I imagine the option of losing the HRH permanently is there if there is too much “Royal” in any activities.
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Old 01-18-2020, 02:55 PM
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Wow.........it's a complete break, essentially.
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This statement is even more extraordinary than the last one. The spoonful of sugar in the name and voice of the Queen, then the medicine simply from "Buckingham Palace."
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Old 01-18-2020, 02:56 PM
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Just heard the news that they will relinquish their HRH and repay for renovations to Frogmore! Good! Either one deserves an HRH!!
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Old 01-18-2020, 02:56 PM
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This new arrangement for the Sussexes will start in the spring when they launch their new foundation. Until then they WILL do more royal engagements and Meghan will return to ����...BUT in a year’s time the whole thing will be reviewed by Queen, Charles and William



So they basically giving them a year to test run this and then what... if they good they can keep going but if they want back in then they can return? Is this why they not being stripped of their titles. For the "just in case."

Also Meghan and Harry will continue doing engagements until the spring.
Spring is only 2 months away. I don’t forsee many, if any engagements.
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Old 01-18-2020, 02:57 PM
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There we are.
Where do you puck, that they spend the majority if their time outside the UK?
What are official military events? Not his Invictus games?
Thank you.
I think this is harder than they wished it to be and very clear...
can no longer.....
It was my hope they'd be stripped of the Commonwealth Thing, because ig is too important to leave it with unreliable persons.
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Old 01-18-2020, 02:59 PM
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This new arrangement for the Sussexes will start in the spring when they launch their new foundation. Until then they WILL do more royal engagements and Meghan will return to ����...BUT in a year’s time the whole thing will be reviewed by Queen, Charles and William

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What really struck me: in a year this whole thing gets reviewed by the Queen, Charles, and William.
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Old 01-18-2020, 03:00 PM
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If they are no longer going to be senior working royals who represent the Queen, does that mean they lose government-provided police protection?

Can't see how they could argue to keep it...
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Old 01-18-2020, 03:00 PM
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It was laughable the number of people who were using the Sussex website to support their ideas that Meghan and Harry would still be working "part time" for The Queen and would still be living and working part time in the UK, and telling us over and again that "we must not have read the website" because it was all right there, laid out for us.

That is not how any of this works. No matter how much flowery language is in those statements, these two just got slapped in the face and made themselves and everyone who believed them look like fools.
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Old 01-18-2020, 03:01 PM
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Again, the personal statement from The Queen echoes how much this has hurt the royal family, and for me evident that they were blindsided by the whole thing. They way she talks of her grandson and his wife, specifically mentioning how she has become part of the family, shows they were wanted and needed. This is the worst betrayal for me.

The fact that Henry is effectively stripped of his military appointments, is again quite severe for me. Considering his links to the army, I don't think he was expecting that and I think it's going to hurt him deeply.

Debate around, as they're no longer royals, can they use Sussex Royal or are they going to have to rebrand? I would assume so.



According to Rebecca English, but I see a couple if not most, wanting to drop them.
I'm shocked, and saddened.....mostly for the familial relationships that seem to be broken. I feel so sorry for the Queen, for Charles, for William......I'm glad that this will be reviewed in a year, however.
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Old 01-18-2020, 03:02 PM
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And now we truly see how laughable their website was - collaborating with the Queen, I wonder how they like it now.

I like the fact that it seems to be a clean break (when it'll come in the spring) - no royal tours, no royal duties, no royal patronages - especially when people speculated they'll still get to do that. I knew their website could not be taken for granted if it was not discussed and settled with everyone else.

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the Sussexes have made clear that everything they do will continue to uphold the values of Her Majesty.
I wonder if it's a way to keep them under some kind of control and not allowing them to overuse their names in a comercial way. I wouldn't want to see Harry advertising a laundry detergent for money.

I wonder if they're happy with what they got, because clearly it's pretty far from what they wanted.
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Old 01-18-2020, 03:02 PM
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And it is officially. Not stripped of HRH but will not use them. No longer working royals. No tours. No nothing. The will pay back tax payer money for Frogmore (sounds like they will keep it) and will mostly live in Canada/US and will be allowed to do their commercial work.

They are also still President and Vice President of the QCT.
I don’t see this is a loss for the Sussexes. Neither seem concerned about status. They get to keep their home. They get to make their own money and live in NA when not visiting the U.K.
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Old 01-18-2020, 03:02 PM
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What does this mean- that they are officially no longer royal? I’m guessing that the Duke of Sussex title will die out with Harry.
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Old 01-18-2020, 03:03 PM
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There we are.
Where do you puck, that they spend the majority if their time outside the UK?
What are official military events? Not his Invictus games?
Thank you.
I think this is harder than they wished it to be and very clear...
can no longer.....
It was my hope they'd be stripped of the Commonwealth Thing, because ig is too important to leave it with unreliable persons.
Canada and I imagine West Coast of America is where i'd plum for them staying.

Henry has been stripped of his honorary military appointments; the list is

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Canada
10 November 2009 – present: Canadian Ranger

United Kingdom
8 August 2006 – present: Commodore-in-Chief of Small Ships and Diving
3 October 2008 – present: Honorary Air Commandant of RAF Honington
19 December 2017 – present: Captain General of the Royal Marines
They can still partake in their "personal" patronages, but i've already said this will more than likely be reviewed by the individual patronages because I don't think they're going to want a non royal patron. I imagine Invictus and Sentebale will remain, others won't.

In regards to the Commonwealth, it will probably disappear or be handed over in due time.
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Old 01-18-2020, 03:04 PM
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I just looked at the website. This is so embarrassing for Harry. But more than that it is sad. So sad. So much for members of the royal family with financial independence. Their website will have to be completely changed. Everything he has known has gone now. And his military representations too and his love of Africa.

I am not being cruel when I saw this but no-one will want to onvite tjem to reprense nd them.on the scale they did. So what are they. An actress.eho likes to be woke and a bit terribly academically bright man whose position and charm allowed him to do great work. Amal Clooney is a human rights lawyer. This is sad. I cannot see their new foundation growing. I can see them having to ask Eugenie and Beatrice to take on more work. Is that fair on them?

Harry basically just got kicked. Hard. By his own famy but they did what was right. What else could there be.
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