The Duchess of Sussex: Family and Background - Page 82

Madame Verseau · #**1621** 08-05-2018, 09:28 PM

Sam just told the Sun KP didn't reach out to Dad

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbi...contacted-dad/

The meet story may have been a test to see if Dad or the half sibs would run to the press; and true to form Sam did in under 24 hours. By admitting Dad told her there was no outreach from KP Sam proved he will blab private details again and Sam will sell the story. They both walked into it. Meghan has no reason to talk to him now. Dad can forget being in the christening pictures of Harry and Meghan's firstborn.

Sturf · #**1622** 08-05-2018, 09:37 PM

There was a credible source quote at the time of the wedding mess that Meghan's relationship with him had always been strained because if his ill-thoughtout decisions and lack of responsibility. Those proved to be prophetic words post-wedding. Meghan did have phone and e-mail contact with her father and shared positive stories about his influence on her. Her father has also now not been present for the biggest milestones of her adult life when her mother has including both weddings and her UN speech. And no evidence that despite his pride in her career, which he could credit to his own guidance, that he ever visited her in Toronto over a seven year period. It can be easier to maintain some relationships and have positive thoughts when there is the security of geographic distance.

Dman · #**1623** 08-05-2018, 09:37 PM

Something is going on behind the scenes-
https://mobile.twitter.com/RoyalRepo...92083432574976

M. Payton · #**1624** 08-05-2018, 09:44 PM

The Markle's are *true to form*.........

as expected!

Wonder if Harry and Meghan called Richard up and gave him all the info so that it could be put out there for all to see and read......

yep, that is the story now......Meghan is inviting dad to live in BP with the Queen and HM thinks it is a great idea............

, Oh Osipi those *Pink Pigs* are really having a workout today.....

Marlo · #**1625** 08-05-2018, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Zaira

Wait, Sam has a publicist????? Oy vey.

Yes, she hired a publicist 2-3 weeks ago.

M. Payton · #**1626** 08-05-2018, 09:54 PM

My goodness so telling lies, making up stories and bashing her step-sister and then in cahoots with dad who tells all to the media and lies and betrays his daughter is now a very profitable business that she hires outside help.......

this gets funnier then ever as time goes by......

Missy- · #**1627** 08-05-2018, 09:58 PM

To paraphrase the immortal Sonny and Cher, and the beat goes on.

Just another of the hundreds of click bait stories that you all comment on, share, re-post, etc. that keep the media machine humming right along. They'll never turn on the Markles, not for years anyway, why would they kill the geese that are laying them golden eggs? The media has no scruples and a voracious appetite for dirt as long as it keeps getting the click$.

Kataryn · #**1628** 08-05-2018, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Missy-

To paraphrase the immortal Sonny and Cher, and the beat goes on.

Just another of the hundreds of click bait stories that you all comment on, share, re-post, etc. that keep the media machine humming right along. They'll never turn on the Markles, not for years anyway, why would they kill the geese that are laying them golden eggs? The media has no scruples and a voracious appetite for dirt as long as it keeps getting the click$.

Was just at the DF website and saw that in the same time Sam's story about Meghan not coming to the US got 197 shares, a sweet little (non-) story about Mia Tindall got around 500 and the "top" story more than 2500. Talk about people interested in Samatha Grant's stuff....

Zaira · #**1629** 08-05-2018, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Marlo

Yes, she hired a publicist 2-3 weeks ago.

Lord help us.

ACO · #**1630** 08-05-2018, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by soapstar

At the end of the day, this is Meghan's decision. None of us know how she really feels, or what is going on behind the scenes regarding her family. If she feels that meeting her father and working on their relationship is the best solution, then so be it. Folks may not like it, but it's not our relationship. This is between Meghan and her dad.

Agreed. And the same if she doesn't. People have to stop trying to force it on her. At the end of the day only Meghan knows what is best for her. She knows her family. She will handle how she sees fit.

Not surprised Samantha is denying the story. She is the Markle mouthpiece these days. And she even commented on Palmer's tweet basically calling the story BS and attacked Meghan, again. Also her new publicist works with The Mirror?

That explains it all.

**Zonk** · #**1631** 08-05-2018, 11:55 PM

A couple of quick thoughts....

1) Samantha's tweet in reference to Harry and Meghan retreating shows that she has no idea how the BRF works. Though to be fair, why should she? Until Meghan married into the BRF, unless she was like us and had a royal interest, she would have no idea that the BRF tends to "disappear" during the month of August. So if she thinks that Harry and Meghan are retreating because of the "heat" brought on by the Markle's she has another thing coming.

2) Calling her sister Cruelle de Ville is so Samantha and again, shows more about her than Meghan.

3) Which reminds me...she is so intent on Meghan calling their father for his birthday and Father's Day...makes me wonder if Samantha has called ANY of her kids for their bithday and did she wish Roslyn a Happy Mother's Day.

4) At the end of the day, we don't know the intricacies of Meghan's relationship with her father. She is on record several times saying that she had strained relationship with her father. That doesn't mean that she didn't/doesn't love him. You can love someone and still realize that they are toxic in your life and keep them at arm's length.

5) I do think Harry should have met Thomas Sr., in the beginning but correct me if I am wrong, haven' the Sussex's attempted to see Thomas? Didn't he acknowledge that and say he said, we can get together later?

6) Someone needs to let Samantha know, just because something is reported in the papers (especially the British tabloids with no name attached to it) doesn't make it so. Now, she is saying its a PR Stunt? Whose stunt?

Someone is over playing their hand and is not Meghan.

And its not going to bet better while Meghan and Harry are in Australia.

M. Payton · #**1632** 08-06-2018, 12:13 AM

Zonk:

I agree with you on all your points yet the thing is, Sam keeps saying the *same song* over and over again in a hundred different ways.......same song and dance now for how long? This person is bent on causing trouble any which way she can, nothing is off limits with her. If anything Meghan has given her indirectly everything she has at this point, money, has the media in her pocket so she thinks, on the world stage, name is now very well know, maybe a stunt on a TV show (regardless of the type of show), and now reported she *hired* a publicist of all things.......all this came about by bashing her step-sister for without Meghan she is nothing and would have nothing.

How can it get worse when Harry and Meghan go down under, more interviews, more lies, more gossip, haven't we all here seen and read all that she has spewed out of her mouth so what, more the same when they are off working for the family...... it is the tabloids that are keeping this alive and trying to *force* Meghan into something that will quickly backfire on her big time....I think the way KP/BP and the royal family are handling this by not giving them a word is the very best policy for all concerned here.

Osipi · #**1633** 08-06-2018, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Madame Verseau

Sam just told the Sun KP didn't reach out to Dad

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbi...contacted-dad/

The meet story may have been a test to see if Dad or the half sibs would run to the press; and true to form Sam did in under 24 hours. By admitting Dad told her there was no outreach from KP Sam proved he will blab private details again and Sam will sell the story. They both walked into it. Meghan has no reason to talk to him now. Dad can forget being in the christening pictures of Harry and Meghan's firstborn.

The biggest dead to rights giveaway that this meeting will never happen comes from Samantha's own mouth. She states "I talk to my dad every day". We know why. Do we really think that Tom, Sr. Meghan and Harry could meet and work things out and Tom *not* tell Sam everything? Do we really think that Meghan would give Tom a personal contact number and have him keep it confidential?

I think I just heard that portcullis slam down even harder now and fresh piranhas are added to the moat.

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Originally Posted by Zonk

6) Someone needs to let Samantha know, just because something is reported in the papers (especially the British tabloids with no name attached to it) doesn't make it so. Now, she is saying its a PR Stunt? Whose stunt?

Oh most definitely, according to Sam, this is a ploy by Meghan to make herself look better. This is how she'll twist it and turn it to make it look like Daddy Dearest is being used like a pawn in a game of chess. That thought would easily come to her because that's exactly what she, herself, is doing.

Princess · #**1634** 08-06-2018, 01:32 AM

She called her Cruella? Seriously? Wow, what a creative woman little Samantha is

Insecurity and ignorance are those things a human being bears least

Kataryn · #**1635** 08-06-2018, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Dman

Listen,

I know I’m alone on the forums in thinking that Mr. Markle and Meghan and Harry should sit down and talk things out and come to some understandings, but it’s the only way I can think of calming the Markle Debacle down and putting it in the past.

Now perhaps these talks could involve Sam and Tom Jr., but I’m just focusing on Meghan’s dad at the moment.

Of course I could be totally wrong here.

At the moment Meghan's Dad is trying to force his way to his daughter through all means and I don't think this is the right time to talk to him. He will see it as a victory for his strategy and I don't see him change his tactics when they have proven to work.

Plus the tabloids will feel victorious, too, and not cease to go after Meghan. So she can only loose, for even if her father promises her everything, as soon as Sam gets her claws in him again he will see everything again her way and not stop.

I think it will take quite some time for the Markles to learn that the media is not interested in them, only in their chance to get attention from Meghan, that the publishers are much better off to make a truce with Harry than support the Markles in the long-term.

My personal guess is that Meghan has been through this already when it came to pay her father's debt (she would still be handling over her personal wealth if she started it, IMHO) and be used and abused by her father's first family. She knows the only chance is to cut them all off till they accept that she won't relent and then try to make some sort of peace with them without giving them the means to sell her out again to the media.

I'm so glad she led an impeccable life (apart from her divorce) before Harry and that her choices in men turn out to be fine. That her first husband is a gentleman after all and that with Harry she'll have a HEA.

Cocoasneeze · #**1636** 08-06-2018, 03:45 AM

I agree with everything you wrote, zonk, except the first part.

Samantha is acting like she has some insider knowledge on the BRF, Diana etc, when she's extremely ignorant, and it's embarrassing for her. She keeps saying how Diana this and Diana that, when a very quick google search would prove her completely wrong.

Samantha and TM think that their tweets and interviews have any effect on the RF and even Harry and Meghan. They don't. And each tweet they send and interview they give, they show their hand more and more.

Madame Verseau · #**1637** 08-06-2018, 07:05 AM

If Sam is trying to discredit the Palmer tweet she realized the Sun interview confirmed Dad will spill the beans about the reunion and she just blew the big score: access to the platinum life of a royal. Dad may not be too happy with his firstborn right now so Sam is desperately trying to clean up the new mess she just made. The publicist Sam just hired is useless; if he was any good this Sun interview would not have happened.

ACO · #**1638** 08-06-2018, 07:33 AM

Samantha definitely overplaying her hand. All she does is confirm why Meghan walked away. She said "Meghan's word against ours" as if that really means something when she rants her feelings every day. We haven't heard from Meghan. All we have seen her do is live her life.

Thomas and Samantha have become a little duo. You can tell this is everything to Samantha and she never passes an opportunity by to yell how much attention "the daddy" has finally tossed her way after likely begging for it for decades. That is the source of her animosity.

I think Samantha is happy Meghan has had this public fallout with Thomas. It is a 2 for 1 special. She gets their dad's attention and she gets to trash on Meghan. The joke on her is that the moment Meghan tosses him a bone is then Samantha will be tossed to the side... again. So this will never end.

Madame Verseau · #**1639** 08-06-2018, 07:47 AM

Sam was the mastermind of the staged pap pics so she and Dad have no credibility. Dad must really be mad at her for that interview.

jacqui24 · #**1640** 08-06-2018, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dman

Something is going on behind the scenes-
https://mobile.twitter.com/RoyalRepo...92083432574976

Richard Palmer isn’t one of those that has inside scoops. He basically reports on what is known or is often wrong. He defended that “racy” photos of Meghan used in the Cambridge case appeal to death, and well we saw what happened with that.