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Old 10-14-2020, 09:54 PM
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More social distancing needed guys -

https://mobile.twitter.com/TeenagerT...679617/photo/1
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Old 10-15-2020, 08:20 AM
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I agree Betsypaige - it's not as if Prince Charles is still in the first flush of youth, let alone the Queen and Prince Philip.

I do believe though, that the Duke of Sussex will return to the UK in November.

He'll then return to Montecito for Christmas with the Duchess' mother and their friends the Fosters.

And I think that he, the Duchess, and their son, will travel to the UK as a family before the New Year to self-isolate at Frogmore Cottage.

All being well, I think Meghan will conduct her January court case in person in London, as this court case is a corner-stone of her anit-bullying documentary.

To have the case conducted via Zoom or some such will not be seen as impactful as actually turning up at court.

Plenty of people are travelling now, so to spend a couple of weeks at Frogmore - and then again at the Riven Rock Chateau upon their return - is not a total hardship.

Especially as Meghan has been said to be a homebody, even a lone-wolf personality type, and to nest in the two homes you've created wouldn't be that hard.
That’s true, and Charles was actually sick...which obviously concerned Harry; I’m sure he’s looking forward to seeing his pa and grandparents, and vice versa.

Is Harry returning to the UK in November? For the tax situation previously described?

Everything you said makes sense...
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Old 10-15-2020, 08:24 AM
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More social distancing needed guys -

https://mobile.twitter.com/TeenagerT...679617/photo/1
Wow, and I suppose they are going to quarantine from Archie now? Yes, that’s sarcasm...and THAT is stupidity. It’s not anti-Harry and Meghan, either. My nephew has COVID because he and his dumb as rocks friends decided to all hang out together without masks. H and M are wearing masks, but they’ve got their arms around total strangers...sigh
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Old 10-15-2020, 09:25 AM
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More social distancing needed guys -

https://mobile.twitter.com/TeenagerT...679617/photo/1
Yes and in CA they're certainly advised to do so even if everyone is masked and outdoors. Great photo but as a parent of teens/young adults I'd feel better if there was a little more distance. Santa Barbara County is currently listed as "red" on the state list. "Red" is one tier down from the top with "purple" being the color for the most restricted activities. Los Angeles County is "purple."


Here's the new state guidelines for gatherings of three households released on 10/12/20.



https://kmph.com/news/local/californ...ate-gatherings


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4. Practice Physical Distancing and Hand Hygiene at Gatherings
  • For any gatherings permitted under this guidance, the space must be large enough so that everyone at a gathering can maintain at least a 6-foot physical distance from others (not including their own household) at all times.
  • Seating must provide at least 6 feet of distance (in all directions—front-to-back and side-to-side) between different households.
  • Everyone at a gathering should frequently wash their hands with soap and water, or use hand sanitizer if soap and water are not available. A place to wash hands or hand sanitizer must be available for participants to use.
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Old 10-15-2020, 09:39 AM
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How do we know that all the teenagers taking part in this gathering (and Harry and Meghan of course) haven't previously been tested for Covid 19 and found negative? I would imagine the organisers of this exercise would have made sure to have done this before arranging the talk.
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Old 10-15-2020, 09:49 AM
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I believe that it is possible that they were tested, but according to our current guidelines that doesn't exempt people from following them.
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Old 10-15-2020, 10:51 AM
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Wow, and I suppose they are going to quarantine from Archie now? Yes, that’s sarcasm...and THAT is stupidity. It’s not anti-Harry and Meghan, either. My nephew has COVID because he and his dumb as rocks friends decided to all hang out together without masks. H and M are wearing masks, but they’ve got their arms around total strangers...sigh
They are standing next to them but their arms are not around anyone but each other. Though it is a point of discussion especially when even today the monarch appeared without a mask at an official engagement despite strict restrictions being announced.

They are figure heads and people will question their actions especially when they expect differently of others.
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Old 10-15-2020, 12:04 PM
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They are standing next to them but their arms are not around anyone but each other. Though it is a point of discussion especially when even today the monarch appeared without a mask at an official engagement despite strict restrictions being announced.

They are figure heads and people will question their actions especially when they expect differently of others.
You’re right, they don’t have their arms around each other ...my mistake. I still don’t think they should be standing shoulder to shoulder with these kids...

What’s that about HM? !
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Old 10-15-2020, 12:08 PM
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How do we know that all the teenagers taking part in this gathering (and Harry and Meghan of course) haven't previously been tested for Covid 19 and found negative? I would imagine the organisers of this exercise would have made sure to have done this before arranging the talk.

It doesn't matter if everyone has tested negative. A negative test is not definitive (up to 30% false negatives) and a person can convert from negative to positive within days after the test if they have been infected.

Masks, tests, handwashing AND social distancing must be adhered to at all times. It called the "Swiss Cheese" approach--if the virus gets evades one of these methods, there are three other methods that can act to prevent spread.
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Old 10-15-2020, 12:50 PM
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They are standing next to them but their arms are not around anyone but each other. Though it is a point of discussion especially when even today the monarch appeared without a mask at an official engagement despite strict restrictions being announced.
Just to clarify in the UK the official guidelines are that you must wear a mask indoors. HM appeared at an event that was held outdoors and maintained the required two meter distance.


https://www.gov.uk/coronavirus


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    Make space stay at least 2 metres apart - or 1 metre with a face covering or other precautions

The Sussexes being in CA have a different set of regulations that they're expected to follow. ( I posted them in an earlier post.) They were following them in regards to the use of masks and being outdoors, but they should have been distanced six feet apart.
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Old 10-15-2020, 07:14 PM
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I'm glad that the Sussexes had the opportunity to meet with the teens and discuss mental health. And for the most part they were following the state issued guidelines except in the photo where they were so close together. However I must state that the Sussexes currently reside in a county with a fairly small hospital (519) that serves the entire county. The ongoing concern been that Cottage Hospital in Santa Barbara would be overwhelmed should there be large numbers of COVID 19 cases. For this reason the UC Santa Barbara has closed its dorms and apartments to all undergraduates and encouraged students to remain at home for two quarters this year. So it's important that the state's guidelines be adhered to by all.
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Several posts concerning the Queen and the Duke of Cambridge have been moved to the https://www.theroyalforums.com/forum...ml#post2348792 thread.
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Old 10-16-2020, 09:00 AM
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New photos of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex - a photo of them together and individual shots of them each.

Black and white professional snaps for a new Time thing they are going to do.
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Old 10-16-2020, 09:02 AM
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Sun Lion-Did you mean share a link to the black and white photos? If you did, it's not visible.
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Sun Lion-Did you mean share a link to the black and white photos? If you did, it's not visible.
Sorry TLLK - yes here they are - Omid Scobie's Twitter and also TIME'S PR -


https://mobile.twitter.com/scobie/st...117312/photo/1

https://time.com/5899765/duke-duches...al-experience/
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Old 10-16-2020, 09:06 AM
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Thank you for sharing these wonderful photos of the Sussexes.
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Old 10-16-2020, 10:44 AM
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New photos of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex - a photo of them together and individual shots of them each.

Black and white professional snaps for a new Time thing they are going to do.
Ah - explains why her last 3 speeches have founded like they were written by Tristan Harris. They probably were.
Tristan Harris currently has a documentary on Netflix.
But no one from Google, Facebook, Instagram and yep, Twitter - the real culprits I actually do support the cause, but not the method. If you want to change the art , involve the artists - not the people occasionally viewing it. Also it you want humane technology - you need to ensure that the people using act like humans. Afraid we don't anymore, especially online.
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Old 10-16-2020, 11:18 AM
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Thanks Sun Lion for posting links to the striking black and white photos. Lovely! Also, interesting news about their new Time endeavour.
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Old 10-16-2020, 12:26 PM
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It's odd how Meghan is now referring to the Royal Family as an "Institution" as if she as unaware of what is was prior to marrying a Prince.
Not really, I mean technically it is referred to as an institution, but if we take the way Meghan has been framing her time in the UK I think (and this simply going by things she has said) she is trying to frame herself as the helpless victim who was wrongly abused by the "evil institution". essentially I think she is trying to equate the royal family to a mental institution, that she was wrongly locked up in and now that she is free she mentally healthy again!

It fits the victim narrative she has been pushing.

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I'm not sure. IT seems to me that from their marriage, they were meant to be full time royal workers, based in the UK, and with a role that would entail a lot of travelling...I think if they'd said before the marriage that they wanted a period of moving into royal duties slowly, I think the queen would have been OK with it.. but I suspect it only really came up, when they started to say they were unhappy...which presumably happened after the marriage.
They've basically insinuated that the RF/Queen had been unwilling to talk to them or take their concerns seriously, which was why they went public prematurely... but its possible that the queen did offered a half way house of a year or 2 living in Africa as a way of giving them a bit of time off before they embarked on bieng full time royals.
my guess?
They were probably offered before the wedding a couple of years to settle in before ramping up their royal work, but likely rejected it. And rather than admit they were wrong they did what they did.


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More social distancing needed guys -

https://mobile.twitter.com/TeenagerT...679617/photo/1
Yes I agree!
They were also, based on the picture, not wearing masks during the podcast!

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Just to clarify in the UK the official guidelines are that you must wear a mask indoors. HM appeared at an event that was held outdoors and maintained the required two meter distance.


https://www.gov.uk/coronavirus



The Sussexes being in CA have a different set of regulations that they're expected to follow. ( I posted them in an earlier post.) They were following them in regards to the use of masks and being outdoors, but they should have been distanced six feet apart.
If you saw pictures of them from the podcast neither Harry nor Meghan were wearing masks during the podcast.. and they were indoors.

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I'm glad that the Sussexes had the opportunity to meet with the teens and discuss mental health. And for the most part they were following the state issued guidelines except in the photo where they were so close together. However I must state that the Sussexes currently reside in a county with a fairly small hospital (519) that serves the entire county. The ongoing concern been that Cottage Hospital in Santa Barbara would be overwhelmed should there be large numbers of COVID 19 cases. For this reason the UC Santa Barbara has closed its dorms and apartments to all undergraduates and encouraged students to remain at home for two quarters this year. So it's important that the state's guidelines be adhered to by all.
I'm not, they said some incredibly dangerous things! and wasted a great opportunity to talk about the state of lack of mental help access in the US vs for example the UK.
I truly hope no person who listened to that podcast, and is struggling with serious mental issues listens and tries to follow what they said.

As someone with a past struggle, and a friend who suffers from a serious mental health, and another who is a mental health pro... we were all outraged.

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New photos of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex - a photo of them together and individual shots of them each.

Black and white professional snaps for a new Time thing they are going to do.
Harry looks okay, though something in his eyes is not clicking for me, something about the images doesn't feel right.. they don't seem in sync if it makes sense.
As for the talk.. it's just... the overall message is fine, but the way they (Mainly Meghan imo) constantly make it about themselves - (though I do feel at times Harry tried to turn it away from them - like in the Malala video, and the podcast).
Just, this feels like it will be another empty gesture of alot of works but no real solutions. Where it will end up being about them (her, but also them) rather than the topic.
And like someone said, there is literally no one from any of the social media companies, how are you gonna make changes if you can't bring the companies to the table?!
And honestly? until the couple denounces Sussex squad and their behavior, and Omid Scobie allowing them free reign of his account, I just can't take anything they say about the topic seriously, they just sound like the over privileged spoiled people that they are.
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I'm not, they said some incredibly dangerous things! and wasted a great opportunity to talk about the state of lack of mental help access in the US vs for example the UK.
I truly hope no person who listened to that podcast, and is struggling with serious mental issues listens and tries to follow what they said.

As someone with a past struggle, and a friend who suffers from a serious mental health, and another who is a mental health pro... we were all outraged.
Much the same - quite. If you are having issues with social media - delete the app, don't use the phone and actually have normally relationship off line. Meghan made it sounds as it there is no option but to be on twitter and Instagram, for anyone in the world. And you really shouldn't tell children -
that social media can be un- survivable. I would have through that their talk would have been triggering to most teenagers listening.
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