The Duke and Duchess of Sussex and Family, News and Events 7: Oct. 2022 -

[Tarlita]

Originally Posted by Curryong

It’s Eugenie that is close to Harry, not Beatrice.

This is very good news! The Archbishop of Los Angeles did the honours, there were between twenty to thirty guests and afterwards there was food and drink and Archie and Lili danced together. Sounds fun!

The Archbishop of Los Angeles is Catholic and growing up as a Catholic and going to a Catholic school she should know this. Also did the Bishop bring the Baptismal Font with him along with the holy water from the River Jordan for the christening. Or maybe they borrowed the font from a local church.
I just have so many questions. Did the Bishop get a lift on the plane with Tyler Perry, or did he drive the 1.5 to 2 hours to Montecito.

[Toledo]

Originally Posted by Curryong

Why can’t it be Ashleigh Hale, Meghan’s niece and friend, who appeared in the Netflix documentary?

https://www.harpersbazaar.com/celebr...ashleigh-hale/

The Sussex seem to follow a path to be influencers and every aspect of their lives toward that goal now seems exposed by their actions. I wish the baptism was conducted in the UK, since all that they are is from that source, specifically the royal family. And that King Charles would have proclaimed their titles first, regardless of the 1917 rules.

But now all we see is two bullies cornering the king to a dare game that seems a talk back to the other issue at hand, Frogmore Cottage.

[Asteria12]

Originally Posted by Curryong

Why can’t it be Ashleigh Hale, Meghan’s niece and friend, who appeared in the Netflix documentary?

https://www.harpersbazaar.com/celebr...ashleigh-hale/

Well, according to that article she wanted to shield Ashleigh from the media: "Ash was put through quite a bit by the media just by association," Meghan says. "I didn't want her life to be plagued with all that drama." So surely she wouldn't ask her to be a godmother for the same reason? At least, that plausible deniability works for the god-parenting role as much as it does for the "you can't come to the wedding because of the palace" spiel too.

[Asteria12]

All jokes aside, I actually think its a little sad that little Lili won't get to wear the lovely and historic family christening gown.

[FigTree]

Originally Posted by Asteria12

All jokes aside, I actually think its a little sad that little Lili won't get to wear the lovely and historic family christening gown.

She's too big for it anyway. Miles too big even a six month old is too big.

Family have christening and food and drink. So orginal. She also hasn't been baptised into the Anglican church specifically but it seems A protestant church.

[Asteria12]

Yes, too big now for sure. Its just a shame that she won't have the same photos as her elder brother of her christening to show her own grandkids some day. Perhaps it won't matter to her at all, which would probably be a good thing, I guess.

[Denville]

Originally Posted by FigTree

She's too big for it anyway. Miles too big even a six month old is too big.

Family have christening and food and drink. So orginal. She also hasn't been baptised into the Anglican church specifically but it seems A protestant church.

It was by a bishop of the Episcopalian church which is in communion with the C of England.

[tihkon2]

Originally Posted by FigTree

Charles is the most expensive of them all. He has tastes. The Sovereign Grant that pays for the work they do basically covers nothing though. A lot of the money we pay for them comes in the upkeep of Palaces etc. they do pay for a lot via their private Duchy’s. Which means really only Charles and William is wealthy. And Charles inherited his grandmothers ways with money.

Harry basically had no money. Meghan must have been shocked.

Harry had millions of pounds after the age of 31, through his inheritance from Diana, and do you honestly think there weren't other trust funds from The Queen Mother or Granny?

[Denville]

He had half of the money that Diana left, which was originally 17 million. he and Will had to pay taxes on that, but it was then invested for several years as they were only kids and so it probalby built up again to the original sum. As for the QM nad the queen we dont know what they left to HARrry.

[Hallo girl]

Originally Posted by Denville

But that doesn't answer my question, sorry? If anyone has read an account of the baptism have the parents stated that they invited Will, Kate, Cam and Charles?

I did read somewhere they were invited but to be honest I am not sure if that was an official comment from the couple or 'sources'.

If you recall Archies baptism they had to change the date as the couple had failed to check the availability of the Queen or the then POW before making the arrangements. Going to California for a Baptism would take quite a bit of time out of the Kings duties, there is a lot going on behind the scenes just now.

Could you imagine the uproar if the King had flown out for 1 day then came back again. It could have been left until the Coronation and took place here,
but maybe the guests at home were very important to them so they wanted to do it with them.

As for the titles, going back to the Oprah interview I along with others pointed out Meghans error, when she inferred the reason for a lack of title for Archie. He did have one but they decided not to use it and was not entitled to Prince until his grandfather was King.

There was plenty opportunity for the late Queen and now the King to change the arrangements , they both obviously decided against it. It has nothing to do with cowardice or bullying or no back bone. This is the same King who last week was being called ruthless for changing the arrangements with Frogmore.

I do believe going forward for future generations there will be changes, I also wonder if the King would prefer them to follow the Wessex route.

For all we know the Sussex children might not use Prince or Princess in a daily basis, but what we do know is that the titles have not been removed, and maybe the parents wanted the world to know that. These titles were obviously very important to the couple , as the Oprah interview identified.

The position is now settled and public by that one statement, the children have the titles , and the world knows it, everybody happy. No more conjecture.

They haven't won anything or backed anybody into a corner, the children had the titles automatically the day their grandfather became king.

Something else sorted before the Coronation, I think our Charles is a lot more willey than we give him credit for.

[ACO]

The royal website has officially been updated with Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet of Sussex.

I also agree nothing ultimately has changed except a public acknowledgment of the kids as titled.. That’s literally it: They are still in California. They still doing toddler things:

[Alisa]

Originally Posted by Curryong

Update on Archewell and International Women’s Day.



Today, The Archewell Foundation celebrated International Women’s Day with a visit to ‘Harvest Home.’



This valuable organization helps provide housing, mental well-being support, and classes to expectant mothers who have faced tremendous challenges including domestic violence, substance use and homelessness. Since being founded in 1985, Harvest Home has supported over 600 pregnant women and their children.



As an advocate for women’s rights and supporter of mothers and families in need, Meghan, The Duchess of Sussex and the Archewell team celebrated the women of Harvest Home by creating a pop up baby boutique, hosting lunch from a female owned restaurant, and making a donation to the organization.



Happy International Women’s day to all of you! Whether donating your time, funds, or helping a woman in your community, let’s all celebrate the women in our lives today and every day!

Awesome! I love that they chose a female- owned restaurant to provide the lunch.

[Alisa]

Originally Posted by ACO

The royal website has officially been updated with Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet of Sussex.

I also agree nothing ultimately has changed except a public acknowledgment of the kids as titled.. That’s literally it: They are still in California. They still doing toddler things:

Maybe the Earl and Countess of Wessex should start calling themselves the Duke and Duchess of Edinburgh- maybe then that will force a response from King Charles. :-p

[Biset]

Originally Posted by ACO

The royal website has officially been updated with Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet of Sussex.

I also agree nothing ultimately has changed except a public acknowledgment of the kids as titled.. That’s literally it: They are still in California. They still doing toddler things:

I thought this couple couldn't be more hypocritical. They still manage to surprise me.

Edit: And they even said it’s their birthright. Wow. New low for them, but i’m not surprised.

[Somebody]

Originally Posted by Toledo

I forgot that part on Serena's beliefs. That leaves me down to Oprah or Ellen. I don't get why there has to be secret godparent not disclosed for the public when everything about them is made public by them.



The service also imposes the faith on the godparents like a group conversion? I can't.

You shouldn't accept the role of godparent if you cannot answer the questions in the affirmative. So, it's not about conversion but about reconfirming your faith given the role you've taken to support the child's religious upbringing.

[suztav]

Please correct me if I'm wrong .... but, only royal family members who are members of the COE can be in the line of succession? Lilibet was baptized into the Episcopal church. Does it matter?

[Denville]

Originally Posted by suztav

Please correct me if I'm wrong .... but, only royal family members who are members of the COE can be in the line of succession? Lilibet was baptized into the Episcopal church. Does it matter?

the Episcopal church is in communion iwht the C of E.

[sophie25]

Originally Posted by Biset

I thought this couple couldn't be more hypocritical. They still manage to surprise me.

Edit: And they even said it’s their birthright. Wow. New low for them, but i’m not surprised.

Yeah that bit stood out and shows that it was down right trouble making lies they told Oprah Winfrey ie they are acknowledging now that Archie wasn't due to be a prince until Charles became King but they told Winfrey he wasn't made one at birth because of racism.

[Iluvbertie]

Originally Posted by suztav

Please correct me if I'm wrong .... but, only royal family members who are members of the COE can be in the line of succession? Lilibet was baptized into the Episcopal church. Does it matter?

A person has to be 'in communion with' the CoE so Episopalian, which is part of the world wide Anglican communion is fine.

Remember that the Norwegian, Swedish and Danish royal families along with many German royals are also in the line of succession and they are all Lutheran.

What a person can't be is Roman Catholic or any non-Christian faith.

[Claire]

Originally Posted by Alisa

Maybe the Earl and Countess of Wessex should start calling themselves the Duke and Duchess of Edinburgh- maybe then that will force a response from King Charles. :-p

why not ? And call their children Prince and Princess - it is there birthright.
If agreements made with HM the Queen are not longer valid then why not?

Fergie can speak her mind. Harry can run around with his cocaine. Everyone can enter into any business venture they so desire - with title and royal explotation allowed.