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03-14-2022, 11:23 AM
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From the photos/videos ive seen they dont seem to be carrying. Ive seen Jeff Bezos with his security and they dont carry and hes way more important than harry and meghan
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03-14-2022, 02:14 PM
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It has nothing to do with importance.. it is to do with the wishes of the client.. and hte needs of a situation. Harry is clearly very conscous about security and has been accustomed all his life to have armed men around him.. so I would imagine that in the US where guns are much more legal than they are here, he'd want his guards to carry them
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03-21-2022, 01:02 AM
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The Duke of Sussex virtually talked to Gulistan and Elizabeth Mirzaei, the directors of "Three Songs For Benazir". It’s a short documentary taking place at a refugee camp in Kabul, Afghanistan, and is nominated for an Oscar.
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Last week, we had the honor and privilege to speak with Prince Harry, The Duke of Sussex about our film THREE SONGS FOR BENAZIR. Prince Harry's love, and dedication to Afghanistan is truly inspiring and we are so grateful to have had the opportunity to share our story with him.
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03-23-2022, 03:01 PM
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The Duke of Sussex virtually talked to two staff members of The HALO Trust based in Ukraine:
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03-29-2022, 03:58 PM
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03-29-2022, 04:09 PM
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All I'll say is that it was nailed on the head when stated that Harry's lack of attendance at his grandfather's Service of Thanksgiving due to his fear of lack of security was a "pathetic excuse". That's on him and probably will come back to bite him in the back of the front in years to come. That's on him and him alone.
Notice it was only a short blip too in the interview about the service. That's really all it warranted.
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03-29-2022, 04:15 PM
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All I'll say is that it was nailed on the head when stated that Harry's lack of attendance at his grandfather's Service of Thanksgiving due to his fear of lack of security was a "pathetic excuse". That's on him and probably will come back to bite him in the back of the front in years to come. That's on him and him alone.
Notice it was only a short blip too in the interview about the service. That's really all it warranted.
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And stated by one of the duke of Edinburgh's former royal protection officers, so someone who knows what he is talking about.
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03-29-2022, 04:18 PM
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And it really was a pathetic excuse. And yes the protection officer does know what he is talking about. I honestly think Harry did not want to attend and so made up a whole lot of ado about nothing.
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03-29-2022, 04:29 PM
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TBH my heart broke a little today. I can't imagine a world where Harry circa 2015 and earlier would miss his beloved grandfather's service of thanksgiving. The man who protected him in Balmoral when Princess Diana died, who walked behind his mother's coffin with him... Who, from the accounts of all his grandchildren, was an amazing, loving grandfather with a wicked sense of humor.
Harry should've been there. Meghan should've been there too, but I don't think we'll see her in the UK ever again, she already said her goodbyes. But I think with time, Harry will realize what he did, and it will be one of the most painful memories of his life - though it will be too late at that point to fix his mistake. And if he doesn't, well, then I'll think he's truly too far gone for his relationship with his family recover in the future.
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03-29-2022, 04:35 PM
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The security excuse is pathetic given how many HEADS of STATE were in attendance security around this event would have been the tightest anywhere in the world. It was just an excuse to avoid his family.
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03-29-2022, 04:41 PM
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TBH my heart broke a little today. I can't imagine a world where Harry circa 2015 and earlier would miss his beloved grandfather's service of thanksgiving. The man who protected him in Balmoral when Princess Diana died, who walked behind his mother's coffin with him... Who, from the accounts of all his grandchildren, was an amazing, loving grandfather with a wicked sense of humor.
Harry should've been there. Meghan should've been there too, but I don't think we'll see her in the UK ever again, she already said her goodbyes. But I think with time, Harry will realize what he did, and it will be one of the most painful memories of his life - though it will be too late at that point to fix his mistake. And if he doesn't, well, then I'll think he's truly too far gone for his relationship with his family recover in the future.
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Bingo!! You have hit the mail on the head.
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03-29-2022, 04:54 PM
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Thank you wartenberg for sharing this clip. It was wonderful to hear from the DoE's former RPO and to listen to the stories about Prince Phillip's kindness and generosity to those who worked with and for him over the decades.
I did find it amusing when the RPO mentioned that everyone was digging out their old dark green striped ties to wear to today's service.  The ties had been designed by the DoE himself for the gentlemen in his household.
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03-29-2022, 04:55 PM
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The security excuse is pathetic given how many HEADS of STATE were in attendance security around this event would have been the tightest anywhere in the world. It was just an excuse to avoid his family.
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Seven heads of state & one prime minister I calculate. So fairly secure I would have thought.
I don't think you could have just walked in off the street.
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03-29-2022, 04:57 PM
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The security excuse is pathetic given how many HEADS of STATE were in attendance security around this event would have been the tightest anywhere in the world. It was just an excuse to avoid his family.
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I have to agree that his excuse did seem rather strange especially that there were so many Heads of State, high ranking members of government(s) as well as the British Royal Family in attendance. This was going to be a well-protected venue.
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03-29-2022, 05:04 PM
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I have to agree that his excuse did seem rather strange especially that there were so many Heads of State, high ranking members of government(s) as well as the British Royal Family in attendance. This was going to be a well-protected venue.
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Perhaps Harry felt threatened not by what could walk in off the street but felt very uncomfortable and insecure being among those were were *inside* the Abbey? The security detail excuse was just that. A pathetic excuse and I'm happy to see that it's not a story that seems to be making grand waves and blowing up the internet. He just didn't matter that much. I hope he realizes that.
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03-29-2022, 05:11 PM
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I think Harry made the right decision in the end. He would have been criticized by those who dislike him either way - if he goes, he's attention-seeking, unwanted, and only looking to get material for his next Netflix project. If he doesn't go, he's callous and hateful. I think he made the decision that came with the least amount of drama and kept the focus where it needed to be: on paying tribute to Prince Philip. I would guess (hope) that he took that into consideration when deciding whether or not to attend. I suspect security was not the only factor at play.
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03-29-2022, 05:13 PM
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IMO Harry really played himself with his demands. He can't now attend any social event in UK without looking like a fool. I can see the public being uderstanding if he was to attend a funeral, but anything less serious will be heavliy commented on.
Of course, I don't know if he even cares...
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03-29-2022, 05:19 PM
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Honestly, not seeing Harry there today made me incredibly sad. I genuinely miss him being an active and public member of the RF. I only hope his journey brings him to a place of love and peace.
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03-29-2022, 05:34 PM
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You didn't need to be a fortune teller to realize, when the story about Harry's security concerns broke, that the complaint was less substance and more a convenient cover shielding Harry and his family from attending a series of upcoming events that would have been very uncomfortable indeed for him-- while shifting his lack of attendance from a blight on him to making him seem the victim. If anyone actually still believed that Harry was going to waltz in the UK for events like the Jubilee- and there were posts suggesting he would, for example, make a Balcony appearance- those thoughts should surely have been put to rest. "I would have been there, but..."
If the story had not been leaked when it had, we can be in no doubt that it would have been revealed to us in the weeks leading up to Phillip's service, or else there would have been no way to explain Harry's absence. And it would have caused an even bigger splash, detracting from Phillip's service more than it did (which was very little).
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03-29-2022, 05:35 PM
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I think Harry made the right decision in the end. He would have been criticized by those who dislike him either way - if he goes, he's attention-seeking, unwanted, and only looking to get material for his next Netflix project. If he doesn't go, he's callous and hateful. I think he made the decision that came with the least amount of drama and kept the focus where it needed to be: on paying tribute to Prince Philip. I would guess (hope) that he took that into consideration when deciding whether or not to attend. I suspect security was not the only factor at play.
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This is perhaps the most well thought out post any of us have made on this subject that I've read. Even my own.
Welcome to TRF, Anna, good to see you here and posting.
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