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Old 04-18-2021, 10:21 AM
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It'd be quite nice if he could see the children before he went. They must wonder why Uncle Harry's disappeared from their lives, assuming they haven't even been doing Zoom calls.
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Old 04-18-2021, 10:23 AM
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Not sure if the details were revealed. It doesn't take a genius to identify flowers. If they ID the right flowers. It wouldn't be the first time a big hoopla was made over information that turned out to be false!
The information was released by The Telegraph:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-fa...l-handwritten/
And they mentioned it comes from "source close to the Sussexes".

The Telegraph is not a tabloid. They check their stories and check their sources, so if they claim that this information was relayed to them by a someone close to the Sussexes, I can't see them lying about it. It's not Daily Mail.
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Old 04-18-2021, 10:51 AM
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It'd be quite nice if he could see the children before he went. They must wonder why Uncle Harry's disappeared from their lives, assuming they haven't even been doing Zoom calls.
Accordig ot the Corden interview they were in touch with teh queen adn Philip at least...
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Old 04-18-2021, 11:05 AM
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It'd be quite nice if he could see the children before he went. They must wonder why Uncle Harry's disappeared from their lives, assuming they haven't even been doing Zoom calls.
Unfortunately, family rifts have far reaching effects. It would be nice if Harry were in touch with the children, but there was probably a gradual withdrawal from their lives when he married Meghan - especially after he and Meghan moved to Frogmore.
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Old 04-18-2021, 12:40 PM
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Well, I think we can be sure now that Harry and Meghan’s camp definitely released those details. Scobie has now spoken about it and confirmed it.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...obie-says.html
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Old 04-18-2021, 12:50 PM
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I really just wish they would go away .. after that horrific interview I found his presence at the Prince Philips funeral offensive ... he maybe. as some say "family"but I think he has played his hand and they both are a disgrace IMO
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Old 04-18-2021, 01:08 PM
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Well, I think we can be sure now that Harry and Meghan’s camp definitely released those details. Scobie has now spoken about it and confirmed it.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...obie-says.html
Good grief, was this really necessary ? “Did her bit” ? It’s like she feels she had to prove something....sigh
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Old 04-18-2021, 01:13 PM
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Well, I think we can be sure now that Harry and Meghan’s camp definitely released those details. Scobie has now spoken about it and confirmed it.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...obie-says.html
This is a link to Omid's podcast, the discussion of the wreath starts around 44:30. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas...=1000517569536

Because she wasn't there in person, I can understand why Meghan would want the family to know the amount of love, thought and effort she made but announcing why is it so important that she share it with the world yesterday? Weren't leaks like this the reason she cut off her father?
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Old 04-18-2021, 01:20 PM
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I´m not sure if all members of this family care about what The Queen or the late Duke wanted...! Otherwise things like leaving roles as senior Royals without consulting her and other gaffes in the past would never had happened. At some point I wondered how much influence or authority The Queen had at all in this family..?! I think the idea of "HM is not amused" everybody obeying the sovereign is a myth these days...
I'd like to think that the members of the royal family are able to compartmentalize things. The ability to differentiate between Elizabeth as their monarch and as their mother and grandmother. Harry's talked about this before where he's even stated that the Queen is more the "boss" than he sees her as a grandmother.

When it came to the funeral, they all may have realized that whatever hurt, whatever bad feelings and whatever repercussions happened were due to the "working" side of things and that saying farewell to the patriarch of the family has no relation to the "Firm" side of things. They were all there for Philip and they all experienced a deep loss

When it came down to the family side of things, it was Philip that had the influence and the authority and even the Queen deferred to him in family matters. He was the proverbial head of the household. It definitely was a day where everyone saw Elizabeth as "Mama" "Granny" and "Aunt Lilibet" rather than HM, The Queen.

We may never know what the family feels about each other but what we saw walking back from St. George's Chapel to the castle was two brothers that were able to talk to each other comfortably for a short amount of time. It may only show that the situation has been accepted. It may only show that they were putting on a act. It may only show that there's a possibility for healing rifts but the key word here is *may*. If Harry is in any way wise, he'd keep things to himself rather than have Scobie give all the details as soon as he hits US soil again.
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Old 04-18-2021, 01:26 PM
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Sigh. The Duchesses of Kent and Gloucester among many others weren't able to be their either and have known him much longer than Meghan. I'm sure they "did their bit" in private and didn't feel the need to tell the world.

A month ago the family was being told "this is it" and they still went ahead and did the interview (filmed whilst he was in hospital) and the aftermath. Now her friends are telling the world how much she truly loved him. It's all much too much over the top.

Again, a lovely tribute and she's in a difficult position but it's also one of their own making.
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Old 04-18-2021, 01:35 PM
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Unfortunately, family rifts have far reaching effects. It would be nice if Harry were in touch with the children, but there was probably a gradual withdrawal from their lives when he married Meghan - especially after he and Meghan moved to Frogmore.
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The information was released by The Telegraph:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-fa...l-handwritten/
And they mentioned it comes from "source close to the Sussexes".

The Telegraph is not a tabloid. They check their stories and check their sources, so if they claim that this information was relayed to them by a someone close to the Sussexes, I can't see them lying about it. It's not Daily Mail.
Ok. I stand corrected
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It is sad but for some reason Meghan needs the world to know that she was involved, why does every event have to be about Meghan, it would appear that she isn't happy with the Queen and the family knowing that they sent flowers and put a great deal of thought in to them.
Is she trying to give the impression to the public that all is well within the family, she has decided to forgive them and has sent lovely thoughtful flowers so everything is alright now.
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Old 04-18-2021, 02:03 PM
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Did Harry leave for LA or will he stay for his granny's birthday?
The Daily Mail is reporting Harry will fly back to LA tomorrow:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ces-claim.html
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It is sad but for some reason Meghan needs the world to know that she was involved, why does every event have to be about Meghan, it would appear that she isn't happy with the Queen and the family knowing that they sent flowers and put a great deal of thought in to them.
Is she trying to give the impression to the public that all is well within the family, she has decided to forgive them and has sent lovely thoughtful flowers so everything is alright now.
To be honest, I believe that the Queen would have felt more comfort from the wreath from "Daisy" rather than the hand written note from Meghan. Those that were/are close to the family don't feel the need to publicize their condolences for any reason because they're for the family alone.

This is what makes the Sussex PR team releasing the information reek of it being done to generate publicity rather than done to actually console the family. For me, it's kind of a "so what" kind of story. Doesn't impress me in the least.
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Old 04-18-2021, 02:05 PM
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I'd like to think that the members of the royal family are able to compartmentalize things. The ability to differentiate between Elizabeth as their monarch and as their mother and grandmother. Harry's talked about this before where he's even stated that the Queen is more the "boss" than he sees her as a grandmother.



When it came to the funeral, they all may have realized that whatever hurt, whatever bad feelings and whatever repercussions happened were due to the "working" side of things and that saying farewell to the patriarch of the family has no relation to the "Firm" side of things. They were all there for Philip and they all experienced a deep loss



When it came down to the family side of things, it was Philip that had the influence and the authority and even the Queen deferred to him in family matters. He was the proverbial head of the household. It definitely was a day where everyone saw Elizabeth as "Mama" "Granny" and "Aunt Lilibet" rather than HM, The Queen.



We may never know what the family feels about each other but what we saw walking back from St. George's Chapel to the castle was two brothers that were able to talk to each other comfortably for a short amount of time. It may only show that the situation has been accepted. It may only show that they were putting on a act. It may only show that there's a possibility for healing rifts but the key word here is *may*. If Harry is in any way wise, he'd keep things to himself rather than have Scobie give all the details as soon as he hits US soil again.


I suspect the family does know how to compartmentalize. HM vs Grandma. Family vs Family business.

However- I disagree that all the issues are with the working side. It may have started that way, but it isn’t now. Here’s one example: Harry and Meghan didn’t restrict themselves to complaining about the family business. That racism comment was personal. It was from a personal conversation. It was made public. And when they made it they dragged EVERYONE into it. Everyone. People’s kids had to go to school after that. Think of Louise and James. The Philips girls. It was personal. Worse- Philip and HM were dragged into it until Harry clarified....after the fact. That wasn’t business.

I do agree that if Harry was wise, he’d keep quiet. But someone.... I guess Meghan seeing as floral details would be more up her alley....has already felt the public needed to know the thought put into the flower arrangement. I understand if she wanted the family to know. I don’t see how that translates to telling the world the day of the funeral. She drew attention to herself IMO. She seems to have a need for the public to sympathize with her and see how wonderful she is. I feel like it takes some of the true thoughtfulness out of a thoughtful gesture when you inform the world of your thoughtfulness. What was the purpose behind the gesture?
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Old 04-18-2021, 02:06 PM
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Good grief, was this really necessary ? “Did her bit” ? It’s like she feels she had to prove something....sigh
Everyone is making money off them, shame. Omid is very annoying, with his "Prince Harry" and the "The Cambridges", why would he not call them Prince William and Duchess of Cambridge? This is so disrespectful. It's on his podcast.
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Once again it's about Meaghan.
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Old 04-18-2021, 02:22 PM
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The Daily Mail is reporting Harry will fly back to LA tomorrow:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ces-claim.html
I’m glad he and his pa will have a chance to bond and view the floral tributes to the man they loved so much..
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Old 04-18-2021, 02:25 PM
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Everyone is making money off them, shame. Omid is very annoying, with his "Prince Harry" and the "The Cambridges", why not would he not call them Prince William and Duchess of Cambridge? This is so disrespectful. It's on his podcast.
The propaganda couldn't have been more obvious.
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Old 04-18-2021, 02:32 PM
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I suspect the family does know how to compartmentalize. HM vs Grandma. Family vs Family business.

However- I disagree that all the issues are with the working side. It may have started that way, but it isn’t now. Here’s one example: Harry and Meghan didn’t restrict themselves to complaining about the family business. That racism comment was personal. It was from a personal conversation. It was made public. And when they made it they dragged EVERYONE into it. Everyone. People’s kids had to go to school after that. Think of Louise and James. The Philips girls. It was personal. Worse- Philip and HM were dragged into it until Harry clarified....after the fact. That wasn’t business.

I do agree that if Harry was wise, he’d keep quiet. But someone.... I guess Meghan seeing as floral details would be more up her alley....has already felt the public needed to know the thought put into the flower arrangement. I understand if she wanted the family to know. I don’t see how that translates to telling the world the day of the funeral. She drew attention to herself IMO. She seems to have a need for the public to sympathize with her and see how wonderful she is. I feel like it takes some of the true thoughtfulness out of a thoughtful gesture when you inform the world of your thoughtfulness. What was the purpose behind the gesture?
Worst of all was the implication that they were referring to Charles and William being racist. I don’t know that they meant that as I’m sure Harry at least knows it’s not true, but by saying HM and Philip weren’t the ones, everyone assumed it was either his father or brother. Then the fact that he doesn’t think his father supports him - it’s just like when Charles did the Dimbleby interview; his parents were deeply hurt. I do believe they’ll overcome this, but nonetheless, it’s very personal.

I agree with your last point. I think she was probably being sincere in her gestures, but there’s no need to point it out...unless she felt a need to prove that she cares because she doesn’t want people to think she doesn’t.
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