The Duchess of Sussex: Family and Background

[duchessrachel]

Originally Posted by jacqui24

What's interesting in this whole mess is that, of everything that's been said, by everyone that's the talked, including Samantha. NOT ONE account of Meghan behaving badly towards family. Even when Samantha described their last conversation in 2014, it was clear that Meghan was going to handle things as diplomatically as she can without compromising herself. Samantha was upset because Meghan wouldn't cough up any cash, but even then, it was cordial on Meghan's side.

Given the entitlement and bratty behavior we've seen, Meghan has been exemplary in her behavior in dealing with these people, before and after Harry.

All Meghan needs to remember is that shitty things happen in life. What doesn't break you makes you stronger and keep holding your head high. If other grown adults wants to flash their behind in public, that's their business.

I knew they last talked in 2014, but I never read what the conversation was about. Can you link me to the article describing it or just give me a summary? I was not aware that Samantha had asked Meghan for money.

[jacqui24]

Originally Posted by duchessrachel

I knew they last talked in 2014, but I never read what the conversation was about. Can you link me to the article describing it or just give me a summary? I was not aware that Samantha had asked Meghan for money.

It was because of their father. By Samantha's account, she called Meghan to tell Meghan to help their dad financially. And Meghan told her there is just too many cooks in the kitchen. There are other things said, but in general, it was cordial and nice. But the point of the phone call was Samantha telling Meghan she's making a lot of money and she should bail dad out. I'm not understanding why Samantha feels like she should be the one to reach out to Meghan on this since it's their father's money issues.

[Osipi]

There's a possibility that with this scenario between Samantha and Meghan, Meghan preferred to take care of things one on one with her father and didn't need Samantha playing middleman. Tom, I believe even stated that he's never asked Meghan for money. Perhaps this anecdote just shows Samantha's tendency to be the manipulator in the family and she's had practice at it. Then again, most likely Meghan has dealt with this from Sam before too.

[Soula]

Thomas seems to have gone very quiet. There have been no new comments from him which is what I had expected given it was Meghan's birthday last week.
He could have had a field day but he hasn't so far and the tabloids are just regurgitating old news.
I think there may be some truth in the reconciliation rumours....

[M. Payton]

Maybe also he is quiet because he has NOTHING new to talk about, he is shut out of Meghan and Harry's lives so, what can he say really. He made a fool of himself not Meghan, so all he and his other children can do now is just rehash old stories, make up new lies, fill the pages of the tabloids with nothing really.

Only if and when Meghan, Harry or KP come out and say they are headed to Ca or any place for a reunion will I then believe it.......certainly not the tabloids or reporters....

[O-H Anglophile]

Originally Posted by M. Payton

Only if and when Meghan, Harry or KP come out and say they are headed to Ca or any place for a reunion will I then believe it.......certainly not the tabloids or reporters....

I would be very surprised to get any announcement from anyone should Meghan meet with her father. It is none of our business.

[Cocoasneeze]

Originally Posted by Soula

Thomas seems to have gone very quiet. There have been no new comments from him which is what I had expected given it was Meghan's birthday last week.
He could have had a field day but he hasn't so far and the tabloids are just regurgitating old news.
I think there may be some truth in the reconciliation rumours....

Or he listened to someone other than Samantha, who filled him in what a fool he's looking like shouting to the sky, that Meghan would be nothing without him, everything she is, is because of him, and what an awful attitude she got from her mother. Maybe he saw, that it would be best for him to shut up, that trying to publicly humiliate and emotionally abuse Meghan was doing 'his image' no favours.

I think we're back to Samantha being his mouth piece, and him trying to win over the public again by being quiet.

I have to add, that he gave his last interview to the DailyMail less than three weeks ago. It's not like he's been quiet for months. We were just used to him spouting off bi-weekly, so when he passed that, it seems like he's been quiet longer.

[Osipi]

Its August and all the BRF are taking summer breaks for the most part and aren't as active in the public eye so there's not much "out there" for anyone really to comment on as far as Harry ahd Meghan go right now.

All anyone has to bleat about is stuff that's already been said and done and its like Soula stated, they're regurgitating old stuffs. I don't believe for a minute that they're slipping away quietly into the sunset but gathering steam for whatever is going to come next.

Reruns in the summertime is boring. No matter if its on TV or in the press.

[M. Payton]

Originally Posted by O-H Anglophile

I would be very surprised to get any announcement from anyone should Meghan meet with her father. It is none of our business.

That is why I said what I did, I know that nothing will ever come from KP or anyone else regarding Sr., Sam or anyone else in that family.......and your correct it is not our business yet we here make it our business in everything the royals do.....

[csw]

It may be he has been informed the meeting will only happen he doesn't tell anyone - including his other daughter. Daddy keeping her in the dark would explain Samantha's thinking it wasn't true.

[jacqui24]

Originally Posted by csw

It may be he has been informed the meeting will only happen he doesn't tell anyone - including his other daughter. Daddy keeping her in the dark would explain Samantha's thinking it wasn't true.

Well, it wouldn't be the first time. Tom did manage to keep things from rest of his family that harassed him for a wedding invite regarding his role in the wedding. However, to me, he is a ticking time bomb at this point. It's not a matter of if he can behave, but when he would go rogue again.

[Osipi]

To be honest, I would think that *if* (and that's a big *if*) there were plans to have a sit down between Meghan and her father, it wouldn't be something done under the radar with Meghan flying to the US and having a clandestine meeting with Tom, Sr. and hope against hope it gets pulled off in total secrecy. I think this is a ploy by the tabloids and the Markles playing on a rumor that she is even heading to the US solo. Something about it just doesn't sound kosher to me at all.

It, to me, would be far more logical to have dad fly to the UK with a personal assistant assigned by KP, a RPO when he hits UK soil and a guaranteed private conversation somewhere on the grounds of KP. There's is also a guarantee with this kind of a scenario that no tabloid or anyone could get even close to Tom. Sr. When you don't trust someone 100%, you cover all your bases.

When the BRF plans things to go to their advantage and work things out to how it solves a problem for them, its not done by half measures. Meghan flying solo to the US sounds like its poorly planned to say the least.

These are just my thoughts on it. Who knows what is really going on?

[Ish]

But, Osipi, you can do all that to ensure that tabloids or paparazzi don’t have access to the meeting, but unless the purpose of the assistant and RPO is to prevent him from being able to go anywhere, you can’t guarantee he won’t have access to British news sources while in the UK, and you certainly can’t prevent him from turning around and selling his story of the meeting to TMZ or Piers Morgan or whoever the highest bidder is that day.

Any meeting with Tom Markle is one that Tom Markle can sell to the press, if not during it then certainly after.

[wyevale]

I hope NONE of these rumours have ANY basis 'in fact'..

Markle Sr, his son and other daughter have placed THEMSELVES 'beyond the Pale', and permanent ostracism is the ONLY safe course of action [imo]

[Osipi]

No matter what scenario is drawn up then, the simple fact is that Tom, Sr. is not to be trusted as far as one can throw him. Even with the strictest security and "babysitting" in the scenario that I've presented previously, it very well could be that Tom, Sr. refuses to go along with that. He already feels that the "palace" had a gag order from even talking to him. He's not going to trust anyone that remotely reeks of the UK palace or protection system.

The more we do look at it, the more it really makes sense that the palace and Meghan and Harry doing absolutely nothing is the best possible move at this time. The e(strange)d family can't bleat to the press about something they have no clue about. Samantha wants to drag this out for as long and for as profitable as she can and most surely wouldn't want a reconciliation to happen at all as that would put Sam on the outside looking in once again all by herself.

[Kataryn]

Originally Posted by Ish

But, Osipi, you can do all that to ensure that tabloids or paparazzi don’t have access to the meeting, but unless the purpose of the assistant and RPO is to prevent him from being able to go anywhere, you can’t guarantee he won’t have access to British news sources while in the UK, and you certainly can’t prevent him from turning around and selling his story of the meeting to TMZ or Piers Morgan or whoever the highest bidder is that day.

Any meeting with Tom Markle is one that Tom Markle can sell to the press, if not during it then certainly after.

es. But then it is understandible to anyone that Meghan is not longer talking to him. Who wants a "confidant" to blab to the media??

[royal rob]

I haven’t followed this thread much because I feel it’s nobody’s business
Nobody knows what really goes on in a family. To an outsider if can look all sunshine and happy days when really it’s not so. I wish everyone just moved on as we don’t know what her childhood was like. Just ignore him

[burbankstorylady]

Everyone has relationships they’d rather not associate with. What’s unique about her situation is that her embarrassing relationships do not have anything to lose. They can’t gain admittance to her new world by not talking. She will ignore them no matter what. So there is nothing to lose by talking to the press, and there is even short term financial gain. So they take the latter. It’s a bad idea to make your enemies desperate. They won’t hesitate to grab at any opportunity to tell their grievances, make a brand, and make money. See example of celebrity big brother and the marijuana business of those Oregon kids.

[Madame Verseau]

You can't make this up. Perhaps this is why Dad hasn't been seen or heard.

https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2...-drug-scandal/

Apparently the woman who was "friends" with Dad saw him as a sugar daddy and took $6000 from him. Along the way Dad was spending tabloid blood money on her and her daughter. I knew it would be a matter of time before the tabloids get bored with the wash rinse repeat bashing of Meghan and find a new angle to report on the Markles. What's worse this woman may know where the bodies are buried when it comes to Sr, Jr and Sam's skulldruggery and may be Skyping the Daily Mail as I type. If this story is true I don't feel sorry for Sr after what he has done to Meghan and for backing Sam's abuse. You don't do dirt on people and it doesn't come back on you somehow. This may be a sign that the Markles finally get their comeuppances.

[Princess of Durham]

It appears that "dad" isn't all that bright. As I recall he was also foxed out of a good bit of his lottery money by a "friend".