I think this illustrates the disagreement that so many of us are having on the board. if the royal family should defend Meghan and Harry against attacks made by the tabloids, shouldn't Meghan and Harry defend the royal family against attacks made by her friends.
I don't think Meghan and Harry be held responsible for what their supporters say but from what I can see, the attacks are not one way.
Her co-workers would very much know what she is like to work around.
Being a full time working actress, working long hours on set as well as her blog and charity work would have been far more stressful then being a royal. She had people working doing her make up hair and other jobs for her when she was on set. They would certainly know better then most how she would handle a high stress situation at work.
But of all course all former employers are never disgruntled. Never think their poop smelled like heaven and they didn't get enough credit for their work.
Her co-workers would very much know what she is like to work around.
Being a full time working actress, working long hours on set as well as her blog and charity work would have been far more stressful then being a royal. She had people working doing her make up hair and other jobs for her when she was on set. They would certainly know better then most how she would handle a high stress situation at work.
But of all course all former employers are never disgruntled. Never think their poop smelled like heaven and they didn't get enough credit for their work.
This is all so unpleasant and undignified.
OK, social media is a fairly new thing, and maybe Anne Boleyn's friends would have been sniping about Catherine of Aragon all over social media if it'd been around then, and Wallis Simpson's friends would have been saying all sorts if it'd been around then, but nothing like this has ever happened before. "Sussex Squad" fan clubs sniping at William and Kate, as if they were a rival football team. Meghan's ex-colleagues saying that the Queen isn't "in the same league" as Meghan. Meghan saying that Kate didn't look after her, as if she was the new kid at school and expected another kid to get her in with the in crowd.
It's just embarrassing. And it's very sad. As Sionevar said, it's just a mess. How do you put an end to this now?
You cut out the poison so you can create something new in its place and continue on.
And I mean that for both sides.
I am appalled at the regurgitation of year old spite and malice coming from the palace supposedly pre-empting the Oprah interview.
I have now lost ALL respect for the Firm having announced their HR department will be investigating Meghan bullying staff on the strength of these anonymous victims pitiful tales leaked and printed in the media. Hell, The Times even published an accusation from one of these shrinking violets that Meghan was deliberately unkind as part of her master plan to have she and Harry appear forced to leave. Really?
Harry and Meghan have no control over out of context clips released as publicity by Harpo Productions and said nohing until the palace decided to leak like a sieve and then announce they will investigate mean Meghan.
The way I see it, the Oprah interview cannot possibly be worse than "Malice at the Palace".
When one gets rid of toxic garbage in their home, they put it by the curb to be picked up by garbage trucks. Once it's gone, it's gone. Have you ever in your life seen anyone chasing after a garbage truck wanting their garbage back?
Until the past is thoroughly filed away in an ancient history file and all parties move on (including the middle man players of social media and the press), the toxic garbage will continue to smell up the place more and more.
Issues surrounding the employer/employee situation at the palaces should remain an internal affair to be dealt with internally whatever they decide on. The court of public opinion has no bearing on the outcome of any of this mess. ?
Patrick Adam's tweet is interesting - if he is still in contact with Meghan does this suggest the true feelings of Meghan? Either way it rather undermines the effort to focus criticism on the staff rather than the family themselves.
What I find interesting in this is how Meghan and Harry have spoken out via Finding Freedom - which the authors noted the couple themselves had contributed to - and which at the very least they allowed friends to speak for, now an Oprah interview as well as a James Corden chat, but once people who have worked with them speak out its so horrendous and so awful. It is also interesting that when H&M friends speak out it is never with their permission, never their fault but when staff and sources around the Household do its the Household and RF's fault directly. There are two sides to every story and just because the other side's story doesn't fit the narrative H& want (nor their fans) doesn't mean it isn't true. If you are going to speak out about your experiences, those who were there with you are just as entitled to speak out about their experiences too IMO.
I can't wait for the interview to be broadcast simply so we can get over this ridiculous period, it isn't making anyone look good and it9 just getting people angry and frustrated at each other. I hope both sides go away and think about a better way forward that creates less division.
Oh wow. There's a lot of... claiming things here.I am appalled at the regurgitation of year old spite and malice coming from the palace supposedly pre-empting the Oprah interview.
I have now lost ALL respect for the Firm having announced their HR department will be investigating Meghan bullying staff on the strength of these anonymous victims pitiful tales leaked and printed in the media. Hell, The Times even published an accusation from one of these shrinking violets that Meghan was deliberately unkind as part of her master plan to have she and Harry appear forced to leave. Really?
Harry and Meghan have no control over out of context clips released as publicity by Harpo Productions and said nohing until the palace decided to leak like a sieve and then announce they will investigate mean Meghan.
The way I see it, the Oprah interview cannot possibly be worse than "Malice at the Palace".
It's not those doing Meghan's hair who are coming out to her defense it's her co-actors and other people either on the same level or above her. We don't know what lower members of the glam squad, lightning assistants or interns has to say about her (if we do please share). There's also the possibility that Meghan was a delight on the set of Suits which is an environment that she's comfortable in and that the stress of finding herself in a completely new environment made her unstable and had her lashing out at people. It could happen to the best of us.Her co-workers would very much know what she is like to work around.
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She had people working doing her make up hair and other jobs for her when she was on set.
The inquiry really has very little to do with Meghan. It's an internal inquiry looking into the failure of the palace HR department and it's guidelines in this case. As an active union member I applaud the people involved for coming forward. Hopefully the inquiry ends up dealing with the problems that caused these problems.[...] I have now lost ALL respect for the Firm having announced their HR department will be investigating Meghan bullying staff on the strength of these anonymous victims pitiful tales leaked and printed in the media.
It's interesting that Meghan, self-proclaimed feminist and supporter of women, is accused of bullying 3 female staff members and seems to place blame on Catherine and Camilla,
Wait what ?
I've seen the Catherine part but i didn't know she was blaming Camilla as well !
I suspect the kind of help Meghan wanted from Catherine may have been support of Meghan's own ideas and wishes.
What a terrible, awful mess this whole situation is.
The one thing I just can't understand - what does Harry think this interview is going to achieve re: his relationship with his brother, father and grandmother? Does he somehow think it's going to improve the situation, and not cause potentially irreparable damage?
I don't doubt that he loves his family back in the UK, and that they love him, but I'll be amazed if he comes through this interview with all his relationship bridges still intact...
Her co-workers would very much know what she is like to work around.
Being a full time working actress, working long hours on set as well as her blog and charity work would have been far more stressful then being a royal. She had people working doing her make up hair and other jobs for her when she was on set. They would certainly know better then most how she would handle a high stress situation at work.
But of all course all former employers are never disgruntled. Never think their poop smelled like heaven and they didn't get enough credit for their work.
Doria Ragland hasn't said a word in all of this yah-boo-sucks name-calling. What a classy, dignified woman she is.
What a shame that Meghan hasn't followed her example.
I agree with you and I would even include of some modern feminists to the mix who slags off Catherine for not having a career before her marriage and being "submissive" to the archaic sexist monarchy by simply following protocol.
The aim of that interview is not repairing relationships with the BRF but about bolstering their brand in the United States with its market of 330 million Americans and the highly lucrative opportunities that await in their new home. It is their big introduction to America as well as their give-The-Firm-the-finger goodbye to Britain.
This is all so unpleasant and undignified.
OK, social media is a fairly new thing, and maybe Anne Boleyn's friends would have been sniping about Catherine of Aragon all over social media if it'd been around then, and Wallis Simpson's friends would have been saying all sorts if it'd been around then, but nothing like this has ever happened before. "Sussex Squad" fan clubs sniping at William and Kate, as if they were a rival football team. Meghan's ex-colleagues saying that the Queen isn't "in the same league" as Meghan. Meghan saying that Kate didn't look after her, as if she was the new kid at school and expected another kid to get her in with the in crowd.
It's just embarrassing. And it's very sad. As Sionevar said, it's just a mess. How do you put an end to this now?
It's interesting that Meghan, self-proclaimed feminist and supporter of women, is accused of bullying 3 female staff members and seems to place blame on Catherine and Camilla, two female members of the BRF in the Oprah interview. Did she treat the male staff differently and why have we not heard her complaining about male members of the BRF (yet)?
It seems that she expected more help from Catherine. But what kind of help? It is rather obvious that Meghan does not like advice that doesn't align with her own ideas and opinions. And Catherine may not be the kind of person, who keeps giving unsolicited advice to someone who is not interested.
I suspect the kind of help Meghan wanted from Catherine may have been support of Meghan's own ideas and wishes, many of which did not fit with royal life. Now part of the interview appears to be (let's see about that!) an attack on Catherine, who Meghan knows cannot and will not respond, because she does adhere to BRF rules. So is Meghan, who has got a public voice to say whatever she pleases now, as she likes to stress, verbally attacking a woman, who can't answer back because she remains a diplomat and future Queen?
Hold your horses on that, I came across a video on twitter from a podcast that interviewed four royal reporters/commentators (two of them were the Arbiter's and the editor of "Majesty" Ingrid Seward, plus some old guy I am not familiar with, and William name was brought up, so I think she may be discussing him in the interview.
I don't know if this belongs here, if not I am sure the MODS will move it. A while back there was an article in the paper I read it on TRF. Harry and Meghan went somewhere there was a fan a young girl who really wanted to meet Meghan it also was the girls 13th or 14th Birthday. The article read she was ignored by Meghan and she got a rude answer, like do you know who I am and Meghan just walked off. If the Bulling stories are true then this one maybe as well. What I want to say with this is, if she wants to be as perfect as she is trying to tell people that she is in her own opinion don't do this to anyone especially children. Maybe someone else remember this story in the paper and read it.