I'm just going to stick this back in here: https://archive.ph/snrmO (good piece from the Telegraph).
I read it and it's very good IMO but terribly sad at the same time.
I'm just going to stick this back in here: https://archive.ph/snrmO (good piece from the Telegraph).
This was good.
I have to say- it does kind of look like Meghan wants to be Diana. She just adds the race factor in. This article made a good argument for it.
Someone else called Meghan manipulative and ruthless.
I enjoy any author who will call Meghan out on that stupid, over the top Little Mermaid reference. It was laughable. People actually fell for that?! I can’t take someone seriously who makes absurd analogies like that. And to think Meghan graduated from college....
When I heard the Little Mermaid's reference, I sat and wondered what the hell. Didn't this one turn into seafoam?I enjoy any author who will call Meghan out on that stupid, over the top Little Mermaid reference. It was laughable. People actually fell for that?! I can’t take someone seriously who makes absurd analogies like that. And to think Meghan graduated from college....
I'm just going to stick this back in here: https://archive.ph/snrmO (good piece from the Telegraph).
The latest they kept me in the house for 4 months story was that when she was staying in Windsor her and Doria wanted to drive to town to buy take out coffee but was banned. I would suggest she was advised for security it would not be a good idea, did nobody give them a coffee maker for a wedding present. Why would you want to drive in a car to buy a coffee to take it back home.
It would be a huge loss to royal followers over the world should the British Monarchy fall, but I have a feeling, that Charles and Camilla, William and Kate, George, Charlotte, and Louis would just fine. They are wealthy and healthy, it might even be a relief to them.
My favourite picture is the one in SA that's exactly Diana in Africa, down to the pose. Same outfit, same accessories, hands on hips everything. She knew what she was doing there, so she'd clearly done a lot of Diana research. Why couldn't she have researched royal protocol and expectations as well?
That lends credence to some staffers saying she was determined to be the poor outsider if she/they couldn't have it all their own way.
I do like that article pointing out that she didn't seem to have realised that she was the Fergie, not the Diana in "The Institution". Little different there.
I have to defend Meghan here on the Little Mermaid reference. It's a trademark of having a child that you read books to every night before they go to sleep. The story gets implanted permanently in your brain and you find yourself speaking like these storybook characters when you're in a totally adult situation. Like out to dinner with friends, you'll catch yourself going "I have to go potty. Be right back."
Do you think that might be Harry's goal? He seems to genuinely believe that his father and brother are trapped by a sense of duty in a system that's harming them. If the monarchy is abolished, they'd be free to move on with their lives (as Harry has done) without any lingering guilt from abandoning their duty. Or so it might seem to Harry, who may believe he's doing them a favor in the long run.
It occurs to me that the Spencer side of the family has just been quiet.
I wonder if Harry has seen the photograph of his 99 year old grandfather leaving hospital today. It should give him food for thought.
Plenty of ordinary people do enjoy driving out to buy their favourite coffee; sometimes every day.
Meghan's comment shows that the usual way of royal existence (considering security and media attention) was too confining for her.
It's obvious that Harry did not give Meghan enough time to understand the lifestyle he wanted her to embrace.
How horrid that Harry and Meghan have discussed family conversations with Gayle King. The Royal family can no longer speak with them in confidence.
I watched the movie a number of times. I’m close to Meghan’s age. But Meghan using a Disney princess to compare herself to. It annoys me. It just felt over the top.
But why would they get involved? They weren't the family he dragged onto Oprah. And it doesn't really serve them to either trash or back Harry, at least not at this point, not until and unless something else happens. Staying quiet appears to be the tactful and tasteful thing to do right now.
I think it's a cultural difference? I work in an international company and once or twice per year (well, excluding the damned 2020/2021) we get some visitors from the main office in NYC. I swear, every single one of them shows up in the morning, a cup of coffee from Starbucks in hand, while we look at them weirdly, because there is (a really good) coffee machine in the kitchen with free coffeeThe latest they kept me in the house for 4 months story was that when she was staying in Windsor her and Doria wanted to drive to town to buy take out coffee but was banned. I would suggest she was advised for security it would not be a good idea, did nobody give them a coffee maker for a wedding present. Why would you want to drive in a car to buy a coffee to take it back home.
But why would they get involved? They weren't the family he dragged onto Oprah. And it doesn't really serve them to either trash or back Harry, at least not at this point, not until and unless something else happens. Staying quiet appears to be the tactful and tasteful thing to do right now.
When I heard the Little Mermaid's reference, I sat and wondered what the hell. Didn't this one turn into seafoam?
Ah, the differences between growing up in a (by then, very recently) ex-Communist country and growing up in Hollywood. In the first setting, it wasn't a sure thing at all that you'd grow up with a video to actually watch The Little Mermaid, so the chances that you'd read the fairytale were higher. To me, the Little Mermaid is always the Andersen's one. The other is Ariel.
It was mildly second-hand embarrassing to watch a grown, educated woman gushing over a film character without any indication that she was acquainted with one of the most famous literary fairytales on which it was based. But then, that's Meghan. That's Hollywood. Even when The Little Mermaid's story would have served her better, by mentioning that she wanted to avoid her fate, took her life in her own hands and achieved her Disney happy ending.
The Little Mermaid turned into seafoam and then she rose from it to become a spirit of the air. The tale was magnificently translated into Bulgarian and the story was so rich and dramatic that, IMO, it would have made a far better background for the dramatic part Meghan wanted to present. The knives cutting the Little Mermaid's feet (well, the knife-like pain) would have made such a magnificent comparison for Meghan's struggles at each step of the way.Yes the original Hans Christian Andersen tale didn't have a "Happy Ever After" prince for the Little Mermaid. Though as I recall, she was not transformed into sea foam because of her kind gesture to not kill the prince. I believe she became a spirit of the air?
Considering that Walt Disney's "Little Mermaid" came out in 1989 when Meghan was 7 or 8 years of age, she likely saw the Disney film in the theater or saw it on home video. Perhaps she even dressed up as Ariel the Mermaid for Halloween. From her interview remarks, that's the version that she remembers instead of the original tale.
It occurs to me that the Spencer side of the family has just been quiet.
I suppose ML and Durek haven't straight up publicly attacked and blackmailed her family but I'm not sure I could say it's hugely better. They've done a lot more than just one embarrassing stage show - that parts grieving people from their cash.
I just can't get over what huge ego there is to say all you want "The Institution" to do is protect you from the press whilst getting "upset" that everyone in the world took your accusation about the BRF being racist "the wrong way" and aren't really focusing on H&M in that scenario.
How no one wants to talk to the person who spent nearly 2 hours bringing up every little petty thing that went wrong and purposely distorted the truth for revenge.
And giving your new "friend" permission to say this on life TV in front of millions.
If you are actual royalty, comparing yourself to Disney royalty is a) more than a bit tacky , b) pretty shallow (so much for being a mermaid) , and c) showing how totally out of your depths you are (...Okay. So she might be on to something) .
Seriously, if you think RL royalty is meant to be like the Mouse Factory, you're going to have a problem.
But a Disney princess comparison rubs me the wrong way. It exemplifies the Hollywood ways Meghan wanted to introduce to the RF. And not being acquainted with the original tale somehow fits with her overall approach that time-honoured practices weren't for her and she knew best...
This thread has gone a bit off the rails, I think. A bunch of people who were already disproportionally negative towards the Sussexes prior to the interview now repeatedly affirming each other in their dislike of them. I definitely don't agree with everything the Sussexes have said and done but I think everyone in here could benefit from taking a deep breath and maybe attempt to take their most hateful glasses off when looking at them.
I keep thinking about this and I feel like almost any other Disney princess would have been less annoying.
-Aurora/Briar Rose/Sleeping Beauty, who was actually held hostage and without agency?
-Pocahontas, who braved lethal culture clashes and forged her own path?
-Tiana, like I've said, who worked and worked until she made it?
-Rapunzel, who just ran off with her guy to get what she wanted? (Maybe not Tangled.)
But Meghan was so determined to push the "she lost her voice" narrative, she didn't even think about the other ramifications of the analogy and the cluelessness involved. So, not enough of a Disney Princess fan, either, and no points for creativity or originality.
Do you think that might be Harry's goal? He seems to genuinely believe that his father and brother are trapped by a sense of duty in a system that's harming them. If the monarchy is abolished, they'd be free to move on with their lives (as Harry has done) without any lingering guilt from abandoning their duty. Or so it might seem to Harry, who may believe he's doing them a favor in the long run.
In all honesty, I think that Harry's goal at this time is to get more money, he can't see far down the road and realize that should the monarchy fail, he will not get a cent. Then, it would truly be all Charles' money.
This is just preposterous. Think of the interview what you will but no one's "blackmailing" anyone. "Everyone in the world" definitely haven't reacted badly to the allegations of racism I suppose if you only read anti-Sussex viewpoints it can come off as such but in reality, there seems to be a big generational divide in the reactions to the allegations. On that, I think The Guardian's Marina Hyde said it best: "a problem if you're in charge of something that has to get handed down the generations". And what truths have they "distorted for revenge"? That's a pretty serious accusation.
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This thread has gone a bit off the rails, I think. A bunch of people who were already disproportionally negative towards the Sussexes prior to the interview now repeatedly affirming each other in their dislike of them. I definitely don't agree with everything the Sussexes have said and done but I think everyone in here could benefit from taking a deep breath and maybe attempt to take their most hateful glasses off when looking at them.
I dont think that things will ever be quite the same wiht the RF and Harry.. or at least not for a LONG time. They may have been kidding themselves some of them that this is all about MEg being difficult nad not blaming him so much. But his words and actions have shown that he is bitterly resentful about his own family, and doesn't care how much he hurts or damages them...
My favourite picture is the one in SA that's exactly Diana in Africa, down to the pose. Same outfit, same accessories, hands on hips everything. She knew what she was doing there, so she'd clearly done a lot of Diana research. Why couldn't she have researched royal protocol and expectations as well?
That lends credence to some staffers saying she was determined to be the poor outsider if she/they couldn't have it all their own way.
I do like that article pointing out that she didn't seem to have realised that she was the Fergie, not the Diana in "The Institution". Little different there.