The Duke and Duchess of Sussex and Family, News and Events 7: Oct. 2022 -

[Toledo]

Originally Posted by Lee-Z

last one is adorable, little boy wanting to be a prince
Little girls going with Elsa and Anna, little boys with Harry

In my day we never had a World Book Day, just cave paintings day
I think it's cute that kids can get to relate humor, dressing up as a Harry book cover, and celebrate reading physical books at the same time.

Originally Posted by Royalist.in.NC

Yeah, I agree with you! Any child who is read to has favorites. Mom got her 15 minutes of fame. Isn’t it bizarre how that kind of thing can happen these days?

Don't take it too seriously. The mom is not in the picture of her kid wanting to be a prince, and so far, the most commented celebrity prince would be Harry. It's not her having 15 minutes of fame, it's her 3-year-old having a full day of joy.

"...While World Book and Copyright Day is still a month away, the event the three-year-old was dressed up for is celebrated a month prior and is organized by the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO). World Book Day is a UK-based charity which is held on March 2 to promote reading for pleasure for young people, as per their website. "

[Katariina]

Originally Posted by tommy100

I wonder if the inclusion of The Welsh Cottage in the Royal lodge grounds, the footage from inside Frogmore and BP seen in the netflix documentary from December may have played a part in the decision, on the RF side at least, not to renew the lease as well. The RF having to watch themselves get slated in a documentary filmed in part in royal residences but be hard for them to take. Setting everything in place days after Spare was released seems a bit far fetched IMO - not that Charles may be upset over it but to get it all done for theday after the book was released, quite a quick turn around.

I think you said it yourself, it was the Netflix documentary that really was the reason for this. Spare being released could have just been the final straw to make this official, but the work could have been done after the documentary footage was seen.

[Toledo]

Now on the event Prince Harry is part of from my other link, Prince Harry’s chat with Hamas-defender Gabor Maté, my take is the event would be about coping with the lost of a parent on a tragic event.

Unfortunately, the guest speaker has a very strong opinions on political issues too. This could be the reason for the uproar. We will have to wait for the event to take place, isn't it tonight? and see if it stays on the subject of mental health and avoids dragging Harry into the world of Middle East politics during the Q & A section.

[Muhler]

I will go so far as to claim that this socalled therapist is a quack.

How can anyone seriously diagnose a client/patient after one single session?
And not even after the session! But during the session!

I don't even know what to call it. It's not even a charade, it's mockery of an entire profession and of people who suffer from various psychological issues.
It's insulting, a parody.

[Lee-Z]

i would suggest it's mainly one thing:
entertainment

[FigTree]

Originally Posted by Muhler

I will go so far as to claim that this socalled therapist is a quack.

How can anyone seriously diagnose a client/patient after one single session?
And not even after the session! But during the session!

I don't even know what to call it. It's not even a charade, it's mockery of an entire profession and of people who suffer from various psychological issues.
It's insulting, a parody.

He is a therapist. He shouldn't be diagnosing anyone. That is a doctor ls domain.

[Granada]

Very interesting that Harry in YET another pathetic Interview, made it a point to stress he "doesn't see himself as a victim". Obviously the South Park skit ridiculing The Sussex's hit a nerve.

Again, another dig at his "dysfunctional family" and how he, and his "EXCEPTIONAL wife" as he mentioned, helped him from being "stuck in the Royal Family". I guess more along the same lines that Charles and William are " trapped " .....just as he alleged in the Oprah whine fest. Trapped.

I'd love for someone to ask him then by extension..... " was Queen Elizabeth trapped" ? I doubt she would have viewed it that way.

Then, the unbelievable 'touting' of how marijuana....... it " really helped him mentally" ! Sooooo irresponsible. I find that so troubling.

Then The Diana Card......as always Harry NEVER leaves home without it...... and ready to use.......

"I'm different to the rest of my Family, and my mum felt the same". Diana was an 'in law,' her feelings, and what she perceived, were yes, horrible for her to suffer......But THIS that was about her increasingly estranged husband and in-laws. NOT signaling her BIRTH Family as " different " AND difficult.

IN Harry's mind .....to put it out there. He is just like Diana .But Harry is attacking his "blood family". Very different. Not In law's.

So many don't know how Diana wasnt even speaking to her own mother when She died. Frances, her Mother, criticized her actions and relationships and got shut out. Totally by Diana.
Something Diana did to many, CUT. Disavow. Over perceived "grievances".

Her Mother....Elton John, her Sister in Law Sarah. That's iust off the top of my head.....cut off. And when Diana deemed them worthy of being "friends" in her orbit .....She would let *maybe* let them back. Elton got back before Diana's sudden death.
Her Mother, never did reconcile. Diana never gave her the chance.

WHO does it sound like ?

Poor Harry, do you ever THINK of your kids reading all these allegations about their Grandfather and Uncle down the line ????

[Royalist.in.NC]

Originally Posted by Marengo

Isn't it just a joke? I don't know why we need to mistrust the parents here. Or why we should take this overly serious.

I certainly don’t mean to mistrust the parents! It was a cute and creative idea and maybe it will even help give Mom some exposure with her business. Who knows?

It just blows my mind that due to technology today, anyone can do something like this and it can be seen all over the world - amazing! Looking back at my post, I meant amazing but almost unbelievable that this can happen which is what I meant by bizarre .

I hope that clarifies what I was thinking

[FigTree]

Originally Posted by Granada

Very interesting that Harry in YET another pathetic Interview, made it a point to stress he "doesn't see himself as a victim". Obviously the South Park skit ridiculing The Sussex's hit a nerve.

Again, another dig at his "dysfunctional family" and how he, and his "EXCEPTIONAL wife" as he mentioned, helped him from being "stuck in the Royal Family". I guess more along the same lines that Charles and William are " trapped " .....just as he alleged in the Oprah whine fest. Trapped.

I'd love for someone to ask him then by extension..... " was Queen Elizabeth trapped" ? I doubt she would have viewed it that way.

Then, the unbelievable 'touting' of how marijuana....... it " really helped him mentally" ! Sooooo irresponsible. I find that so troubling.

Then The Diana Card......as always Harry NEVER leaves home without it and ready to use.......

"I'm different to the rest of my Family, and my mum felt the same". Diana was an 'in law,' her feelings, and what she perceived, were yes, horrible for her to suffer......But THIS that was about her increasingly estranged husband and in-laws. NOT signaling her BIRTH Family as " different " AND difficult.

IN Harry's mind .....to put it out there. He is just like Diana .But Harry is attacking his "blood family". Very different. Not In law's.

So many don't know how Diana wasnt even speaking to her own mother when She died. Frances criticized her actions and relationships and got shut out. Totally by Diana.
Something Diana did to many over perceived "grievances".

Poor Harry, do you ever THINK of your kids reading all these allegations about their Grandfather and Uncle down the line ????

They won't have any kind of relationship with Charles or William as it stands. The only hope is that the children, unblemished by all of this, can meet and connect when they are older.

[Tarlita]

Originally Posted by Muhler

I will go so far as to claim that this socalled therapist is a quack.

How can anyone seriously diagnose a client/patient after one single session?
And not even after the session! But during the session!

I don't even know what to call it. It's not even a charade, it's mockery of an entire profession and of people who suffer from various psychological issues.
It's insulting, a parody.

You make a very good point, how could he diagnose someone in one meeting? I fear Harry has seen too many quacks as it is, offering bad advice.

[Curryong]

Dr Mate is hardly a quack! From Wiki. In 2011, Maté received the Civic Merit Award of the City of Vancouver "for his extensive work on addiction treatment and his contributions to understanding mental health and youth related to addiction, stress and childhood development".[19] On May 11, 2018, Maté was awarded the Order of Canada.[20]

[valeas]

Originally Posted by Moonmaiden23

I like how your mind works

But I don't think either princess has any desire to be a "working " Royal. Why on earth would they want that to be part of that mess, with vicious press and resentful public constantly on their backs?

The York princesses have got it made, imo.

Agrred and beside the fact that Andrew is not in a position to blackmail his brother or insist on anything.

[Asteria12]

Originally Posted by Granada

Very interesting that Harry in YET another pathetic Interview, made it a point to stress he "doesn't see himself as a victim". Obviously the South Park skit ridiculing The Sussex's hit a nerve.

Again, another dig at his "dysfunctional family" and how he, and his "EXCEPTIONAL wife" as he mentioned, helped him from being "stuck in the Royal Family". I guess more along the same lines that Charles and William are " trapped " .....just as he alleged in the Oprah whine fest. Trapped.

I'd love for someone to ask him then by extension..... " was Queen Elizabeth trapped" ? I doubt she would have viewed it that way.

Then, the unbelievable 'touting' of how marijuana....... it " really helped him mentally" ! Sooooo irresponsible. I find that so troubling.

Then The Diana Card......as always Harry NEVER leaves home without it...... and ready to use.......

"I'm different to the rest of my Family, and my mum felt the same". Diana was an 'in law,' her feelings, and what she perceived, were yes, horrible for her to suffer......But THIS that was about her increasingly estranged husband and in-laws. NOT signaling her BIRTH Family as " different " AND difficult.

IN Harry's mind .....to put it out there. He is just like Diana .But Harry is attacking his "blood family". Very different. Not In law's.

So many don't know how Diana wasnt even speaking to her own mother when She died. Frances, her Mother, criticized her actions and relationships and got shut out. Totally by Diana.
Something Diana did to many, CUT. Disavow. Over perceived "grievances".

Her Mother....Elton John, her Sister in Law Sarah. That's iust off the top of my head.....cut off. And when Diana deemed them worthy of being " "friends" in her orbit .....She would let *maybe* let them back. Elton got back before Diana's sudden death.
Her Mother, never did reconcile. Diana never gave her the chance.

WHO does it sound like ?

Poor Harry, do you ever THINK of your kids reading all these allegations about their Grandfather and Uncle down the line ????

He's insufferable and probably hasn't given any thought to what his kids might think. They will be brought up on this diet of his (and wife's) myopic opinions, but hopefully as adults they may learn to take a balanced view of life. Time will tell.

[Muhler]

Originally Posted by Curryong

Dr Mate is hardly a quack! From Wiki. In 2011, Maté received the Civic Merit Award of the City of Vancouver "for his extensive work on addiction treatment and his contributions to understanding mental health and youth related to addiction, stress and childhood development".[19] On May 11, 2018, Maté was awarded the Order of Canada.[20]

In that case it's even worse.

He is then committing deliberate malpractice. In many if not most countries you can end up in prison for that.

I cannot recall having heard any professional who during one session can determine a diagnosis. - No reflection, no further sessions, no consulting a colleague, no consulting medical books, no reading up on notes, no in depth analysis. And in a field so complicated as mental and/or psychological issues!?!
That's the equivalent of a doctor coming up with a diagnosis for cancer, without doing any tests, but only based on a qualified guess.

Also, I understand that Maté has come up a number of, shall we say, controversial statements in recent years.

He may not be a quack but he certainly is anything but professional.

[Mbruno]

Originally Posted by Curryong

Dr Mate is hardly a quack! From Wiki. In 2011, Maté received the Civic Merit Award of the City of Vancouver "for his extensive work on addiction treatment and his contributions to understanding mental health and youth related to addiction, stress and childhood development".[19] On May 11, 2018, Maté was awarded the Order of Canada.[20]

He is a CM, which is the lowest grade of the Order of Canada (Member). But he is seen by some as a bit of a "renegade physician" for his unorthodox positions on drug addiction, including his controversial support for the therapeutic use of ayahuasca, which is illegal in Canada, in the UK and in the US (in the latter with an exemption only for religious use).

[Toledo]

Originally Posted by Muhler

I will go so far as to claim that this socalled therapist is a quack.

How can anyone seriously diagnose a client/patient after one single session?
And not even after the session! But during the session!

I don't even know what to call it. It's not even a charade, it's mockery of an entire profession and of people who suffer from various psychological issues.
It's insulting, a parody.

The event already took place at 12 PM noon time and 5 PM GMTime. Here's the outcome from an article 2 hours ago.

Prince Harry Receives Mental Health Diagnosis During Controversial Public Therapy Session
By Michael Hein - Sat March 4, 2023 05:26 pm EST

Excerpt:

Prince Harry was diagnosed with a handful of mental health disorders on Saturday during a livestream discussion with Dr. Gabor Maté...During the talk, Maté reportedly diagnosed Prince Harry with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), anxiety and depression.

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Dr. Gabor Maté and Random House books also presented the livestream where the (cough, cough) diagnosis was conducted on their social media account. When I searched for a link to the video event replay, the only locale is within the Random House's site stating:

Random House, Barnes & Noble, Waterstones, and Indigo Books & Music are proud to present Spare: Prince Harry, The Duke of Sussex in conversation with Dr. Gabor Maté, renowned speaker and bestselling author of The Myth of Normal: Trauma, Illness, and Healing in a Toxic Culture. Join us on Saturday, March 4, 2023, at 12 p.m. ET / 5 p.m. GMT on Vimeo for an intimate conversation as they discuss living with loss and the importance of personal healing. This is a LIVE virtual event only; no recording will be shared with attendees and recording or sharing of the event is strictly prohibited.


It was not free to view. To join you have to buy a ticket and in return you get merch from the Prince, his book. I did some digging and found when you press the buy the ticket + book link it leads you to another page about the event that kind-of tells us upfront this was all a gimmick from Random House to sell books:

Here are some excerpts from the FAQ drop down section on the above sub-page from the main one I listed first:

Prince Harry in conversation with Dr. Gabor Maté (US Access)
# 3 What is your refund policy? There will be no refunds for this event if you are unable to attend live. Refunds will only be given if your order is canceled (see below for reasons your ticket could be canceled), though Eventbrite’s fee is nonrefundable in all circumstances. Please see Eventbrite's terms for more information.

# 6 Will I be able to participate during the event? Ticket holders will be viewing a live conversation; however, there will be no live audience participation. Chat will be disabled and any question pre-submitted and chosen to be asked live will be read by the moderator

Hope they made a lot of money for this Random House stunt. In my opinion, this was not professional and exploiting Harry's mental health issues for a fee, like in a circus, is just a grotesque violation of medical confidentiality.

I'm now wondering if this stunt from Random House was part of the mandatory conditions for Harry to meet. If so, I'm starting to question his ability to make rational decisions is causing other people to manipulate him even more. And that is my free Fake-agnosis. This afternoon I thought it was a serious event and now I see the fine print was to exploit Harry.

[Queen Claude]

Perhaps practices differ by country but diagnosing a patient with depression, anxiety, attention deficit disorder and post-traumatic stress disorder is doable in a single session. I did not see the live stream so I cannot state, nor am I qualified to state, if Maté employed the correct protocols in his session with Harry but I do know enough to know that it can be done in a single session. If the information is there, getting to the diagnoses noted above is not that difficult or time consuming, the treatment plan, on the other hand, may be more of a challenge and require multiple sessions to develop, execute and refine.

[Lee-Z]

But surely this wasn't intended as a bonafide therapy session? Why would you have a paying audience for that?
imo this was just the next part of the book-promotion tour..

[Kataryn]

If the British Royal family, and most of all Charles, had known that Harry tended towards depression and anxiety (and I think after Diana's death it was clear), they should have made it possible for him to avoid the military! It was bound to enhance the anxiety (including the worrying about his status in the family) and lead to PTSD, I think. The idea that joining the military was good for him was a stupid idea which seriously backfired. Of course, there was some sort of family tradition and Harry wanted and enjoyed it, but now they have to cope with the outcome. Meghan and his love for public exposure covered as "therapy" make sure it is bad. But nothing more than they deserve.

[Asteria12]

I've always had the impression that Harry was absolutely potty over the military and was determined to be allowed to join. In fact, watching his behaviour as an adult, I could well believe that his family, particularly Charles, wasn't allowed to say no.