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03-16-2023, 10:11 AM
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Royal News on the Dukes of Sussex
source Woman and Home magazine / W&H
Elizabeth Culverhouse
2 hrs ago March 16 2023
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are negotiating the terms of their coronation attendance and the demands are pretty understandable.
"The alleged demands they have brought to the table are reasonable, with the couple now having to reach a compromise with the Royal Family to ensure their place at the coronation."
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03-16-2023, 10:20 AM
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doubt if Charles is negotiating with them
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03-16-2023, 10:29 AM
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doubt if Charles is negotiating with them
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You are 100% correct on that one.
He won't be seating at a table, nor a Zoom Meeting, to speak with them and I doubt other royals. This is delegated to committees dealing with protocols for this event and security for guests and public.
Royals in large governments are not out of the Princess Diaries engaging in small details since their calendars are already full for day. The King and Queen might have a say on it but these groups delegated to do the work must have security measures in place as the highest priority.
The seating arrangements for the Sussex couple, or what child or children gets to attend, is not as important as to secure the event in case a person or a terrorist group uses the opportunity to make a statement.
That said, see u in a few days.
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03-16-2023, 10:33 AM
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Negotiations make complete sense. The couple has shown that no place is of limits and they were happy to bring cameras into Frogmore (though one can argue it was there home).
So it makes complete sense that if Harry and/or Meghan is to return for the coronation and if they are to stay in a Buckingham Palace apartment (as the press reports) that there would be certain stipulations and "rules".
If not we may end up seeing a Netflix series. Harry & Meghan: The Coronation Special.
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03-16-2023, 10:45 AM
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Judging by that article (and it does read like a lot of gossip) the Sussexes want to stay at FC with the Brooksbanks, and if they’re all agreeable that sounds great. Archie and August aren’t too far apart in age. (Nor will Lili and the new Brooksbank baby when it arrives I guess.)
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03-16-2023, 11:01 AM
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Granada you are absolutely correct. While Spare has continued to sell well, the couple's popularity has plummeted in recent months. The South Park episode and a recent Saturday Night live skit reflect that many Americans see them as figures to be made fun of instead of the global leaders that they aspired to be. A growing number of Americans polled, believe that the couple's titles should be removed.
https://www.newsweek.com/why-prince-...ilibet-1786536
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Newsweek here also use Convention instead of Letters Patent. Is the term correct or are they just using Meghan as a source? Also they should have mentioned Edward's children here.
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03-16-2023, 11:48 AM
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Negotiations ? The non working Sussex's will be informed of where they will sit and how they are to proceed into The Abbey. By the Group that is tasked with making these complex arrangements.
If they don't like it, they can lump it and stay "home" in America. I bet that would make *most* of The Family relieved, as well as The Courtiers, Officials and Dignitaries invited too. The British Public, doesn't want this to turn into an opportunity to promote The Sussex's Royal connections either. To then monetize in The States.
One less chance for drama to rock the Coronation and take emphasis away from the "resplendent" Ceremony too !
I mean, what can The Sussex's negotiate for ? They left the Family and The UK in the dust.
The Jubilee will be used as the template for where they sit and such. And that was BEFORE all the malicious and damaging information The Sussex's alleged against the Family-Firm to malign and demean them in the World's eye.
No Balcony, no prime seating position, no walking in or out with Senior Royals. They will be the in second tier, behind The Duke of Kent and Duke-Duchess of Gloucester.
Again, The Family is in no mood for drama and discussion. The Sussex's need the association with them, much more than the other way around.
Something, I think is slowly dawning on our rogue Sussex's.
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03-16-2023, 11:49 AM
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Negotiations ? The non working Sussex's will be informed of where they will sit and how they are to proceed into The Abbey. By the Group that is tasked with making these complex arrangements.
If they don't like it, they can lump it and stay "home" in America. I bet that would make *most* of The Family relieved, as well as The Courtiers, Officials and Dignitaries invited too. The British Public, doesn't want this to turn into an opportunity to promote The Sussex's Royal connections either. To then monetize in The States.
One less chance for drama to rock the Coronation and take emphasis away from the "resplendent" Ceremony too !
I mean, what can The Sussex's negotiate for ? They left the Family and The UK in the dust.
The Jubilee will be used as the template for where they sit and such. And that was BEFORE all the malicious and damaging information The Sussex's alleged against the Family-Firm to malign and demean them in the World's eye.
No Balcony, no prime seating position, no walking in or out with Senior Royals. They will be the in second tier, behind The Duke of and Duke-Duchess of Gloucester.
Again, The Family is in no mood for drama and discussion. The Sussex's need the association with them, much more than the other way around.
Something, I think is slowly dawning on our rogue Sussex's.
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What is the likelyhood that H&M do not see it in quite those terms?
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03-16-2023, 12:06 PM
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muriel, exactly.
They boxed themselves into this Corner though. And I didn't even bring up the fact that Harry said the Sussex's WOULD NOT come unless there was a discussion over past grievances he alleges, AND an apology to Meghan by The Family. Good luck with that.
Charles might be sad on *some* personal level if Harry (and Meghan) don't attend, but that's up to them. He has much bigger issues to deal with in Coronation Events and planning.
The Coronation isn't a Family Event to be held hostage to a renegade and perpetually aggrieved son and daughter in law demands for the Spotlight and their Position at The Coronation, that they feel they are owed.
It will be interesting to see how it all plays out.
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03-16-2023, 01:12 PM
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Hmmm...
Archie's birthday- Will likely be acknowledged just like it has been for every birthday with a post on the Royal Family's official social media accompanied by whatever photo the BRF are able to use. Perhaps the one of the Guards' bands will film a performance of "Happy Birthday" to accompany the birthday post. However that will likely be the limit of the public acknowledgement as this is a private family occasion.
Security- Would be modeled on the same plan as for the 2022 Jubilee.
Lodging- Could be possibly be a mix of a London location the night before the Coronation to ensure that everyone is in place at the right time and they they'd move on to Frogmore Cottage.
Balcony-I do not see the Sussex family appearing on the balcony as the Duke and Duchess have created a tense atmosphere with the British Royal Family, the Government of the United Kingdom and the British public. Also I don't see the parents permitting their children to appear on the balcony without them and with very young children, this might be too overwhelming for them.
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03-16-2023, 03:00 PM
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I wish the King would tell them that, if they don't like the arrangements, they can lump them.
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03-16-2023, 06:26 PM
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I'm sure they have been told very politely what arrangements have been made for them should they choose to attend this historic occasion, along with many other far more important people!
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03-16-2023, 06:47 PM
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along with many other far more important people!
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Harry is the King's son. There will only be few more important people than him and his wife present at the coronation.
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03-16-2023, 06:52 PM
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He may be the King's son, but he's managed to reduce his importance in the grand scheme of things dramatically. Its what they wanted (apparently), and so they've got it. I have no doubts that Charles will be happy if his child is there on the day.
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03-17-2023, 02:07 AM
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He may be the King's son, but he's managed to reduce his importance in the grand scheme of things dramatically. Its what they wanted (apparently), and so they've got it. I have no doubts that Charles will be happy if his child is there on the day.
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I have doubts. He'd be happy if Harry is there AND behaving decently. Which he didn't do on the occasion of, say, The Queen's death. Charles missed time with his mother in her last day because Harry was throwing a tantrum that they couldn't disrespect HIS new mummy, Meghan, even after her recent threats of running her mouth again. And didn't do anything wrong with it if he wrote it on the book later without any regret.
Harry is capable of making anyone not want him anywhere.
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03-17-2023, 04:40 AM
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Do you know how many copies he sold in US? Some sources indicate 1.4 million other 3.4 millions��
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It did do well in print in the U.S in its 1st week - 629,300 this is all I can find
ttps://www.npd.com/news/press-releases/2023/prince-harrys-spare-one-of-the-fastest-selling-adult-non-fiction-print-books-since-2004/
as for 2nd week 195,000 that a massive drop if this is the right number. The question is how many unsold books have been returned to the publisher. Penguin Random House have seemed to have gone quiet. I doubt the paper back will do any better.
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03-17-2023, 04:46 AM
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I have doubts. He'd be happy if Harry is there AND behaving decently. Which he didn't do on the occasion of, say, The Queen's death. Charles missed time with his mother in her last day because Harry was throwing a tantrum that they couldn't disrespect HIS new mummy, Meghan, even after her recent threats of running her mouth again. And didn't do anything wrong with it if he wrote it on the book later without any regret.
Harry is capable of making anyone not want him anywhere.
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I cant see that Charles is going to be HAPPY to have him there, as one can never trust him
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03-17-2023, 07:37 AM
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Posts about prince Andrew have been removed. This thread is about the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.
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03-17-2023, 12:44 PM
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Some of the demands are just funny. Them staying with Eugenie and Jack seems fine, but the other demands are silly. They aren’t in a position to negotiate anything and if they don’t come, the show will still go on.
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