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Old 04-23-2021, 05:03 PM
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The monarchy isn't "very popular". Its reasonably popular, and there's a certain sadness over PHilips death..
From this side of the pond the monarchy seems very popular, the pomp and the circumstance. All major networks kept a constant stream of the funeral, I don't know the statistics, but it seems the Americans in general were very tuned into it and then watched quite a few documentaries on the Duke of Edenborough's life, as well as Princess Alice's achievements. I noticed a big jump in the YouTube audience in those videos. Amazon prime also released more documentaries.
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Old 04-23-2021, 05:07 PM
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Perhaps we will see a Sussex vow renewal on the 29th for W & C’s 10th wedding anniversary.
Or they'll announce the birth plan / name / godparents / something else for the baby...
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Old 04-23-2021, 05:10 PM
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From this side of the pond the monarchy seems very popular, the pomp and the circumstance. All major networks kept a constant stream of the funeral, I don't know the statistics, but it seems the Americans in general were very tuned into it and then watched quite a few documentaries on the Duke of Edenborough's life, as well as Princess Alice's achievements. I noticed a big jump in the YouTube audience in those videos. Amazon prime also released more documentaries.
And lots of people don't pay the slightest heed to the whole thing. There were a lot of complaints about how much cover age there was of Philips death. Its much more that the system works reasonably well, and so people don't bother to think about changing it. But Harry and Meg are aiming at the American market.. and I tink tehy have fans there....
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Old 04-23-2021, 05:39 PM
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All that signifies to me that the Sussexes can only ride on the coat tails of the remaining members of the BRF to stay relevant. They have yet to show that they have anything of importance to be noticed in their own right.

I think they're trying too hard to show and prove that they're still "in" with the British Royal Family where the truth actually is that they're "out". As in left field in a land far, far away removed from anything of importance that the BRF and it's "Firm" does.
I agree...while in the meantime, BRF are moving on, taking steps to secure the Monarchy for the future.

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Perhaps we will see a Sussex vow renewal on the 29th for W & C’s 10th wedding anniversary.


The sad thing is, it wouldn’t shock me
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Old 04-23-2021, 05:50 PM
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Louis' birthday isn't that big an event, and is probalby only noticed by royal fans.. but it seems odd to me that they suddenly have a photo appear, just like they published that photo in November of themselves in a miltiary cemetery....


I agree. Louis’ birthday isn’t a big event. (For him and his family it sure is! But the public- not really.) And neither is a photo of Archie. I wouldn’t be aware of either if I wasn’t on this forum.

I just find the timing odd, to say the least. 2 little boys who are rarely photographed/seen in public-have photos out on the same day. Which does seem to be following a pattern.

As to why the Sussexes would bother- if you think most people wouldn’t notice anyway- sometimes people do things strictly to get the attention of or annoy someone they’re angry with. Petty, yes. But...there seems to be a lot of that....it’s one thought anyway.

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And lots of people don't pay the slightest heed to the whole thing. There were a lot of complaints about how much cover age there was of Philips death. Its much more that the system works reasonably well, and so people don't bother to think about changing it. But Harry and Meg are aiming at the American market.. and I tink tehy have fans there....


I think you are right: the key is the system works well enough that there’s no burning desire to take the time to change it.

I think Harry and Meghan are more popular in the US than the UK at this point. I also don’t think that’s saying a whole lot. Most people here don’t really care.
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Old 04-23-2021, 05:57 PM
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I don't feel that a picture of Archie takes anything away from Louis's birthday. I also don't think William and Catherine will care if Meghan and Harry get headlines on their anniversary, it's not like they were planning a public celebration.
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Old 04-23-2021, 05:57 PM
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I agree. Louis’ birthday isn’t a big event. (For him and his family it sure is! But the public- not really.) And neither is a photo of Archie. I wouldn’t be aware of either if I wasn’t on this forum.

I just find the timing odd, to say the least. 2 little boys who are rarely photographed/seen in public-have photos out on the same day. Which does seem to be following a pattern.

As to why the Sussexes would bother- if you think most people wouldn’t notice anyway- sometimes people do things strictly to get the attention of or annoy someone they’re angry with. Petty, yes. But...there seems to be a lot of that....it’s one thought anyway.
Why wouldn't they bother, though? They bothered with literally the stupidest tabloid story, aka who made who cry. They didn't deal with the stories about Meghan bullying her staff, the stories about the baby shower or something.
Honestly, I can't see what this pattern might be aiming at but I've noticed the pattern and this picture fits it. In fact, it might be them realizing that it might be impossible to garner any significant chunk of attention over a big event like Catherine and William's 10th anniversary. Louis' birthday might be lesser on this scale but by this same scale, it's easier to be noticed at.
But once again, I can't see any purpose to this series of releases on RF's big days as a whole. It just points that "we're still royal, look at us" thing and nothing more. It fits with their constant comparisons between themselves and William and Catherine but nothing more.
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Old 04-23-2021, 06:00 PM
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The picture of Louis was on the headline page of the BBC website and the front pages of a lot of the papers, and was mentioned in all the news bulletins - not particularly because anyone thought his birthday was a big deal, just because it's nice to see pictures of a cute little boy with a bike and a big smile. It's become a standard thing to release photos of each of the Cambridge children on their birthdays.


I would love to think that even Harry and Meghan aren't petty enough to try to play PR games over a three-year-old's birthday, but, given their obsession with suing people, I'd have expected them to complain if the photo of Meghan and Archie hadn't been authorised.
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Old 04-23-2021, 06:01 PM
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Or they'll announce the birth plan / name / godparents / something else for the baby...
My crystal ball predicts that there'll be an elaborate gift for the Cambridge couple and an extensive report on its meaning that went along with a beautifully handwritten note by Meghan expressing her abiding love for her dear brother-in-law and his wonderful wife. The "leak" will also show the picture we've just seen of Archie again as that is what Meghan and Archie were doing while Harry was at lunch. Shopping for the wonderful occasion of the Cambridges' 10th wedding anniversary.

Also... there will be leaks from the British side of the pond where it's will be revealed that the anniversary gift package had to be OK'ed by police dogs and scanned with x-rays to assure that it was "safe" for delivery to the couple themselves.
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Old 04-23-2021, 06:06 PM
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Or maybe... the very Murdoch paper posted the image knowing it would predictably rile people up. They are no fans of Meghan. I mean honestly the conspiracy theories over this is so over the top its comical.

Louis picture was adorable but Meghan way in LA isn't going to "overshadow" him. And if you think that then that is a different issue...
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Old 04-23-2021, 06:16 PM
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I agree but the question is who is authorizing the leaks. Are the leaks being authorized by Meghan and Harry? Are the palace leaks being authorized by a member of the royal family? Both sides likely have friends and staff who are providing information without authorization and there is very little control. We also know that the media sometimes invents sources.



I am reasonably sure that the royal family has not authorized leaks over the last few weeks. At the same time, I am sure that many of the leaks that we have seen from the Sussex side were authorized (the calls to the Queen and the details about the wreath). I tend to think that if Omid reports something, (ie, such as Harry didn't write a letter) he has authorization from the Sussexes based on his previous experience and relationships with them.


This all makes a lot of sense to me.

What the Sussexes may have personally authorized doesn’t make me think too highly of them.
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Old 04-23-2021, 06:29 PM
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Eh, I'm not so sure we'll see something the day before or day of the Cambridges 10th wedding anniversary. Not when Charlotte's birthday is a few days later. We'll see some Archie stuff again then.
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Old 04-23-2021, 06:47 PM
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All that signifies to me that the Sussexes can only ride on the coat tails of the remaining members of the BRF to stay relevant. They have yet to show that they have anything of importance to be noticed in their own right.

I think they're trying too hard to show and prove that they're still "in" with the British Royal Family where the truth actually is that they're "out". As in left field in a land far, far away removed from anything of importance that the BRF and it's "Firm" does.
I really share your opinion !
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Old 04-23-2021, 07:00 PM
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I’ll be interested to see what happens when Harry comes to the UK for the Diana statue. I’m sure he and William will be civil and maybe pleasant, but will they spend time together outside that ceremony? Will Harry and Charles meet up ? That will be telling
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Old 04-23-2021, 08:22 PM
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Only, the Sussexes haven't really taken the focus off of Louis's birthday. The only place that I have seen the Archie photos even being discussing is here at TRF.

So IF that was the intention (I am not truly convinced that it was tbh) Meghan and Harry have badly miscalculated. Again.
This. I don’t see Archie’s photo story anywhere in mainstream US media. I saw articles about Louis and his birthday pic though.
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Old 04-23-2021, 08:50 PM
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I’ve deleted a number of comments. Please move on from speculating about whether Meghan was trying to overshadow Louis' birthday.

Posts claiming the William wasn’t nice to Meghan, have been deleted as speculation.

I know this was touched on in the Oprah interview, but I’ve deleted comments comparing the media treatment that Meghan and Kate each received. It’s not a contest. It can be true that they both received unfair treatment by the media. There is no need to pit one woman against the other and speculating about who had it worse, only serves to diminish each woman’s experiences.

And on another note, there has been a lot of back and forth bickering about the Oprah interview. Please remember that not everyone is going to view, or interpret the interview in the same way. Some may have a favorable view, while others may have an unfavorable view. Recognizing that other members see things differently, will go a long way in cutting down on the back and forth arguments about which view is right.
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Old 04-23-2021, 09:34 PM
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Oprah’s views on the interview

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...interview.html
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Old 04-23-2021, 10:05 PM
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Just more of the same...she’s pushing Harry and Meghan’s truth...
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Old 04-24-2021, 06:02 AM
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I wonder if this picture was taken earlier this spring? The weather in California is in the 60’s and 70’s - a bit warm for hats, sweatshirts and coats.
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Old 04-24-2021, 07:06 AM
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Backtracking a bit to the "closing the lines of communication" discussion, I just had another thought about WreathGate. Is it possible that Meghan sincerely wanted the family to know how much thought she'd put into the wreath, and just didn't see a better way of conveying that information? Because let's be real, if Charles isn't taking Harry's calls, the Queen certainly isn't taking Meghan's. Accepting a brief conversation to convey condolences is one thing; picking up whenever Meghan happens to ring is another. And if I were Harry and was trying to forge some sort of peace with my relatives, "Let me tell you all about Meghan's wreath" isn't what I'd have led with.

I don't think the notion that they 'had' to tell Oprah all about their experiences because they had no other way of communicating about those experiences to Harry's family makes sense for anything discussed in that interview, because all of it was ancient history by the time they talked about it. But the wreath was relevant to their current events, and I can see how Meghan would have wanted them to know what was involved while they still had the chance to see it. Still terrible judgment all around, but I can see it making sense in her head if she couldn't just call them up.
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