The Duchess of Sussex: Family and Background - Page 77

ACO · #**1521** 08-04-2018, 07:35 PM

The source is Morton. They make it pretty clear it is not KP. They covered themselves for a reason. I don't think Meghan, Harry, or any of them have any intentions of talking to Thomas. And Morton, Ingrid, and Piers can hope it all they want. I don't see it happening. Meghan is the one who knows this man. She will do what is best for her mental health.

M. Payton · #**1522** 08-04-2018, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ladongas

I hope this is true. She can’t/shouldn’t have to go the rest of her life without having some contact with her father. Taking the high road is the way to go. Whatever happens, at least she would have tried.

How does a person take the high road with an abusive member of your family, someone who has really worked to destroy your marriage, your life and shown such disrespect for your own person? And in public no less! Walking away and never looking back is the only way to deal with someone like that. Love has nothing to do with it at all, it is about trust and respect to be shown to all members of the family.....of which Sr has not done and has gone behind Meghan's back repeatedly in telling lies about her and following Samantha's advice it seems to me as she is the mouth piece of this despicable family.

jacqui24 · #**1523** 08-04-2018, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudolph

Meghan could be the source. There have been commentators who think Meghan should contact her dad. Not all of them tabloids. Ingrid Seward for one.

And why in the world would Meghan do such a thing? I highly doubt she gives a crap about what Ingrid Seward says, especially seeing how that's the woman that dismissed Meghan as nothing but a fling. Well, maybe she's right all the time in her observation of events and royals. OH WAIT! Most of the opinions have turned against Thomas Markle with the exception of few, some with their own obvious agenda like Piers Morgan.

Anyways, even if this was true, I think it's in danger now.

Bottom line is, I support Meghan in whatever way she decides to go with this. No one knows her father better than her. If she thinks he can't respect boundaries at all and cuts him off, I think it's entirely within reason. If she thinks she can still set some boundaries with him that he can follow as long as he doesn't feel desperate, she has to make that judgment call.

Terri Terri · #**1524** 08-04-2018, 08:53 PM

Why would Meghan leak anything to the British tabloids who from the very beginning has done eveything to insult, denigrate and bully her? In addition to them paying her father and half-siblings to destroy her? And knowing how Prince Harry feels about the media, I would think that Meghan would be undermining her own marriage by leaking details to the media! Harry lived through his parent's disastrous use of the media against each other so Meghan would be pretty stupid to try to use the media.

No one uses the media without a backlash. It happened to Diana. And it is now happening to the Markles.

American Observer7 · #**1525** 08-04-2018, 09:07 PM

I just read some of that article. I don't believe a word of it. It's the Mirror people! And it's a trashy rag!

Terri Terri · #**1526** 08-04-2018, 09:16 PM

The Sunday Times mentioned the potential visit as well.

American Observer7 · #**1527** 08-04-2018, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Terri Terri

The Sunday Times mentioned the potential visit as well.

It was probably copied from somewhere. Why would and how would this get leaked if this were true? Harry is VERY protective of his wife! And I highly doubt he would allow her to see him alone.

jacqui24 · #**1528** 08-04-2018, 09:45 PM

While I agree that Harry is very protective of Meghan, this isn't his decision. It's hers. His role in this is to support her in whatever decision she makes, which I suspect he does.

XeniaCasaraghi · #**1529** 08-04-2018, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ladongas

I hope this is true. She can’t/shouldn’t have to go the rest of her life without having some contact with her father. Taking the high road is the way to go. Whatever happens, at least she would have tried.

This is downright ridiculous. She talks to her father then the bullying of her family wins and they run to talk more to the media. And what's going to stop them from doing it again when money runs low.

Not only has Snr badmouthed her but also the Queen, Harry, Doria's, and used Diana's death to get headlines. These are all people important to Meghan and he has trashed them.

Madame Verseau · #**1530** 08-04-2018, 10:17 PM

I think this a set up. There may have been some outreach by Megan to Dad to test him, to see if news with details get leaked to the press. Leave two dates open towards the end of the month is too specific of a detail. Either Dad or one of the half sibs snitched. That's strike three. If a meeting does goes down it won't be with Meghan it will be with palace intermediaries, armed with proof of collusion to weaponize the media to shake down the BRF. Bonus points for proof on faking the heart attack. NDA to go away or this gets out. Dad takes the deal because he"s too vain.

Zaira · #**1531** 08-04-2018, 10:20 PM

Roya tends to be on it although she has gotten some big things wrong. But I tend to find her reporting more substantive than not.

So, it wouldn't surprise me IF someone from KP did a "leak test" with Tom about a *possible* meeting to see if Tom would then go to the higher bidder with the info. I do not think Roya would report it unless she got from a decent source. I think the way its couched is still very speculative which gives cover to both sides if it doesn't happen.

With that said, I do think Meghan will be back in LA this month to visit her mom.

Marlo · #**1532** 08-04-2018, 10:34 PM

Roya's sources are former royal aides. How do they know?

Fros · #**1533** 08-04-2018, 10:41 PM

If you read the article it seems more like a Tom Sr. leaks than a KP leak. It's says Tom was asked to keep 2 days clear in his schedule this month around the time Meghan plans to visit UK.

A trip to the US has been rumoured in the press but nothing has been confirmed. The details are much heavier on Tom's side than Meghan's.

I honestly would not be surprised if perhaps someone from KP approached Tom for very initial talks about seeing his daughter as a test. Considering this meeting is on the front of the MIRROR which is one of his favourite newspapers to work with I would say he failed the test.

American Observer7 · #**1534** 08-04-2018, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jacqui24

While I agree that Harry is very protective of Meghan, this isn't his decision. It's hers. His role in this is to support her in whatever decision she makes, which I suspect he does.

It has nothing to do with it being her decision or not. And that is not the point.

AlowVera · #**1535** 08-04-2018, 11:32 PM

I think from a strategic point of view leaking about a potential meeting takes the sail out of the story. To me it makes the ongoing ratcheting of one sided aggression seem like yesterdays news. I think it best for KP to remain firm but offer Sr. a soft escape. I also think the ongoing escalation and aggression while bad for Sr. it is a negative for KP because they are not in control of the narrative.

Strategically I would rule in favor of a benevolent yet firm resolution to this story.

Madame Verseau · #**1536** 08-04-2018, 11:46 PM

Even if there were a meeting Meghan would not be in the room alone. The RPOs would be with her or be nearby. Dad won't like it out of fear they would record what was said, but he would have to "get over it".

The other reason the article seems like a trap for Pops it mentioned the half sibs will not be in the room and Dad has pushed for a family reunion. That fine detail made it in the papers.

Fros · #**1537** 08-05-2018, 01:26 AM

If we are all honest with ourselves I think we were all expecting some sort of stunt from the Markles after Meghan's appearence at the wedding.

KP wouldn't purposefully leak this information right after her appearance because it would result in having to share coverage with the Markles which they would never want. Associating them together on a good a PR day and especially her birthday I don't think it's KP.

We simply have to wait. Sam or Tom will have some reaction if it's not from their side but I definitely think it is their side regardless of Roya reporting on it.

Kataryn · #**1538** 08-05-2018, 01:31 AM

The tabloids are so trying to recreate the situation after Diana's death, when they forced the queen and the princes back to London, when it would have been in the best interest of the boys to stay in Balmoral. Harry was the victim then, now is his wife.
IMHO they are trying to navigate that situation for the future. Meghan wants to return to LA to see her mother and her other friendly relatives. She can imagine how the media is to cover this if she is not seeing her father then. Plus she will probably try for one last time to explain her side to him in the hope he will stop blabbing.

If I was in that situation, I'll date the meeting at the end of the stay, so the media hopefully stays off comments about seeing her mother and not her father. During the meeting I'd ask my father to stop talking to the media out of respect for my privacy. I'd even offer to give him some money. If he keeps quiet over that, I'd try it again with him for the last time. If not, I'd make a public statement about my reasons, that I had tried another time, betrayed another time and that this is all I am willing to do in the future and that I'm sad, but that's that. I would even add a sentence like: there are three in my relationship with my father, so it's a bit too crowded for me.

M. Payton · #**1539** 08-05-2018, 01:55 AM

Why does it seem everyone all of a sudden is wanting Meghan to talk to her father? This is outrageous behavior on his part, he talked to the media *BEHIND* Meghan's back, he talked about personal info and made fun of Harry and the royal family, he BETRAYED his daughter time and time again here and we read it and saw it......he threatened his daughter and lied about her.....good grief what am I missing here.......*A person does NOT endorse and accept this type of behavior from anyone even a family member period* This is not about love of a parent, this is about the BROKEN TRUST that a parent did to their child and no child should ever make amends with someone like that for that is so against their mental health.

I saw pictures today of Meghan like you all did, she looked radiant, happy, in love and complete at ease in her life.......this is not the picture of a woman suffering in her marriage that Sr says........how would be know, he is not in contact with her by her choice and that is the problem here, he wants contact to what, see HM, to be treated like Trump was when he was there, to have money given to him and access so that he can do another interview with the weasel on TV........gads I hope Meghan never see or talks to him again, if she does then she must accept the consequences of her actions like Sr should and doesn't. Let the Markels yell, complain, give all the interview they want for what can they tell anyone, NOTHING for they are cut off for their betrayal of Meghan and they did it time and time again and again......would anyone here trust Sr or Sam...........I sure would not for all the money in the world.

Princess · #**1540** 08-05-2018, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by M. Payton

Why does it seem everyone all of a sudden is wanting Meghan to talk to her father?

Because it's pretty boring when the stories begin to have a long beard and nothing new comes up

Why should she talk to anyone? Her "family" is having a major league strikeout. Just lean back and let Karma work.