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08-11-2021, 11:16 AM
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It appears H&M were considering leaving the UK as early as October 2018, around 5 months after their wedding.
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The only significant new information is that they were already considering a move out of the UK in 2018.
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I agree, it is the timing of this conversation that will led credibility to the notion that they really did not try very long after getting married before they started to look for options to leave the UK. This reported conversation took place 5 months after their wedding. It should also be noticed that, until then, the press narrative had largely been a very positive and supportive one.
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08-11-2021, 10:28 PM
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Yeah, I think it's the timing that matters here. I'd love for some Brits to chime in on this: could they reasonably have intended to remain as full-time royals while living in a Commonwealth country, perhaps with the intent of preserving the Commonwealth in the future? If they'd been so inclined, I think they could have done a lot to keep Australia and New Zealand "in the fold," so to speak, while being based there. Maybe if Australians and New Zealanders had their own royals who did things like hand out youth awards and open senior centers as a full-time job, instead of just popping in for a tour every few years, they'd attach more value to the monarchy and be more in favor of keeping it around. At least, I could understand the palace and Harry/Meghan thinking along those lines.
I'm trying to be fair and attribute good motives here if possible. But in combination with everything else, it does seem like they began planning their escape almost immediately after their marriage - before any offensive media coverage of the pregnancy (which was only announced just before the tour) or much of anything else, probably before any discussions with the family about Archie's skin color or security (they wouldn't have had time to set all this out between the pregnancy announcement and the tour), and without having "tried to make it work for two years," as they've previously claimed.
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08-11-2021, 11:06 PM
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Frankly, if anything, it lends credence to the people who were questioning their commitment pre-marriage to being fulltime royals based on the offhand comment they made in the Oprah interview about being uncertain for two years before they debuted their website. No one was quite sure when the two years began but it seems pretty clear that the discussions began pre-wedding. In retrospect, it's obvious that both the Australia/New Zealand trip in Oct 2018 and the South Africa trip in Sept 2019 were attempts by the BRF to keep the Sussexes in the fold and at least living in a Commonwealth nation.
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08-17-2021, 12:50 PM
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Prince Harry has issued a statement about veterans of the Afghanistan war:
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Prince Harry urges military veterans to 'support one another' amid Afghanistan crisis
The Duke of Sussex served in the Army for ten years
AUGUST 17, 2021 - 09:53 BST
DANIELLE STACEY
The Duke of Sussex has urged military veterans to "offer support for one another" amid the Taliban's takeover of Afghanistan.
Prince Harry, 36, issued a joint statement on Monday in his role as patron of the Invictus Games Foundation, which helps soldiers through their recovery via international sports competitions.
The Duke served in the Army for ten years, during which time he carried out two frontline tours of Afghanistan.
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Complete article here: https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalt...mpaign=1277539
Courtesy: Blog Real
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08-17-2021, 01:02 PM
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08-17-2021, 06:59 PM
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Let’s not forget Harry served two tours of duty in Afghanistan, and if anybody is entitled to speak out about the situation in Afghanistan and what has happened ref the Taliban takeover it is vets who served there. In his last tour he saw body bags and transported wounded and maimed.
Of course Harry is angry and distressed. A friend of mine, who saw a mate badly wounded over there is as well. Some of his fellow vets are saying it was all for nothing now and many of us ordinary folks who have never been to the region are thinking of the situation with the women and girls especially as well. Lots of people want to help.
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08-17-2021, 07:36 PM
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What amazes me is the fact that they obviously think the world was waiting anxiously for their opinion in the Afgan drama !
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08-17-2021, 07:55 PM
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Wow - all it took was 15 minutes for the thread to turn off-topic. Must be a record.
And with that, we have our first non-timed closure of this thread.
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09-02-2021, 01:36 PM
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Great to see Harry
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09-02-2021, 08:18 PM
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Wonderful to see Harry. He made IMO a well thought out speech, especially mentioning the inequality of supply around the world with regard to vaccines. As he said…
“That must include sharing vaccine science and supporting and empowering developing countries with more flexibility. Where you are born should not affect your ability to survive when the drugs and know-how exist to keep you alive and well.”
Heartfelt and well earned praise too for the entire team behind Oxford AstraZenaka, including of course the two women honoured, Professors Dame Sarah Gilbert and Catherine Green.
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09-15-2021, 09:16 AM
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The Duke and Duchess of Sussex are among the Time Magazine's 2021 list of the 100 most influential people and new portraits have been made for this:
** Pic 1 ** Pic 2 **
** time.com: Prince Harry and Meghan, The Duke and Duchess of Sussex **
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09-15-2021, 12:18 PM
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09-15-2021, 12:33 PM
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The accompanying article was lovely, focusing on HRH The Duke and Duchess of Sussex's long history of philanthropy, especially since it was written by one of their longtime friends and philanthropic associates, Chef Jose Andres. I love the pictures, especially the one with them walking hand-in-hand in the woods. They both look good in green. A nice birthday present for HRH The Duke of Sussex.
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09-15-2021, 12:48 PM
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I like that this is focused on the *both* of them as a couple. It's recognizing the philanthropic work that they both have done over the years and continue to do. It's a good way to keep in the public domain, the work they want to continue to do as a couple and as individuals. Can't fault that at all!
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09-15-2021, 12:49 PM
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The photo of them walking hand in hand is lovely but the other two pictures are overly photoshopped in my opinion.
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09-15-2021, 06:31 PM
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What exactly did they do in the matter of philanthropic work except talk about it ?
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09-15-2021, 06:39 PM
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What exactly did they do in the matter of philanthropic work except talk about it ?
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I'd like to believe that all the philanthropic work they did as working royals figured in along with individual work they've both done since reaching adulthood (perhaps even earlier too). A change in status, employment, residence and lifestyle would never erase any good works that have gone before
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09-15-2021, 08:34 PM
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A very nice birthday present for Harry especially as the Press has not always been so kind, to say the least. The photos were heavily photoshopped but that was hardly the couple’s fault, and IMO they clearly show how close and loving they are still after three and a half years of marriage and over five together.
Jose Andres wrote in the accompanying article about their philanthropy which he knows of first hand through their generous contributions to his charity work with World Central Kitchen in poorer nations suffering crisis situations.
https://www.marieclaire.com/celebrit...ntral-kitchen/
https://www.today.com/food/meghan-ma...itchen-t204423
https://wck.org/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI8...SAAEgKOCPD_BwE
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09-15-2021, 11:41 PM
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TIME usually has a big fancy publicized dinner to recognize the new 100. It would be cool if H and M went. We have not seen some formal glamour from her in a while.
Current and past "100 people" attend and things get pretty jolly. I've read that everyone wants a bit of facetime with Henry Kissinger!
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