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03-03-2023, 09:04 PM
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He is still Charles’s son and William’s brother. And the King is probably hoping for a much better relationship in the future and to see his two grandchildren on a regular basis.
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Well he’s not a working royal and more importantly doesn’t live in the U.K and is not entitled to anything just because he’s a son of a King (second son of a king). Blood isn’t always thicker than water and I’ll just leave it that.
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03-04-2023, 02:03 AM
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What does it matter. They don’t live there. Relations are not good with the family, so it wasn’t even to be used as a holiday home. It would probably never be used again after the coronation.
Harry has nothing to do with the business of family royalty anymore. He doesn’t see them, spend occasions with them. Basically he is just a blood relative. Who cares about the house. I hope it finds a deserving owner. Like I said, having seen it, it is beautiful.
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The house does not need to find an owner. It has an owner: the Crown Estate. It gives a lessee a right to occupy the property based on agreed payments during an agreed period.
By the way, in some media is said that the lessees themselves have not extended the lease of Frogmore Cottage. That the Sussexes were reportedly "stunned" by the lessor requesting them to leave the property speaks volumes about their unability to understand consequences of their own actions.
In January 2024 the Crown Estate will publish the annual year review 2023 and then we can deduct what did happen with Frogmore Cottage. If the lease actually was not extended by the Sussexes themselves, this would painfully bring them close to their alter egos in South Park.
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03-04-2023, 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Curryong
Omid Scobie was probably upset on the Sussexes’ behalf but the couple themselves are happy in California and aren’t and weren’t upset over the decision at all, unlike Andrew over the possibility of losing Royal Lodge.
The Mirror and other tabloids are now following The Times article with Valentine Low quoting contacts over in California stating that the couple recognise the reasoning behind it. [.....]
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals...ction-29369107
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I think you are correct, IMO the lease was due to be renewed this Summer , there was a conversation approx 6 months before that date. For all we know the conversations could have been going on for some time and the January date is the final legal point. Who instigated the conversation it doesn't really matter, but a decision was reached. I personally believe if they were really angry about the decision they would have made a clear statement to that effect but it has been sources all round.
If they are entitled to any form of reimbursement I would like to think that would happen.
PS I know I used conversations but they are not speaking, it is a turn of phrase which could mean correspondence/ contact or third party but I am sure everybody will get my gist.
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03-04-2023, 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Curryong
He is still Charles’s son and William’s brother. And the King is probably hoping for a much better relationship in the future and to see his two grandchildren on a regular basis.
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Doesn’t need a huge house for that. Got nothing to do with it. He doesn’t need a house to stand empty.
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03-04-2023, 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair
The house does not need to find an owner. It has an owner: the Crown Estate. It gives a lessee a right to occupy the property based on agreed payments during an agreed period.
By the way, in some media is said that the lessees themselves have not extended the lease of Frogmore Cottage. That the Sussexes were reportedly "stunned" by the lessor requesting them to leave the property speaks volumes about their unability to understand consequences of their own actions.
In January 2024 the Crown Estate will publish the annual year review 2023 and then we can deduct what did happen with Frogmore Cottage. If the lease actually was not extended by the Sussexes themselves, this would painfully bring them close to their alter egos in South Park.
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Semantics. Someone to live in it.
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03-04-2023, 03:57 AM
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`Evicted `..!!..How wonderfull...it must comply with their need of privacy....
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03-04-2023, 04:23 AM
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I think you are correct, IMO the lease was due to be renewed this Summer , there was a conversation approx 6 months before that date. For all we know the conversations could have been going on for some time and the January date is the final legal point. Who instigated the conversation it doesn't really matter, but a decision was reached. I personally believe if they were really angry about the decision they would have made a clear statement to that effect but it has been sources all round.
If they are entitled to any form of reimbursement I would like to think that would happen.
PS I know I used conversations but they are not speaking, it is a turn of phrase which could mean correspondence/ contact or third party but I am sure everybody will get my gist.
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If I am not mistaken, the lease ends on the 31st of March. Which would be logical, seeing that their status as working royals ended a 31st of March, so the first lease started, probably, the 1st of April that year.
Now, we now that the notice for them to vacate the housing unit was issued the 11th of January, but we don’t know when communication about the end of lease started. Six months before end of March would be end of September last year, just a few days after HLM’s funeral. That could totally change the reasons and reasoning.
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03-04-2023, 07:41 AM
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In some other news...
New York Daily News Mar 03, 2023 at 1:27 pm
By Dan Clarendon
Jewish group upset by Prince Harry’s chat with Hamas-defender Gabor Maté
An upcoming conversation between Prince Harry and Dr. Gabor Maté has drawn backlash because of Maté's past comments about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
The Times of Israel
Story by ToI Staff - March 3rd 2023 11:16 AM
Prince Harry to hold event with anti-Zionist who defended Hamas terrorists
Britain’s Prince Harry is scheduled to hold a book promotion event on Saturday with a trauma expert who has identified as an anti-Zionist and compared the Warsaw ghetto fighters to Hamas terrorists.
And for something light, this one is cute:
Three-year-old UK boy dresses up as Prince Harry for World Book Day
I don't think any three-year-old can dress himself up. But the picture is very cute and adorable. I hope in years to come he doesn't tell his parents he didn't find it funny.
I could not find any more news that are not about Frogmore. I tried
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03-04-2023, 08:20 AM
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 last one is adorable, little boy wanting to be a prince 
Little girls going with Elsa and Anna, little boys with Harry
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03-04-2023, 09:00 AM
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Genuine question. What does Harry have to go with World Book day
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03-04-2023, 09:12 AM
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The tax year in the UK ends on 5th April, for complicated reasons going back to 1752, so 31st March is a common time for a lease to end.
World Book Day thing - I suspect it was just an easy costume to do, a bit of ginger hairspray and a stick-on beard. Much easier than dressing up as a character from the average popular children's book.
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03-04-2023, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Alison H
The tax year in the UK ends on 5th April, for complicated reasons going back to 1752, so 31st March is a common time for a lease to end.
World Book Day thing - I suspect it was just an easy costume to do, a bit of ginger hairspray and a stick-on beard. Much easier than dressing up as a character from the average popular children's book.
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but he is not a character in a children's book. Seems weird to me.
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03-04-2023, 10:22 AM
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But Harry is in the news a lot, and I guess the parents were hoping for 15 minutes of fame, which they got. I mean, I can't imagine a three year old saying he wanted to dress up as Prince Harry.
ETA that I know his mom said he liked Spare and wanted to be a prince, but I still think the mom had some influence on that. If I had a little boy who said he wanted to dress up as a prince, my first thought would be a more typical 'Prince Charming' kind of costume. It struck me a little odd too that she said he doesn't have a favorite book character because he can't read. Doesn't anyone read books to him? Most preschoolers have a favorite book character even if they can't yet read for themselves. Although I do hope no one reading is "Spare" to him, as that doesn't seem like an age-appropriate book for a small child!
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03-04-2023, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Alison H
The tax year in the UK ends on 5th April, for complicated reasons going back to 1752, so 31st March is a common time for a lease to end.
World Book Day thing - I suspect it was just an easy costume to do, a bit of ginger hairspray and a stick-on beard. Much easier than dressing up as a character from the average popular children's book.
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Speaking of taxes, does anyone know about taxes on income for the Sussexes in the US? I am not an accountant but if anyone is or knows about this sort of thing, I’d be interested.
In the US our deadline is April 15 for the previous year. I plan to spend today gathering what I need to file my own taxes - ugh
World Book Day - the articles I read said that this 3 year old was all about being a prince. Since he’s a strawberry blond and Mom’s a makeup artist, voila!
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03-04-2023, 10:48 AM
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But Harry is in the news a lot, and I guess the parents were hoping for 15 minutes of fame, which they got. I mean, I can't imagine a three year old saying he wanted to dress up as Prince Harry.
ETA that I know his mom said he liked Spare and wanted to be a prince, but I still think the mom had some influence on that. If I had a little boy who said he wanted to dress up as a prince, my first thought would be a more typical 'Prince Charming' kind of costume. It struck me a little odd too that she said he doesn't have a favorite book character because he can't read. Doesn't anyone read books to him? Most preschoolers have a favorite book character even if they can't yet read for themselves. Although I do hope no one reading is "Spare" to him, as that doesn't seem like an age-appropriate book for a small child!
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Yeah, I agree with you! Any child who is read to has favorites. Mom got her 15 minutes of fame. Isn’t it bizarre how that kind of thing can happen these days?
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03-04-2023, 10:49 AM
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Isn't it just a joke? I don't know why we need to mistrust the parents here. Or why we should take this overly serious.
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03-04-2023, 01:03 PM
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I guess part of the lease not going forward issue may be H&M have shown they won't be visiting the UK anytime soon.
They haven't visited since they left apart from for major royal occasions - the late Queen's Jubilee, Philip's funeral (Harry only), the late Queen's funeral. The one exception was a stop over on way to Invictus in the Netherlands. Once Charles' coronation is over there will be no major UK royal events for some time - no jubilees, hopefully no deaths for a while and so what will they come over for? Nothing a hotel or suite of rooms at Windsor when needed couldn't provide for I guess.
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03-04-2023, 01:35 PM
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Reading the live blog of the session with that controversial therapist. Quite frustrating.
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03-04-2023, 02:03 PM
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Can Harry not talk about anything other than how much he hated royal life? The weather? The football results? The price of cheese? Anything at all?!
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03-04-2023, 02:36 PM
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Can Harry not talk about anything other than how much he hated royal life? The weather? The football results? The price of cheese? Anything at all?!
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well, in his book he did talk about his todger and in an interview mentioned the willies of a rugbyteam..that's not royal
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