The Duke and Duchess of Sussex and Family, News and Events 7: Oct. 2022 -

[Granada]

Curryong, pictures don't lie. Frogmore Cottage IS a mansion. Out of curiosity Did you look at the picture Ghost posted ?
Lets not pretend that the Sussex's were slumming it in a sub par dingy small house.

The bedrooms alone must be thousands of square feet. My 4 bedroom home would take up around quarter or less of the house AS PICTURED, from air. It is certainly bigger than 5 thousand plus square feet.
There is NO disputing the footprint of the house. I don't care what "Wiki" says. Have the privacy obsessed Sussex's provided details to them ? No.


I wouldn't be surprised, from looking at the picture of this giant house that one side, or wing, contains the 4 bedroom + nursery and the other side wing, has another lavish master suite, with a sitting room as many mansions do.

But since the publicity shy Sussex's don't like info being released about them or their homes, post renovations especially, we will never know.
We only have information on their palatial Montecito Estate because it was up for sale publicly before they bought it.

Remember, The Queen told Harry it "was" a building site, a shell", that's his words. It was scheduled for renovation. It was totally gutted, the previous 4 or 5 Apartments that the sprawling Mansion housed, containing pokey old rooms were dismantled and a lavish one family home reconfigured.

All according to the Sussex's specifications too.

Oh, and yes another big Thankyou to Ghost for posting the picture. It conclusively removes ALL doubt as to the size of Frogmore Cottage.

[suztav]

Originally Posted by Granada

Curryong, pictures don't lie. Frogmore Cottage IS a mansion. Out of curiosity Did you look at the picture Ghost posted ?
Lets not pretend that the Sussex's were slumming it in a sub par dingy small house.

The bedrooms alone must be thousands of square feet. My 4 bedroom home would take up around quarter of the house AS PICTURED, from air.
There is NO disputing the footprint of the house. I don't care what "Wiki" says. Have The Sussex's provided details to them ? No.


I wouldn't be surprised, from looking at the picture of this giant house that one side, or wing, contains the 4 bedroom + nursery and the other side has another lavish master suite, with a sitting room as many mansions do.

But since the publicity shy Sussex's don't like info being released about them or their homes, post renovations especially, we will never know.
We only have information on their palatial Montecito Estate because it was up for sale publicly before they bought it.

Remember, The Queen told Harry it "was" a building site, a shell", that's his words. It was scheduled for renovation. It was totally gutted, the previous 4 or 5 Apartments that the sprawling Mansion housed, containing pokey old rooms were dismantled and a lavish one family home reconfigured.

All according to the Sussex's specifications too.

You live in West Chester and I live in Philadelphia ... so, I think it's safe to say that you will understand when I compare this to a very, very nice home on the Main Line. Bryn Mawr?

Truth is ... nothing would be good enough for Meghan because she had buyer's remorse and wanted out of merry ole' England before the ring was even slipped on her finger. JMHO!

[Curryong]

Do most people in the public eye enjoy posting info on their homes online or to newspapers? I would think not! And I did not say that FC was dingy or sub par. I said it was imo ugly.

I also said that it did not compare with Gatcombe Park, Royal Lodge, or Anmer or the Wessexes’ home. And it doesn’t.

[TLLK]

Originally Posted by Curryong

This article mentions that the apartment 1 at KP had to have asbestos removal, which upped the price of renovations to more than 4 million.

https://honey.nine.com.au/royals/meg...9-b39aac80b95b

Thank you for finding this article. Considering that Apt 1A had asbestos in its insulation, it's not surprising that Apt. 1 had it as well.



Honestly I believe like all the BRF members who have lived in renovated properties, there were going to be grumblings from some sectors of the public and the tabloids.

[Katariina]

Originally Posted by Curryong

Do most people in the public eye enjoy posting info on their homes online or to newspapers? I would think not! And I did not say that FC was dingy or sub par. I said it was imo ugly.

I also said that it did not compare with Gatcombe Park, Royal Lodge, or Anmer or the Wessexes’ home. And it doesn’t.

Harry said in his book they chose it themselves so I doubt they thought it ugly. To me it it looks lovely and bright and fits Meghan's style which is not very romantic or colorful. The interiors were also renovated to their tastes, and the space could have been used to something other than bedrooms. You mentioned the renovation prices but since the renovation cost millions already I doubt that was the reason. There must have been some places available that didn't require renovations that did cost so much. Harry said in the book they had multiple options that they dismissed due to size, it was not a choice between the cottage and Kensington only.

[Granada]

Curryong, we are getting off-topic so I will end my participation in this debate about Frogmore and agree to disagree. Doesn't matter.

As I said anyway, Frogmore is a moot point. Its not theirs anymore. Actions have consequences as The Sussex's are finding out.
Their footprint, relevance in the UK has evaporated and is diminishing in my Country, America.

Suztav, definitely agree ! Or places like Villanova or Devon. Some beauties there !

[Lilyflo]

Originally Posted by Curryong

I also said that it did not compare with Gatcombe Park, Royal Lodge, or Anmer or the Wessexes’ home. And it doesn’t.

No it doesn't but that was Harry's choice. He could have had comparable properties to Anmer but turned them down.

[ACO]

Originally Posted by suztav

You live in West Chester and I live in Philadelphia ... so, I think it's safe to say that you will understand when I compare this to a very, very nice home on the Main Line. Bryn Mawr?

Truth is ... nothing would be good enough for Meghan because she had buyer's remorse and wanted out of merry ole' England before the ring was even slipped on her finger. JMHO!

Why is that? I have never heard Meghan complain about Frogmore Cottage, quite the opposite. They teased about Nottingham Cottage being small but so did William . There is a video of him with and Harry talking how they had to tilt their heads to walk around. It is small. It was build in a different era. But it was fond memories for them all.

Meghan lived modestly compared to the rest of the family. So I think things were fine enough considering all else that was going on.

[Curryong]

Originally Posted by Lilyflo

No it doesn't but that was Harry's choice. He could have had comparable properties to Anmer but turned them down.

Where? Which country properties comparable to Anmer on Crown Estates in the countryside did Harry and Meghan turn down when they were looking for somewhere to live? And please don’t say the Herefordshire estate, because we don’t know for certain that either Prince, then single, was offered it by Charles.

[ACO]

Harry said they were offered other properties. Obviously Apt in KP. My guess Adelaide Cottage where the Waleses are currently living probably was offered since they clearly wanted to be in Windsor. Who knows. Doesn't really matter.

As I said anyway, Frogmore is a moot point. Its not theirs anymore. Actions have consequences as The Sussex's are finding out.

So we are admitting now that Charles is acting out of revenge and not so called practicality after all? Lol

[Ghost]

Originally Posted by ACO

Harry said they were offered other properties. Obviously Apt in KP. My guess Adelaide Cottage where the Waleses are currently living probably was offered since they clearly wanted to be in Windsor. Who knows. Doesn't really matter.

So we are admitting now that Charles is acting out of revenge and not so called practicality after all? Lol

Why say that? What makes you to say it’s revenge? A real reason, not suppositions. It is a genuine question.

[SirGyamfi1]

Originally Posted by Curryong

Where? Which country properties comparable to Anmer on Crown Estates in the countryside did Harry and Meghan turn down when they were looking for somewhere to live? And please don’t say the Herefordshire estate, because we don’t know for certain that either Prince, then single, was offered it by Charles.

What does it matter? Why should it be comparable to any other royal property?

[Lilyflo]

Originally Posted by Curryong

Where? Which country properties comparable to Anmer on Crown Estates in the countryside did Harry and Meghan turn down when they were looking for somewhere to live? And please don’t say the Herefordshire estate, because we don’t know for certain that either Prince, then single, was offered it by Charles.

We have no idea which "grand, lavish" properties they turned down but Harry says they were offered so don't you believe him?

[SirGyamfi1]

Originally Posted by ACO

Harry said they were offered other properties. Obviously Apt in KP. My guess Adelaide Cottage where the Waleses are currently living probably was offered since they clearly wanted to be in Windsor. Who knows. Doesn't really matter.



So we are admitting now that Charles is acting out of revenge and not so called practicality after all? Lol

Even if he “acted out of revenge”, what difference does it make? They don’t live in Frogmore or any part of the U.K. If you get perks from a company or family and choose to stop working for or with a company, you don’t get to keep any benefits do you? Especially after badmouthing so publicly.

If being “vacated” from Frogmore is a punishment, then it’s the most lenient so called punishment I’ve heard of especially after their whinging and whining these past three years.

[muriel]

Originally Posted by ACO

So we are admitting now that Charles is acting out of revenge and not so called practicality after all? Lol

Not sure how you got to that conclusion from the conversation above.

[Curryong]

I think Harry was talking about the KP apartment when he spoke of ‘grand and lavish’. I clearly remember at the time that the media mentioned Frogmore House (which would not have been offered!) and Adelaide Cottage which is not grand or lavish.
One article I remember stated that there was nothing available on the Sandringham estate. I hoped at the time that they would have been given some land in Oxfordshire (a place they loved as newlyweds) on which to build, but they weren’t.

[Alison H]

I don't think it's revenge at all, although I wouldn't blame Charles if it were. Charles wants Andrew to cut his living expenses, as was being reported before Frogmore was mentioned, but to stay on the Windsor estate for security reasons. Harry and Meghan aren't using Frogmore, and it fits the bill for Andrew.

[Heavs]

As for the somewhat mythical Herefordshire estate, not too many details on it, but neither Prince wanted it. They were both single at the time, it was miles away from London, their friends, any polo club (they were both playing then) and neither had any fancy to be a squire on some run-down estate in a county where they had no links.

It's not mythical the fact that the Duchy purchased Harewood Park. It exists. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harewood_Park

The fact that neither prince wanted it isn't particularly surprising but it should not be discounted from any discussion about Charles planning for his sons' homes.

No one is talking about a 3 bed semi in Swindon or even evicting them out of a beloved holiday home.

[SirGyamfi1]

Originally Posted by Curryong

I think Harry was talking about the KP apartment when he spoke of ‘grand and lavish’. I clearly remember at the time that the media mentioned Frogmore House (which would not have been offered!) and Adelaide Cottage which is not grand or lavish.
One article I remember stated that there was nothing available on the Sandringham estate. I hoped at the time that they would have been given some land in Oxfordshire (a place they loved as newlyweds) on which to build, but they weren’t.

Why would they be given land to build on? How many centuries ago was that done for any royal? No royal in 21st century has been given land to build on.

[Lilyflo]

Originally Posted by Curryong

I think Harry was talking about the KP apartment when he spoke of ‘grand and lavish’.

Harry was talking about more places than just the KP apartment. He said they were offered "several" properties and "each was too grand. Too lavish".