The Duke and Duchess of Sussex and Family, News and Events 1: September-December 2020

[evolvingdoors]

Can anyone who listens to Spotify confirm something:
I saw a tweet that they apperantly have some pretty tyrannical policies to podcasters and that they are known to shut down podcasts with no warning and sometimes without even a clear justified reason?


I tried google but maybe i'm using the wrong search phrase.

If this is true than this can be tricky for H&M (depending on what their contract says. I mean company policies change, and can be affected based on the CEO and board of directors. What happens if they have enough controversial guests (even if they don't see it that way).

 

[acdc1]

Can anyone who listens to Spotify confirm something:
I saw a tweet that they apperantly have some pretty tyrannical policies to podcasters and that they are known to shut down podcasts with no warning and sometimes without even a clear justified reason?


I tried google but maybe i'm using the wrong search phrase.

If this is true than this can be tricky for H&M (depending on what their contract says. I mean company policies change, and can be affected based on the CEO and board of directors. What happens if they have enough controversial guests (even if they don't see it that way).

Spotify is known to remove episodes or totally shutdown podcasts that are beyond "controversial" and promotes or advocates for violence against others. This would be things like the QAnon movement. I don't think that Harry and Meghan have anything to worry about.

 

[adjovie]

…Meghan at the center of more Twitter conversations than any other royal!

According to official data by Twitter, Inc., the social media platform with more than 330 million active monthly users in over 180 countries…

Duchess Meghan and Prince Harry Are the Most Tweeted-About Royals in 2020!

1. Meghan
2. Harry
3. The Queen
4. Diana
5. Charles
6. …
7. William
8. Kate

"The data shared exclusively with BAZAAR sees Meghan and Harry taking the top two spots by a landslide. The duchess’s newly found freedom, steady stream of meaningful appearances, and candid conversations, including her emotional New York Times essay last month on losing a baby, saw Meghan at the center of more Twitter conversations than any other royal."

https://www.harpersbazaar.com/celeb...e-prince-harry-most-tweeted-about-royals-2020
'There's no such thing as bad publicity!'
…looking forward to 2021

 

[Lee-Z]

why did you leave out that P.Andrew is in sixth

by the way, I don't think he'd agree with "no such thing as bad punlicity"

 

[Curryong]

Prince Andrew's situation is a million miles away from that of Harry and Meghan.

As for the Sussexes' being discussed so much on Twitter, that has its pros and cons, of course. However, so much for the assertions that they would fade away out of the limelight and be no longer talked about or thought about once they left the BRF!

 

[adjovie]

"There's no such thing as bad publicity"

It's a famous saying in show biz which, "states 'any publicity is good publicity' or 'there's no such thing as bad publicity. 'It's said to emphasize that it is better that something receives bad publicity than no publicity at all."

As it pertains to Harry and Meghan (but specifically Meghan), I only emphasized it because I already know there are some who will harp on the fact that although Meghan is the most tweeted about royal in 2020, not all of it is good etc., etc,…so I thought to cover all bases

 

[ACO]

Businesses don't care about love or hate. They only care if you are invested. The fact that Meghan and Harry create so many reactions from people is exactly why the likes of Netflix and Spotify signed them. People talk about them nonstop whether to praise or criticize.

 

[QueenMathilde]

Of course it depends. The USA is a vast place. YOu can't really generalise about such a huge population with a lot of different cultures within its borders.
But I think that of the people who DO take an interest (A minority) they seem to be more likely to think well of Harry and Meghan.. just as a lot of Americans who follow royalty prefer Diana to Charles and the BRF as a whole. They see H and Meg breaking out of what they think of as a "toxic" environment which stifled them and told them what to do.. and prevented them from making money as they wanted and leading their own lives. H and Meg did what Diana could/did not do... and moved ot the US to lead their own lives...
Of course some Americans who do follow the RF will be critical of them, see them as spoiled or silly. I think a lot of Americans who followed the story were taken aback about their using their visit to a military cemetery to garner them some notice.. so obviously not all Americans will like them.. but having said that it seems that the media there are quite favourable to them.. such as Gloria Steinem interviewing Meg and welcoming her back to the US..

I didn't generalize. They edited my comment. But I liked Harry and Meghan when they got married - I didn't like them as much when they left though I think Harry wanted to leave not Meghan. But I'll wait and see - I might end up loving them.

 

[evolvingdoors]

According to official data by Twitter, Inc., the social media platform with more than 330 million active monthly users in over 180 countries…

Duchess Meghan and Prince Harry Are the Most Tweeted-About Royals in 2020!

1. Meghan
2. Harry
3. The Queen
4. Diana
5. Charles
6. …
7. William
8. Kate

"The data shared exclusively with BAZAAR sees Meghan and Harry taking the top two spots by a landslide. The duchess’s newly found freedom, steady stream of meaningful appearances, and candid conversations, including her emotional New York Times essay last month on losing a baby, saw Meghan at the center of more Twitter conversations than any other royal."

Meghan and Harry Are the Most Tweeted-About Royals in 2020

Twitter data provided exclusively to BAZAAR.com reveals that more than 20 million tweets were made about the British royal family this year, with the Sussexes and the queen taking the top three spots on the official list.

www.harpersbazaar.com

'There's no such thing as bad publicity!'

…looking forward to 2021

mmmm What are Trump and his brood numbers? Biden? Obamas? Boris Johnson?

Let me the one to say the obvious: people who cause controversy (which they do) and are divisive (which they are) and who misbehave by behaving like two toddlers having a tantrum... would always garner more attention and interest than those who behave. - you can literally see this on school grounds and if you know any parents they would be able to tell you this happens with their kids. Hack look at Harry and William in their 20's.. how much publicity Harry got for his misbehaviors and racist behavior, vs. how much William, who was fairly low key, did.


In fact I would say there is such a thing as bad publicity, the Sussexes behavior proves this, many who supported them prior to the SA tour, the Jan disaster and FF, have turned away from them because of it.

 

[Jacknch]

Let's move on from statistical analysis of social media platforms and get back to the topic of the thread - thank you.

 

[Sandy345]

I don't see them as bad people. I hope they succeed. I'd like to see them given a chance. My take on it. At least they don't live off trust funds and idle about.

 

[Madame Verseau]

I an glad the Sussexes are thriving despite what the tough times they have experienced, especially losing the baby. [...]

 

[UglyAmerican]

I think what's bothering a lot of people is that every paid gig they've gotten (that we know about) is basically them getting paid for being famous. Harry has no relevant work experience that either Netflix or Spotify would be interested in paying for - there are far more random people with ideas for a new show than there are new shows in development at any given time. Meghan was a moderately successful actress, but there are a lot of moderately successful actors and actresses, and neither of those companies would pay very much for the experience and level of fame she had pre-Harry - particularly if it's her first foray into production rather than acting. Regardless of whether or not they said "You should sign us because we're royal" during negotiations, everyone involved knows they only have those deals because of their royal connections. (Well, Harry may be clueless enough to believe otherwise, but Meghan is too familiar with the industry to harbor any illusions.) Maybe it doesn't cross a bright line like selling Sussex Royal (tm) brand vegetable smoothies would have, but the only real difference is subtlety.

 

[Curryong]

[...] the Sussexes haven't done too badly in their first nine months in the US. A lovely mansion to live in and spectacular deals with two of the biggest major players on the home entertainment scene. Yes we will see in the future, and I'm sure they will do well.

I'm wishing them all the luck in the world for their future endeavours.

 

[angieuk]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...railer-Harry-Meghans-new-Spotify-podcast.html

All the money in the world; it must be all they think about day and night. I can't think of a more unpopular couple; apart from the Duke and Duchess of Windsor.

 

[Curryong]

There are plenty of people on social media who sneered months ago that the Sussexes would never earn their own livings. They've been proved wrong. That doesn't prove that the couple have an obsession with money. Nor that large businesses would hand over millions to a couple who were deeply unpopular with everyone.They're not stupid!

[...]

 

[Alison H]

I think what's bothering a lot of people is that every paid gig they've gotten (that we know about) is basically them getting paid for being famous.

It's the same with so many things. I feel so sorry for people who spend years writing a book, for example, and can't find a publisher, only for some celeb to write a load of rubbish and have it published because their name sells!

 

[adjovie]

[...]the Sussexes haven't done too badly in their first nine months in the US. A lovely mansion to live in and spectacular deals with two of the biggest major players on the home entertainment scene. Yes we will see in the future, and I'm sure they will do well.

I'm wishing them all the luck in the world for their future endeavours.

Despite all the obstacles, it's admirable to see Harry and Meghan doing so fabulously well for themselves.

I'm also wishing them (day and night) all the luck, good health, happiness, and yes, even more money in the future! I can't wait to see what more, and there's going to be more, endeavors, ventures etc, from them for years to come. I'm 110% certain the Sussexes will have more to unveil and thus will be "super discussed" come 2021…looking forward to it

 

[Fem]

So, we have a first trailer:
https://news.sky.com/story/harry-an...podcasts-including-christmas-special-12162703

Words can't describe how much I cringed at the begining. Disoriented Harry and Meghan trying to be all coy and sexy and oh lord please stop After the first 20 second it gets better, because clearly they have that part rehearsed and probably written in some form.

In some way I think we should've expected a podcast from them. Now everyone and their cat has one.

 

[adjovie]

Funny, I'm the opposite. I actually liked the beginning of the teaser; thought H&M were "awkward cute" and perhaps intentional? Admittedly, it was a bit weird upon first listen, but I quickly adjusted to hearing them speak after the second listen. As for pod-casting…yes indeed, this seems to be the year of the podcast; even I have been sucked in to the mania ? I want one too

 

[RandyDrx]

Just as many had predicted, these two really are using their royal titles to make money.

 

[Betsypaige]

They sounded exactly how I would have expected them to sound...

 

[Tamara77]

I am an American and I have relatives in California, they are interested in them in California and don't have any negativity.but I would not say "most" Americans don't like them. Unless there is a visit to every household there is no way of knowing who dislikes them or anything about how 'most" feel. Some perhaps do not care about any royals or their relatives or what happens. And that might be a significant number. I disagree with you. I have never heard one negative thing about them here. There is more dislike of Trump and he is the subject of much criticism not the sussexes. I think they have their fans, they have people who dislike them from the get go and those who don't care. The percentages unless something truly definitive is done is not known.

I didn't say people didn't like them. I said "People generally don't care for them", meaning: Folks generally just don't have the time or energy to focus on them past their own needs of keeping a job, feeding their families, avoiding or recovering from Covid. It doesn't matter that you are American as well and have relatives in California-so what? I'm trying to be kind here, but please don't twist my words, add to them, or otherwise bring politics into it.

 

[Alisa]

Just as many had predicted, these two really are using their royal titles to make money.

You clearly didn't listen to the podcast. The couple did not use their titles. They simply introduced themselves as Harry & Meghan.

 

[TLLK]

They sounded exactly how I would have expected them to sound...

Yes I have to agree that they did sound like I expected them to do so.

I didn't say people didn't like them. I said "People generally don't care for them", meaning: Folks generally just don't have the time or energy to focus on them past their own needs of keeping a job, feeding their families, avoiding or recovering from Covid. It doesn't matter that you are American as well and have relatives in California-so what? I'm trying to be kind here, but please don't twist my words, add to them, or otherwise bring politics into it.

Hi Tamara77-Speaking as a native Californian who resides in Los Angeles Co., apart from my mother and spouse have yet to hear any of my friends, work colleagues or family members mention the Sussexes except when they married in 2018. My daughter who is a student at UC Santa Barbara lives about ten-fifteen minutes away from Montecito and she wasn't even aware that they'd moved there.


Honestly like you I believe that the vast majority of Californians are focused upon other concerns and stories. If they're royal watchers, then yes they'd have an interest but otherwise the Sussexes are rarely even covered by the local media.

 

[Osipi]

Unless the podcast is closed captioned, it'll do me no good whatsoever so I've not really even checked into it. I'm kind of weird as I don't usually run any videos (my computer system here doesn't even have a sound card to it) and just recently, I've deleted my Twitter and Instagram accounts as I never use them. It's all part and parcel of living in a world where there is something of interest for everybody and the selections of interesting things are plentiful. I also grew up with a TV that only had 3-4 major stations to choose from so I can appreciate all the choices.

If these deals that Harry and Meghan are now making get them ahead in the world and serve to make Archewell a success, more power to them. They're actually *doing* something. They're trying and i can't fault them for that. it doesn't matter one bit that a podcast they do isn't something I'm interested in or can benefit from but even if only three people listen and pay attention and it changes their thinking, it'll have been a success.

 

[Betsypaige]

Yes I have to agree that they did sound like I expected them to do so.





Hi Tamara77-Speaking as a native Californian who resides in Los Angeles Co., apart from my mother and spouse have yet to hear any of my friends, work colleagues or family members mention the Sussexes except when they married in 2018. My daughter who is a student at UC Santa Barbara lives about ten-fifteen minutes away from Montecito and she wasn't even aware that they'd moved there.


Honestly like you I believe that the vast majority of Californians are focused upon other concerns and stories. If they're royal watchers, then yes they'd have an interest but otherwise the Sussexes are rarely even covered by the local media.

I don’t think it has to do with Californians or any other Americans; in general, during a pandemic or not, Americans don’t care one way or the other about the Royals. A small percentage of us follows the BRF, but certainly none of them, including Harry and Meghan, are covered by the media. They’re just another wealthy couple living the good life - their titles mean absolutely nothing here (except perhaps to starstruck business people who hire them - or would have under normal conditions- to give speeches). Americans as a whole do not like people getting special treatment just because they are rich and/or famous and/or some sort of celebrity.

 

[Osipi]

I don’t think it has to do with Californians or any other Americans; in general, during a pandemic or not, Americans don’t care one way or the other about the Royals. A small percentage of us follows the BRF, but certainly none of them, including Harry and Meghan, are covered by the media. They’re just another wealthy couple living the good life - their titles mean absolutely nothing here (except perhaps to starstruck business people who hire them - or would have under normal conditions- to give speeches). Americans as a whole do not like people getting special treatment just because they are rich and/or famous and/or some sort of celebrity.

It all depends too on where you look. Those that avidly care and follow the Sussexes will find anything and everything to do with them by a simple search with a search engine. It's out there. Those that are not interested will be searching for things they're personally interested in. Heck. We even have specialty TV channels now. One totally devoted to Western themes old and new. Those designated for romcoms and the happy, sappy and even sometimes crappy holiday "feel good" movies abound on at least 4 channels I have 24/7 now. Then there's strictly news channels for those avidly following politics and news. 328.2 million people in the US all with their specific likes and dislikes. How diverse eh? There really can't be a general consensus of likes and dislikes that encompasses all of us.

With me, it's like porn channels. I don't do them. I'm not even going to allow it on my radar. The BRF and the institution of the monarchy in the UK is very much on my radar and I follow them avidly. As far as I'm concerned, Harry and Meghan are a breed of UK royalty never seen before that have preferred to stand alone on their own merits without the global platform of the "Firm". It's a brand new road to go on and blaze a trail and although I'm not a "stan" of the Sussexes, I will follow them here on TRF but I don't go looking elsewhere to find out about them. Then again, I don't for *any* of the BRF as a rule.

But that's just me. And I'm a lonely petunia in an onion patch in a lot of things.

 

[Betsypaige]

It all depends too on where you look. Those that avidly care and follow the Sussexes will find anything and everything to do with them by a simple search with a search engine. It's out there. Those that are not interested will be searching for things they're personally interested in. Heck. We even have specialty TV channels now. One totally devoted to Western themes old and new. Those designated for romcoms and the happy, sappy and even sometimes crappy holiday "feel good" movies abound on at least 4 channels I have 24/7 now. Then there's strictly news channels for those avidly following politics and news. 328.2 million people in the US all with their specific likes and dislikes. How diverse eh? There really can't be a general consensus of likes and dislikes that encompasses all of us.

With me, it's like porn channels. I don't do them. I'm not even going to allow it on my radar. The BRF and the institution of the monarchy in the UK is very much on my radar and I follow them avidly. As far as I'm concerned, Harry and Meghan are a breed of UK royalty never seen before that have preferred to stand alone on their own merits without the global platform of the "Firm". It's a brand new road to go on and blaze a trail and although I'm not a "stan" of the Sussexes, I will follow them here on TRF but I don't go looking elsewhere to find out about them. Then again, I don't for *any* of the BRF as a rule.

But that's just me. And I'm a lonely petunia in an onion patch in a lot of things.

I'm sorry, Osipi, but color me confused - I don't see how your comments relate to my own.

I feel very comfortable in saying that Americans, as a whole don't care about the BRF or any Royal family. I stand by my comments. I'm not speaking for every single American - that's why I've said "in general" or "as a whole".

 

[Somebody]

You clearly didn't listen to the podcast. The couple did not use their titles. They simply introduced themselves as Harry & Meghan.

They don't need to introduce themselves as 'Their royal highnesses etc'; everyone knows who they are. Had it not been for Harry being the queen's grandson they would surely NOT have landed this deal with Spotify! So yes, they are making money of their royal titles/fame.