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Old 03-11-2023, 03:58 PM
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This is coming from a "friend" of the Sussexes??
No, that was Durham's comment. I quoted what the "friend" said in this post:

https://www.theroyalforums.com/forum...ml#post2536905
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Old 03-11-2023, 04:39 PM
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I dont think that Charles ever wished to remove the HRH nad Prince titles from H's children, but he does not want to add any further HRHs etc to the RF. However, he thought that Harry woudl be a wroking royal. But Meghan raising the race issue meant that he had to tread very carefully. NO matter what he did, he would be liable to criticism from his son and wife. If he had announced soon as he became king that the children were HRH and Prince/ss, H could have retorted that he did not want his kids dragged into the RF with its genetic pain...if he had issued a statement or LP saying that they were not to be known as Prince etc, he would of course be liable to be accused of racism as Meghan had done 2 years ago. so he did nothing, and waited to see what they came up with. and we can see, they want the chidlren to be royally titled even though they are living in a republic where the titles will mean nothing.
Denville, the problem with this is Charles is letting things be dictated by [the Sussexes]. They should be treated like the Duke of Windsor by having no say in anything. The fact that this story came out the day before Edwards birthday is a sign that the palace still has a mole and are being forced to compete with the Duo.
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Old 03-11-2023, 04:45 PM
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But Iím an American and we donít have a line of succession. I would like to know what the British posters think about all of this. Has there been any talk to do something about removing them or does the average person not really care?
A little OT, but yes, the USA does have a "line of succession." 1. Vice President (Kamala Harris). 2. Speaker of the House of Representatives (Rep. Kevin McCarthy, R-California). 3. President Pro Tempore of the Senate (Sen. Patty Murray, D-Washington). 4. Secretary of State (Anthony Blinken). 5. Secretary of the Treasury (Janet Yellen). Then the rest of the Cabinet follows in a set order.

Three of the first five in line are women.
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Old 03-11-2023, 05:13 PM
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I think the answer to that would be his position as the son of non working family members. No one wishes the boy anything but a happy life but there's no appetite in Britain for this family. Not after everything that's happened.

BINGO!!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-fa...ed-coronation/

https://archive.is/mtDF1#selection-1325.0-1341.31

The children of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet, are not currently invited to the Coronation, The Telegraph understands.

Prince Harry and Meghan were invited in recent weeks, but it is understood that correspondence from Buckingham Palace did not mention Archie or Lilibet.

The couple have had no information about whether the children, who are aged three and one, have been included in the plans.

The Sussexes have not yet confirmed whether or not they will attend the ceremony crowning King Charles III at Westminster Abbey on May 6.



I don't know why they would expect their infant children to attend the service and then their claims of wanting privacy would surely discount any attendance at a worldwide broadcast concert or similar event? As ever with these two though its a case of say one thing do another.
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Old 03-11-2023, 07:00 PM
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Only parliament can change the line of succession and they will not do that for anything short of treason... or a major crime.
Treason is not a reason to remove someone from the line of succession e.g. those men who fought against Britain in WWI and had their titles put in abeyance remained in the line of succession as do their descendants today.

Surely the most treasonous was the Kaiser who led his nation to war with Britain but even he remained in the line of succession as do his descendants today.
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Old 03-11-2023, 07:34 PM
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I don't know why they would expect their infant children to attend the service and then their claims of wanting privacy would surely discount any attendance at a worldwide broadcast concert or similar event? As ever with these two though its a case of say one thing do another.

I suspect it's less about privacy, and more about wanting to have full control over how their children are shown to and shared with the world. It's all about the 'brand'.
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Old 03-11-2023, 08:01 PM
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Who stated that the Sussexes expected that their children would attend the Coronation?

Harry would know from his own experience and that of his cousins that no royal children under the age of about seven were ever expected to sit for long hours at church services or any big formal occasions (unless they were attendants at a wedding and even then they would be supervised by Nannies).

I don’t believe the Sussexes have ever expected or demanded that their tiny children would be at the Coronation, any more than Louis, Sienna, August or Lucas are expected to attend.
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Old 03-11-2023, 08:03 PM
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World Central Kitchen are publishing a cookbook, and there are a lot of notable people who contributed a recipe, including Meghan. The book will be available on Sept. 12th.

https://twitter.com/WCKitchen/status...50371640492034

Meghan entered her Lemon Olive Oil Cake.

She also baked this cake during a during Woman's History Month in 2021 in which Archewell worked with WCK to provide meals and support in Chicago.
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Old 03-11-2023, 08:17 PM
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Who stated that the Sussexes expected that their children would attend the Coronation?

Harry would know from his own experience and that of his cousins that no royal children under the age of about seven were ever expected to sit for long hours at church services or any big formal occasions (unless they were attendants at a wedding and even then they would be supervised by Nannies).

I donít believe the Sussexes have ever expected or demanded that their tiny children would be at the Coronation, any more than Louis, Sienna, August or Lucas are expected to attend.
Agreed. I think we will see George as an heir but the others? Maybe the older grandkids but not the toddlers. This story doesn't even make sense.

It is like the Daily Mail headline today saying Sophie is happy she was given the Duchess titles so she no longer has to curtsy to Meghan. Nevermind the fact she never had to and they only do to the monarch and their spouse. But yeah know...

Sell them stories.
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Old 03-12-2023, 01:55 AM
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World Central Kitchen are publishing a cookbook, and there are a lot of notable people who contributed a recipe, including Meghan. The book will be available on Sept. 12th.

https://twitter.com/WCKitchen/status...50371640492034

Meghan entered her Lemon Olive Oil Cake.

She also baked this cake during a during Woman's History Month in 2021 in which Archewell worked with WCK to provide meals and support in Chicago.
Never tried an olive oil cake but maybe i should, sounds interesting (and Breakfast Tacos from Michelle Obama certainly do too)
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Old 03-12-2023, 04:04 AM
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Denville, the problem with this is Charles is letting things be dictated by [the Sussexes]. They should be treated like the Duke of Windsor by having no say in anything. The fact that this story came out the day before Edwards birthday is a sign that the palace still has a mole and are being forced to compete with the Duo.
I am not sure why you can say a mole was behind anything. Edwards birthday is not a secret , even on here there was speculation that Edward would be made Duke of Edinburgh on that day.
I do not know if the Sussex family tried to outshine Edward ,I do not really care and I do not think they do either. The couple have been quiet for a number of weeks , so they are back on the scene.

Once the coronation is over with lets hope everything can calm down, no more speculation just let everybody get on with their own lives.
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Old 03-12-2023, 05:24 AM
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It's basic good manners to answer an invitation when you receive one. If Harry and Meghan had any courtesy, they would let the Palace know whether they would be attending or not.

As for the children, I would think we'll see George, Charlotte, Savannah, Isla and Mia there, and possibly Louis and Lena at a pinch, but certainly none of the younger ones.
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Old 03-12-2023, 05:35 AM
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Denville, the problem with this is Charles is letting things be dictated by [the Sussexes]. They should be treated like the Duke of Windsor by having no say in anything. The fact that this story came out the day before Edwards birthday is a sign that the palace still has a mole and are being forced to compete with the Duo.
dont really know what you are saying.
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Old 03-12-2023, 05:36 AM
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As for the children, I would think we'll see George, Charlotte, Savannah, Isla and Mia there, and possibly Louis and Lena at a pinch, but certainly none of the younger ones.
And Archie, if he comes.

But no August, Lucas, Lilibet or Sienna - they are too young to understand what this ceremony is all about.
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Old 03-12-2023, 05:38 AM
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Treason is not a reason to remove someone from the line of succession e.g. those men who fought against Britain in WWI and had their titles put in abeyance remained in the line of succession as do their descendants today.

Surely the most treasonous was the Kaiser who led his nation to war with Britain but even he remained in the line of succession as do his descendants today.
because there was no chance that he would ever get close to the throne.
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Old 03-12-2023, 06:27 AM
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Replied here to the succession discussion, apologies for not moving it earlier.

https://www.theroyalforums.com/forum...ml#post2537029
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Old 03-12-2023, 06:36 AM
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It's basic good manners to answer an invitation when you receive one. If Harry and Meghan had any courtesy, they would let the Palace know whether they would be attending or not.

As for the children, I would think we'll see George, Charlotte, Savannah, Isla and Mia there, and possibly Louis and Lena at a pinch, but certainly none of the younger ones.
I don't think any children will be invited to the coronation, except George and Charlotte. It is not a family event and there is no reason to include children other than the heir's.
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Old 03-12-2023, 06:49 AM
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BINGO!!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-fa...ed-coronation/

https://archive.is/mtDF1#selection-1325.0-1341.31

The children of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet, are not currently invited to the Coronation, The Telegraph understands.

Prince Harry and Meghan were invited in recent weeks, but it is understood that correspondence from Buckingham Palace did not mention Archie or Lilibet.

The couple have had no information about whether the children, who are aged three and one, have been included in the plans.

The Sussexes have not yet confirmed whether or not they will attend the ceremony crowning King Charles III at Westminster Abbey on May 6.



I don't know why they would expect their infant children to attend the service and then their claims of wanting privacy would surely discount any attendance at a worldwide broadcast concert or similar event? As ever with these two though its a case of say one thing do another.
So the planners are supposed to offer roles to a 3 year old and a 1 year old for parents who are not working royals and have not yet RSVPd? It remains to be seen exactly who of the working royals will have a "role" there.

Wouldn't this count as being put on parade and used for their parents popularity, something that Harry has complained about for both himself and his niece and nephews?

They *could* have brought the kids to some of the Jubilee events they were invited to like the rest of the family did but they'd already left by then.

I mean I know they want photos of Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet attending their grandfather THE KING'S coronation but the article even admits they haven't even confirmed if they are going yet! (Which is rude and probably means they want to negotiate something. Do they want an offer from Charles to have the congregation sing Happy Birthday to Archie with an Arch meets Archbishop presenting him with a birthday cake photo op?
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Old 03-12-2023, 06:52 AM
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I don't think any children will be invited to the coronation, except George and Charlotte. It is not a family event and there is no reason to include children other than the heir's.
I think that Savannah, Isla and Mia are all old enough to warrant an invitation and I'd be a bit surprised if we don't see them (along with James, Louise, and Wolfie for that matter). Louis, Lena and Archie are all a bit on the young side, though if the service is reduced to 90 minutes, they might appear for a portion of it. We'll have to wait and see, but I haven't seen anything to indicate that Charles would exclude anyone but the youngest of his grandchildren and his siblings' grandchildren from such an historic event.
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Old 03-12-2023, 07:07 AM
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I think that Savannah, Isla and Mia are all old enough to warrant an invitation and I'd be a bit surprised if we don't see them (along with James, Louise, and Wolfie for that matter). Louis, Lena and Archie are all a bit on the young side, though if the service is reduced to 90 minutes, they might appear for a portion of it. We'll have to wait and see, but I haven't seen anything to indicate that Charles would exclude anyone but the youngest of his grandchildren and his siblings' grandchildren from such an historic event.
I don't think it is a matter of being old enough although being old enough is a necessary condition to attend the service, which is why Louis will be excluded.

Savannah, Isla and Mia in particular are grandnieces of the King who are respectively 18th, 19th and 21st in line to the throne. Both in terms of proximity to the monarch and their place in the line of succession, I don't see any reason that would warrant their being present at the coronation. There is limited space in the Abbey and I believe there are other priorities that trump inviting distant relatives, especially children.

Of course I may be wrong, but it will be a surprise to me if any of the children other than George and Charlotte are invited.

EDIT: It has been reported that the Queen Consort's grandsons might serve as pages, which would make sense.
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