The Duchess of Sussex: Family and Background

[Osipi]

Originally Posted by M. Payton

Good question for I wondered the same ..........

The thing here is that the Markle;s have *NOTHING* new to talk about, there is absolutely nothing new coming from Meghan, Harry or KP for them to talk about, so they drag up anything and everything to keep the focus on them and their vile lives....soon and very soon the media will dump them for all their threats, interviews, tweeting , and what nots, is not working so with no media in their back pockets off they go and thing will die down to a normal boring life here......

Then we can enjoy all the events that Harry and Meghan do with pleasure.....

Most likely too with a flood of overdue payment requests to Samantha from her "publicist".

[Lady Nimue]

Originally Posted by O-H Anglophile

I agree, I don't see very much about Meghan's family--a headline here or there about Samantha's lastest rant or Thomas's latest interview with a heftly sprinkling of Meghan's clothes and a few nasty she broke some protocol stories.

I think in the greater world, most people don't care. Some may feel a passing thought of sympathy because Meghan has a mostly crummy paternal family--but people are getting tired of the non-story.

I think some people here at TRF are more invested in this than anyone but maybe Samantha.

Exactly what I see. There is so much going on in the world of far greater import requiring our attention, after all.

Originally Posted by ladongas

I just don’t want Markle Sr. to die before he and Meghan have some sort of understanding. It could happen, and I would hate for her to have to carry that through life.

As for that, there is nothing for her to 'carry'. Certainly not guilt. It's the person who passes that needs to come to peace with the world before crossing over.

Originally Posted by Zonk

So the continuing Markle saga isn't hurting their business. I also see a large number of random articles in my yahoo page about it. I can't tell if its because its new or its because I google search the Markles.

That's what you are seeing. Use someone else's computer (who is not into royalty) to see the radical difference in what pops up. What we see on the internet is really skewed to our interests and hence can be very misleading.

[AlowVera]

Originally Posted by Marlo

What is the point of this article?

None of those homes are rags. I mean they look like typical middle class homes. Do people in the UK live in mansions? Seems like the DM does'nt really get property values in the US. All of those homes are easily worth more than 400 K based on the overpriced California market.

[Missjersey]

Originally Posted by Marlo

What is the point of this article?

Just another hook until the canaries sing again...

[Curryong]

Yes, it's just clickbait, and random stuff at that! The homes looked quite nice to me, though the journalists concerned threw in 'notorious' and 'rundown' a few times in order to emphasise 'rags to riches' nonsense. And of course there was 'hippy' this and 'hippy' that, referring to her parents' marriage.

A two bedroom apartment is a bit small but of course the older siblings had moved out by the time Meghan was in high school. None of those places were anything like the really rundown properties you can still see in some parts of London and other British cities and some of the comments pointed that out. It really is a non-story, except for the throw-away line about there being tensions between Meghan and her father over his irresponsibility when she was in her late teens.

[O-H Anglophile]

Originally Posted by Lady Nimue

That's what you are seeing. Use someone else's computer (who is not into royalty) to see the radical difference in what pops up. What we see on the internet is really skewed to our interests and hence can be very misleading.

Absolutely true, and a little scary.

I'm a librarian, a few years ago our director wanted us to buy oodles of copies of a certain book. It was tangential to a topic he was very interested in personally. He was seeing lots of reference and links to this book because of his personal interests and searches and assumed there was high interest everywhere. The book ended up not really being very popular at all with our library customers, his expectations were skewed by what his computer was showing him.

[Zaira]

The interesting thing about the Daily Mail article is the brief snippet about Meghan being a youth minister at her church and meeting a woman in Ireland who knew her from that time. Meghan apparently took her faith seriously as a teen.

Also, Doria owned a clothing and knick-knack store? First I have heard about that. I thought she worked in travel while Meghan was growing up.

Those kinds of tidbits to me were much more interesting than the pics of the flats that now look nothing like they did when she lived there or the narrative they are trying to sell of lower class Meg.

[Lady Reem]

Originally Posted by hel

The fear, however, is that meeting with him will just lead to a cycle of "meet, rapprochement, betrayal, silence, calls for her to meet with him again", endlessly. She could meet with him and in six months be back in a position of being estranged from him. And then people would say "but what if he dies?"

Someone above said that Meghan needs to "make amends" with Sr. Making amends is something you do towards someone you've wronged. Not someone who's been publically attempting to abuse you into a relationship while making it impossible for you to meet them halfway.

We all recognize that "be nice to me and I'll stop hitting you" is not a healthy dynamic. Somehow "be nice to me and I'll stop saying terrible things about you" doesn't get recognized as equally unhealthy.

Another common sense post.

I’ll never understand the logic from certain quarters in placing the burden on a victim of abuse rather than the perpetrator. And the infantilism of the ‘wrong doer’/bully ..is just

Also, the ‘demands’ usually get bigger & bigger in these kind of scenarios...

Originally Posted by Curryong

Yes, it's just clickbait, and random stuff at that! The homes looked quite nice to me, though the journalists concerned threw in 'notorious' and 'rundown' a few times in order to emphasise 'rags to riches' nonsense. And of course there was 'hippy' this and 'hippy' that, referring to her parents' marriage.

A two bedroom apartment is a bit small but of course the older siblings had moved out by the time Meghan was in high school. None of those places were anything like the really rundown properties you can still see in some parts of London and other British cities and some of the comments pointed that out. It really is a non-story, except for the throw-away line about there being tensions between Meghan and her father over his irresponsibility when she was in her late teens.

The inconsistencies of various narratives from the snippets I’ve seen so far and the unreliability of some rather proven (dodgy-with-truth) ‘sources’ for that book, i.e. Tom Jr ..just leaves me

[Madame Verseau]

When I was reading the article on the housing it brought to mind one of Dad's burn interviews which he claimed to have made 250,000USD a yr. during his career. Even with the cost of living in LA how did just get a two bedroom apartment? The Daily Beast got a hold of Dad's tax returns for 2016 and claimed to make approximately 48000 a year. Meghan's ex husband Trevor still lives in the house they shared and he can't be a player in Hollywood if he lives on Sunset Strip behind a club called Whiskey a Go Go.

We all know the Markles are motivated by greed and resentment for making money from Meghan. This article simply makes the case.

[Lady Nimue]

Originally Posted by Madame Verseau

When I was reading the article on the housing it brought to mind one of Dad's burn interviews which he claimed to have made 250,000USD a yr. during his career. Even with the cost of living in LA how did just get a two bedroom apartment? The Daily Beast got a hold of Dad's tax returns for 2016 and claimed to make approximately 48000 a year.

Who knows? Money obviously ran through his fingers like water. Dunno. But where he was living was not cheap and near the school is nice.

Originally Posted by Madame Verseau

Meghan's ex husband Trevor still lives in the house they shared and he can't be a player in Hollywood if he lives on Sunset Strip behind a club called Whiskey a Go Go.

Why can't he be 'a player' if he lives where he does? Do you know something I don't know? Where do 'players' live?

Just for clarity, the club has a lot of history but is very much a normal place one can bring anyone for 'good clean fun'. Nothing racy or honkey-tonk. Also, it is located on Sunset Blvd (not Sunset Strip) and the area (given the way LA's neighborhood's work) has nice places all around there: houses and apartment buildings gated and upscale. One could say it's 'cute' in an LA kind of way. JMO. (There may be others who know more than I do about the area, please chime in).

[Kataryn]

Looked it up on Google Street view and the neighborhood behind the club is nice enough. Judging by the cars parked in front of the buildings and the amount of greenery, it is a pleasant place to live.

[MARG]

After reading and watching since the wedding I was surprised when Tom Snr said he told Harry and Meghan not to come and see him after the wedding. Both Harry and Meghan knew they were delaying their honeymoon so they could attend a Garden Party celebrating Harry's dad's charities and patronages to mark his birthday.

To tell Tom "you're our first stop" was a natural response from Harry and Meghan and yet Tom was adamant that they should not visit him. Why? Was he too embarrassed about being caught out working with the media at the same time they were asking the media to back off for his health and he was talking to TMZ?

I believe Meghan has always loved her dad as a child does, unconditionally. As an adult, I think she approached him in hope and was forever disappointed and hurt and his pulling the plug before the wedding was his showing her where she stood in his life. He turned down an all expenses paid trip to London to give his daughter away at her wedding, and he did it very publically. He also got paid for his comments and it must have been more than the cost of a first-class round trip.

About that time several credible sources voiced doubt as to whether or not Tom actually underwent heart surgery and I cannot help but believe that Harry and Meghan had already sent someone to discreetly ascertain whether Tom was okay. Meanwhile, his daughter's coat of arms is published and Mr Thomas Markle, ostensible head of the house, did not receive one.

Suddenly neither of the Sussexes is answering the phone and Tom went on the offensive with GMB. But sorrow at missing the wedding wasn't an issue, the problem was his daughter dared to ignore him and even worse, HM was going to host the President for Tea. He declared himself far more worthy of taking tea with HM than the President.

Bingo, the penny dropped. While money is nice, fame is is better and he seemed far more aggrieved about HM than he did about his having to miss daughter's wedding. Worse, he had watched his ex-wife treated like royalty and it was obvious she was very a welcome guest and would continue to be so.

I wondered why Meghan and Harry felt it necessary take such a drastic action as to cut off communication and think he must have done more than just bad mouth them and HM publically.

[Cocoasneeze]

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In his interview with Piers for GMB, TM didn't once say, that Meghan had cut all contact. He was still spouting the 'improve my image' line. He was told, that Meghan and Harry wouldn't like him giving the interview, and TM said, the he hoped they would understand, 'his image'.

It was after that, maybe two weeks later, when he gave his interview to the Sun, the three part spectacle. That's when he first said, that he was cut contact.

TM is quite manipulative. He keeps saying, that he was cut contact because of the paparazzi pictures. He knows well, that it's not true, because in his latest interview with the mail, he said, that he knows Meghan didn't like him talking about her wanting children, but he doesn't really care, she has always talked about it, so why can't he. He knows fully well, that he was cut contact because he revealed private information Meghan had confided in him about, but he wants to be the victim so bad. So he brings up the fake paparazzi pictures as the reason he was cut contact.

[alvinking]

Originally Posted by MARG

...Meanwhile, his daughter's coat of arms is published and Mr Thomas Markle, ostensible head of the house, did not receive one.

Long before the wedding, it was obvious that Mr Thomas Markle would not receive a coat of arms and it was by his family own doing (Samantha and Tom Jr)
If he had received a coat of arms, all his kids would have been entitled legally to use it.

Can you imagine Thomas Markle Junior affixing the coat of arms of the Duchess of Sussex onto the packages of his marijuana business as marketing ploy?

Why should Samantha have the right to use a coat of arms after having spent 2 years trying to destroy the relationship of Meghan, with a lot of racist undertones, attacking Doria in her twitter posts, and trying her best to make sure the mariage do not happen. And now afterward she get to use and benefit from the coat of arms,

Sorry but the was never going to happen

[alvinking]

One thing for sure, with this family from hell, the next European royalty will think really hard and twice before marrying another american unless their backgrounds are fully vetted. Who would want this kind of mess in their lives?

[Cocoasneeze]

Originally Posted by alvinking

One thing for sure, with this family from hell, the next European royalty will think really hard and twice before marrying another american unless their backgrounds are fully vetted. Who would want this kind of mess in their lives?

As it has been pointed out many times, born and bred brits have caused much more harm to the BRF, than the markles have.

[Osipi]

Originally Posted by alvinking

Long before the wedding, it was obvious that Mr Thomas Markle would not receive a coat of arms and it was by his family own doing (Samantha and Tom Jr)
If he had received a coat of arms, all his kids would have been entitled legally to use it.

Can you imagine Thomas Markle Junior affixing the coat of arms of the Duchess of Sussex onto the packages of his marijuana business as marketing ploy?

Why should Samantha have the right to use a coat of arms after having spent 2 years trying to destroy the relationship of Meghan, with a lot of racist undertones, attacking Doria in her twitter posts, and trying her best to make sure the mariage do not happen. And now afterward she get to use and benefit from the coat of arms,

Sorry but the was never going to happen

First and foremost, Thomas Markle, Sr. doesn't have a coat of arms because he didn't apply for one in the first place. Coat of arms are not endowed by the Queen (on the recommendation of the government) like a knighthood but rather there's a process one goes through with the College of Arms. Michael Middleton had to apply and go through the process and then the Queen approves it. Not having a coat of arms doesn't have anything to do with Tom, Sr.'s children either.

Just like the son claiming that Tom, Sr. should be given a royal title, moaning that they do not get to share a coat of arms because Meghan married into the family, it just goes to highlight how little the Markles really know of how things work in the British monarchy. S'ok though. Most Americans don't.

These things just show how the Markles think that because of Meghan, they are entitled also. This is the delusion these people have and want to "cash in" on.

[Madame Verseau]

Dad is talking to the press again

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mir...d-13040035.amp

Given the backlash he got from the press and public because of the DM interview Sr is in damage control. Note the article is putting out all he did for Meghan, things she has said about him and that he wants to make peace. I still don't understand why he went to the Fail, the tabloid that busted him for the staged pap pictures.

[O-H Anglophile]

Originally Posted by Madame Verseau

Dad is talking to the press again

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mir...d-13040035.amp

I think that’s just a new article using the same old stories-I don’t see where the Mirror is claiming another interview.

[Chloep]

If people don't want to support vile tabloids with their clicks, please use this link to read the story:

Meghan Markle's 'complex' relationship with her estranged dad laid bare - in her own brutally honest words - Mirror Online