The Duke and Duchess of Sussex and Family, News and Events 7: Oct. 2022 -

[Toledo]

When I read today 'Evicted' in the news, and in El Pais they wrote 'desaloja which means to vacate,' I thought this was just press being dramatic. I'm sure they knew in advance, and everything was set and ready prior to the press release.

I can't possibly imagine KCIII sending a court Marshall (like they do in the USA) to tape a sign at Frogmore's door saying you have 30 days to vacate your apartment. It it helps, El Pais stated today the talks started in January after certain publication came to be:

El Pais - Madrid - 01 MAR 2023 - 06:28 EST
Title in Spanish: El rey Carlos III desaloja a Enrique y a Meghan de Frogmore Cottage para que se mude su hermano Andrés

King Charles III evicts Harry and Meghan from Frogmore Cottage to move his brother Andrew

[ACO]

[…]My guess the funeral was the last time we will ever see these people together. Many will be thrilled.

Harry has some speaking engagements coming up. I wonder if this will be mentioned. Would be interesting to hear how it all went down.

[soapstar]

Comments discussing how Charles (and other members of the BRF) feel about Archie and Lili have been deleted. This type of speculation is unnecessary and adds nothing to the discussion, so please don’t go there.

[SirGyamfi1]

Originally Posted by soapstar

Comments discussing how Charles (and other members of the BRF) feel about Archie and Lili have been deleted. This type of speculation is unnecessary and adds nothing to the discussion, so please don’t go there.

Thank you for that because I actually said to the poster that we shouldn’t speculate on that.

[SirGyamfi1]

Originally Posted by Anna1519

I truly hope you're correct that it's only tabloid speculation about Andrew moving in. I initially dismissed because that part of it seemed way too far fetched, but it seems to be gaining consensus among the other reporters who have written about this. We'll see. I see the merit in Harry and Meghan letting go of Frogmore if they're not going to use it but my view is that it's distasteful to strip them of the home and then give it to Andrew of all people. It's why I feel stripping Harry of Frogmore and/or theoretically his titles and everything else is excessively punitive - yes, Andrew lost the ability to represent the family in an official capacity and has to downsize but he is still allowed (reportedly) to live on a Crown Estate property and has access to the family. The reporter who broke today's story is framing this decision as not just a financial one but also a post-Spare act of retribution and de facto exile for Harry. I don't think it's fair to lump him in with Andrew, regardless of whether or not I have disagreements with some of what Harry has said and done (I do, for the record). But I don't want to veer too off topic so my apologies if I have.

The thing with Andrew on Royal Lodge vs the Sussexes on Frogmore is that Andrew has been in Royal Lodge for much longer than the Sussexes at Frogmore, and he lives in the U.K full time on the property whereas the Sussexes hardly come to the U.K. plus Andrew has paid more on his lease than the Sussexes and lives in the home even after all the refurbishments.

The point of Harry not having (he’s hasn’t been stripped of his titles or removed from the succession) his titles was stop him and Meghan from commercially abusing their titles because it is incompatible with the BRF way of doing things. Plus to stop him claiming he represents the family on certain things because if he was doing something questionable, it would reflect on the BRF and no one wants to respond to media or reports about their activities because they don’t work for the BRF. Plus Harry lives in America, a country that doesn’t recognise titles so why should he be using them? If not for his silly ventures. This was discussed at the Sandringham summit when the Queen was alive.

Harry doesn’t have access to the family because he’s disparaging the family for his book deals and docuseries that involve him saying nasty things about them which he’s being paid millions for? You can’t trust someone’s character when they are being paid to say silly things for money (it says a lot about a persons character), a number of his allegations are baseless and vague. Plus he has leaked conversations to Gayle King and Omid, two people who are obviously not family members and in the case of Omid, engaging in silly PR tactics in stirring up mess on twitter for team Sussex. He and Andrew aren’t in the same boat, but Andrew at least keeps his mouth shut and doesn’t disparage the BRF for money or out of conceived slights.

[Ghost]

What if the RF pulls a blind and William and Andrew swap homes? It would be funny!

A lot of times the RF’s moves are unexpected. The only confirmed fact is that the Sussexes have been asked to vacate. The rest is speculation.

Charles has proved many times that he’s a true Scorpio, he can sting in a precise and … well, stingy manner.

[Ista]

A number of posts about Prince Andrew and his family have been deleted: this is the Sussex thread, so if you wish to discuss the housing situation as it concerns the York family, please do it on Prince Andrew's thread.

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[Athena41]

Is it possible they did not renew the lease on Frogmore last year or that the King said no, and they had to move out. In their Netflix doc they showed Meghan and Harry packing up all their belongings also photos of them arriving back in the US after the Queens Jubilee with some of their belongings.

[Denville]

well what do they want the house for? They have not lived there for over 3 years and lent it to Eugenie for a time. They are not likely to live in the UK again.

[JR76]

Originally Posted by Athena41

Is it possible they did not renew the lease on Frogmore last year or that the King said no, and they had to move out. In their Netflix doc they showed Meghan and Harry packing up all their belongings also photos of them arriving back in the US after the Queens Jubilee with some of their belongings.

According to a source quoted by Omid Scobie they haven't emptied the house - "This is not just some random rental they keep for convenience. Every drawer is full, every closet is packed… It’s a real family home.”

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/inside-sto...MC3VR6vO3cYMbN

[Alison H]

Originally Posted by JR76

According to a source quoted by Omid Scobie they haven't emptied the house - "This is not just some random rental they keep for convenience. Every drawer is full, every closet is packed… It’s a real family home.”

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/inside-sto...MC3VR6vO3cYMbN

I'm sure that the stuff they keep at Frogmore can be fitted into a few closets in their mansion in Montecito. How many clothes can they need?

[Athena41]

Sorry I take whatever Scobie say's with a large grain of salt.

Just to add Emily Andrews posted a tweet hinting at that Harry and Meghan packed up last year and it was filmed for their Netflix doc.

[Claire]

Originally Posted by Alison H

I'm sure that the stuff they keep at Frogmore can be fitted into a few closets in their mansion in Montecito. How many clothes can they need?

I would think if anything was important to them - it would have been taken to Montecito. It makes it sound like Frogmore is a storage unit.

[Athena41]

This from Emily Andrews
https://64.media.tumblr.com/91e1c9ec...b0d3aa2618.png
It seems they moved out a while ago.

[Asteria12]

I don't think many people would leave "family things" in their 2nd house for 3 years! As you said Claire, anything truly important, sentimental or useful would have been fetched and sent already!

[wartenberg7]

I think that´s it for good when it comes to their attendance at the coronation....
Yes, Asteria12, I fully agree with you. And there really is no need to keep this lavish and luxurious (from a "normal mortal" point of view) cottage when you are staying in the UK may be once a year for only a couple of days, when the average person can hardly find an affordable place to live.

[Alison H]

I think we probably will see Andrew moving in there, and that it's part of a general move round. I certainly don't think it's been done just as a move against the Sussexes.

[Lilyflo]

Originally Posted by JR76

According to a source quoted by Omid Scobie they haven't emptied the house - "This is not just some random rental they keep for convenience. Every drawer is full, every closet is packed… It’s a real family home.”

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/inside-sto...MC3VR6vO3cYMbN

I don't believe that for a minute. It's fully furnished of course as any second home would be but if every drawer and cupboard were full, Eugenie wouldn't have been able to live there.

How many days has Archie spent in this "real family home" since leaving the UK in October 2019?

[Mirabel]

Originally Posted by Denville

well what do they want the house for? They have not lived there for over 3 years and lent it to Eugenie for a time. They are not likely to live in the UK again.

True, why should the house be left standing empty for years?

As for reimbursing the Sussexes for the money spent on renovations, it wouldn't surprise me to learn that the funds came from Charles in the first place.

[Tatiana Maria]

Originally Posted by Athena41

Sorry I take whatever Scobie say's with a large grain of salt.

Just to add Emily Andrews posted a tweet hinting at that Harry and Meghan packed up last year and it was filmed for their Netflix doc.

Athena41 is referring to this tweet by correspondent Emily Andrews sharing Netflix documentary screencaps:

https://twitter.com/byEmilyAndrews/s...13095228297222

Originally Posted by tausi

Some of the media is reporting that they didn’t reimburse the renovations as promised and Charles paid it. I don’t know how truthfully is this.

Which media?