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04-21-2022, 03:01 PM
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..And I mean it’s all available opportunities. You won’t be a champion ice-skater being born in Spain.
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Javier Fernandez, two time world champion, seven time european champion in ice(figure) skating is born in Spain..
sorry, couldn't resist
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04-21-2022, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Curryong
Where in the interview did Harry state that he is ‘the closest person to the Queen’ ‘the only person who cares about her welfare’ and that his grandmother can ‘only speak to him about certain things’?
In fact I can imagine that the Queen and her grandson to have a good chat and giggle about all sorts of things. And even ‘royal commentators’ who loathe Meghan have not inferred that she wasn’t with Harry. In fact he stated clearly at one point ‘Yes We had tea with her (the Queen)’.
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Perhaps you are correct about whether Meghan was present. I missed the "we had tea with her." However, none of my conclusions were in quote marks, indicating that I was paraphrasing what he said and drawing my own conclusion. Everyone is free to draw their own conclusion, even if they don't agree.
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04-21-2022, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ladongas
I’m not sure how the Windsor ‘bubble’ was set up to protect the Queen.
But it failed.
Somehow, after nearly two years of the pandemic, the Queen contracted Covid. The protocol for determining who was healthy enough to meet with the Queen was apparently not followed, and she is now in the greatly weakened state that can follow Covid, not uncommon, particularly in the aged.
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I don't know that the COVID prevention protocols was not followed. Many people can have COVID and not realize it. Even if palace staff is testing every day, it can take several days after exposure for a person to test positive. Moreover, someone can test negative in the morning but be exposed at a later time in the day. Absent completely cutting people off from the outside world, there is no way to eliminate any risk of contracting COVID.
It was unfortunate but I don't think it was anyone's fault.
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04-21-2022, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by angieuk
No 10 Downing Street - Prime Minister .... saying they are happy with the Queen's security; in light of Harry's statement.
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I wasn't able to find a statement from the Prime Minister; could you post the source?
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Originally Posted by JoanHarry
There is another scenario that could account for Harry’s remarks regarding his making sure she has the “right people” around her: The Queen wanted to see Harry in person to discuss his role as Counsellor of State and explain that he and Andrew will both be removed from that role for not being working royals. (I see Anne and Edward being substituted, which yes, will require some legal effort). I have no idea if this is true, but it fits his strange remarks.
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Originally Posted by yukari
Could it has something to do with Chancellor of State? Upcoming palace announcement of some change perhaps?
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That seems unlikely because immediately after the news broke of Prince Andrew's legal settlement, the Palace confirmed there were no plans to remove his position as a potential Counsellor of State.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...-abuse-lawsuit
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Originally Posted by Roderick
Have I missed something? How do we know that Harry has even been invited to participate in Platinum Jubilee events?
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That the Sussexes were invited was stated in a recent report by Victoria Ward in the Telegraph, which Buckingham Palace neither confirmed nor denied.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-fa...eens-platinum/
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Originally Posted by OwlBranch
Years ago, Prince Charles was not allowed to marry the woman he loved because of silly rules. We all know how much unhappiness that caused.
Later on, Prince William was allowed to marry the girl he loved even though she is a commoner and is not a virgin.
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Originally Posted by Tatiana Maria
While I am aware that Prince Charles's first marriage grew unhappy, I have not heard of another proposed marriage (to Camilla Shand or anyone else) being vetoed because the would-be bride was a commoner or not a virgin. Is that information based on a reliable source?
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04-21-2022, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Lee-Z
Javier Fernandez, two time world champion, seven time european champion in ice(figure) skating is born in Spain..
sorry, couldn't resist 
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He moved to Northern America very young. There just wouldn’t have been the coaches and training facilities available to continue to train at such a high level for him to do what he did.
But it’s off topic.
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04-21-2022, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by US Royal Watcher
I don't know that the COVID prevention protocols was not followed. Many people can have COVID and not realize it. Even if palace staff is testing every day, it can take several days after exposure for a person to test positive. Moreover, someone can test negative in the morning but be exposed at a later time in the day. Absent completely cutting people off from the outside world, there is no way to eliminate any risk of contracting COVID.
It was unfortunate but I don't think it was anyone's fault.
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Agreed. It's important to remember that the different variants with mild symptoms can be more easily transmitted among fully vaccinated and bolstered people before they realize that they are infected. It seems this was the case with HM and the Windsor bubble.
I am incredibly impressed that they managed to keep HM protected throughout the worst of of the pandemic.
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04-21-2022, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by US Royal Watcher
I don't know that the COVID prevention protocols was not followed. Many people can have COVID and not realize it. Even if palace staff is testing every day, it can take several days after exposure for a person to test positive. Moreover, someone can test negative in the morning but be exposed at a later time in the day. Absent completely cutting people off from the outside world, there is no way to eliminate any risk of contracting COVID.
It was unfortunate but I don't think it was anyone's fault.
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After two years of pandemic, the testing had evolved, and certainly the knowledge of exposure time was well known. “Absent completely cutting people off…”- what was the purpose of the Bubble, then? There was a failure.
N.B: not trying to change the topic, just pointing out that Harry may have had a point.
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04-21-2022, 04:38 PM
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Testing does have false negatives. In fact, with the new varients, false negatives are becoming more problematic. Combine that with asymptomatic carriers, and it's nearly impossible to prevent covid transmission. I know a true bubble was created in the early days before vaccines, but I think it's completely unfair to demand that the Queen's staff live their lives forever in such a manner. They have loved ones too.
It's sad that the Queen caught covid, but I don't think, without actual evidence, it's fair to accuse her staff of failing her. Prior to contracting Covid, it appeared that the Queen herself wanted to engage in events that carried some risk of exposure. Was her staff to ignore her wishes, and order her locked in a tower? She's not a child, and there's no evidence that she's incapable of making her own decisions.
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04-21-2022, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by US Royal Watcher
I don't know that the COVID prevention protocols was not followed. Many people can have COVID and not realize it. Even if palace staff is testing every day, it can take several days after exposure for a person to test positive. Moreover, someone can test negative in the morning but be exposed at a later time in the day. Absent completely cutting people off from the outside world, there is no way to eliminate any risk of contracting COVID.
It was unfortunate but I don't think it was anyone's fault.
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I know plenty of people who've been extremely careful due to health concerns, but have still contracted Covid. Unless you isolate yourself completely, it's impossible to be 100% protected. As US Royal Watcher said, plenty of people don't test positive until they've been infected for a few days.
The bubble only applied for so long. The Queen has met plenty of people in person since being vaccinated. Unless every single person she met was asked to self-isolate for 2 weeks beforehand, there's no way that she could have been 100% protected. And no-one can be cut off completely. Things still have to be delivered. She may have had to see doctors, or dentists. I don't think there was any failure in terms of protecting her. They did all they could. I doubt that that's what Harry meant.
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04-21-2022, 04:45 PM
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1. Let's be perfectly honest here, people wouldn't know who Diana was if she wasn't married to the future King of Britain.
2. My point is, the only reason why people notice Harry is simply because he is a member of the BRF. Do you seriously believe that Harry would be interviewed by Oprah if he was simply "Harry Smith"?
3. There will be no Invictus Games without PRINCE Harry. I doubt Invictus Games would have even existed if he wasn't a prince.
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Similar games existed PRIOR to Harry. Just not under the 'Invictus' label. They were called the Warrior Games. Harry visited them in 2013 and decided to create a similar event - which grew to a much larger and more international event primarily because of his name. However, the Warrior Games still exist as well with many (mainly US) veterans participating.
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Originally Posted by US Royal Watcher
I would be shocked if Harry and Meghan haven't been invited to participate in the Jubilee on some level. For the 60th Jubilee, the only people on the balcony were the Queen, Phillip, and Charles immediate family. I suspect that the whole family will be on the balcony this time around to avoid the same awkwardness that would have occurred if certain family members had been allowed to wear uniforms at Phillip's funeral.
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The Jubilee solution from last time is perfect in this case, isn't it? That would create the least awkwardness imho. Just the 'core family', which is those in 'direct line' to the throne with their immediate family. Previously Harry was included as part of Charles' family but now he has his own family, so the 'similar' solution would be: Queen, Prince of Wales (with Duchess of Cornwall), Duke of Cambridge (with Duchess of Cambridge and their 3 children).
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04-21-2022, 05:26 PM
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I don't think that the Diamond Jubilee balcony appearance, which I assume was Prince Charles pushing his "slimmed down monarchy" idea, went down very well. I think most people want to see the wider family there too. And I thought it was awful that Anne, Edward and Sophie were excluded when they do so much work.
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04-21-2022, 05:27 PM
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It's not unreasonable to anticipate that Harry might be booed if he emerges on the balcony.
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04-21-2022, 05:33 PM
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It's not unreasonable to anticipate that Harry might be booed if he emerges on the balcony.
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He wouldn’t be. Most people appreciate that with Harry it’s half a dozen of him and six of the media. Most people wouldn’t even notice really and be positively overjoyed to see the children.
The biggest threat is Andrew. As long as he isn’t there we are all good. The Queen and the little ones is what most people will be excited about. And they are doing an amazing job of having the five oldest great grandchildren make appearances at the moment. A united family. That is what they seem intent on showing…minus two. But that can’t be helped.
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04-22-2022, 08:30 AM
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The Duke of Sussex on the final day of the Invictus Games in Den Haag today, April 22:
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05-01-2022, 03:25 PM
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Member TLLK forwarded the news that the Duchess of Sussex‘s "Pearl" project has been cancelled by Netfilx:
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05-02-2022, 06:05 AM
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It's nice to see him participating in normal recreational activities and even better with an old and loyal friend. I hope they had a blast, Harry was always passionate about Polo and has played at a professional level when he was a lot younger. I remember him saying a very long time ago that if he weren't a Prince he'd love to be a professional polo player.
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05-02-2022, 07:02 AM
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Netflix has canceled development of Pearl, an animated series created by Meghan Markle, in its move to cut costs.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-61294978
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05-02-2022, 08:03 AM
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It sucks for Pearl on Netflix but Netflix is going through somethings. They pulled Netflix from Russia & lost 70,000 subscribers. Along with the fact that their bussiness model isn't the best and a lot of companies are pulling their content so it'll be on their own streaming platforms.
And when a company wants to cut, animatin is the first to go because it requires so much money and takes so long to make (my favorite anime show one piece, a REALLY good episode takes about 6 months to produce) & their creative director for animation was let go along with their staff, with shows like Michelle's being canceled, hopefully this will help Netflix get on the right track.
That being said, at least Pearl is an Archewell Production so it can get picked up by a service that has the money and resources, they still got the signing bonus & we still have Heart of Invictus to look forward too! As well Archetypes for Spotify.
People were working on it, posted their goodbyes on twitter and seemed to have liked the project so crossing my fingers that it'll get picked up.
And POLO Harry, it's Harry I always love to see. It's so good to see him with Nacho, like a brother from another mother. I thought he didn't live in the states but apparently, he has a home here?
Their team won and Meghan was there to support Harry.
And course the DF would omit the part that was he invited by Nacho to the team to play polo for charity, which was this opening event.
Either way, it's good to see him happy and playing.
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