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Old 07-29-2018, 08:43 AM
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Thomas has himself said, in his own interviews, that he was offered help by Meghan, Harry, they had palace aides assigned to him, he just had to call. Harry was legally pressuring the press and paparazzi to back off of Thomas. The paparazzi were laughing at this, because everyone knew, that he was working with paparazzi.

When Thomas decided to pull out of the wedding, he was ignoring Meghan's calls and texts, while he was contacting TMZ, and telling them what Meghan was writing in her texts to him. Then a month later he schemed with Piers Morgan, behind Meghan's back, to give an interview, in which he went into detail why he thought her first marriage ended, when and how soon she wants children, and about their conversations about Harry, and his conversations with Harry. He KNEW, that it would hurt Meghan, but by his own words, he hoped she'd get over it.

THEN he went to give another interview, where he said, that Meghan looks unhappy, her smile is fake, she's not enjoying her life. He was also upset, that he's not allowed to make money through his daughter's position as a new royal. He said, that he won't stop talking to the press, and Meghan just needs to get over it and call him.

Now in this interview he goes IN. Meghan is ungrateful, he paid for her education, he collected her from school when she was little, he made her what she is now, and only Doria is getting praise, not him. (I have to add, that Meghan has praised her father publicly, in interviews, multiple times over the years). He is saying, that Meghan needs to be kinder to her half sister, who has publicly trashed Meghan from October 2016. Meghan has never said anything, good or bad, about her half-sister, in public.

Thomas is not some poor man thrust into this situation. He's a mentally abusive parent, who is publicly trying to destroy, humiliate and 'put in her place' his daughter, because she doesn't want him talking about her to the press.
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Old 07-29-2018, 08:51 AM
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I think Ingrid Seward (editor of Majesty Magazine) offers us an alternative opinion on the subject that has foresight about how far this story would go:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle...ectid=12097494
She sounds ridiculous. This woman basically telling someone to ignore all the awful things someone has said and done because they are blood. That is not how it works. We don't know these people. Maybe Meghan's olive branch after years of this crap was the wedding. That was the biggest moment of her life and he crapped all over it. We all saw it and we have seen his actions since. Yet she is suppose to roll over and accept it? Give me a damn break. Ingrid, please get a clue.
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Old 07-29-2018, 08:52 AM
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He doesn't want the advice and realities any palace advisers would give him. Their advice would go against his own agenda.

1) He wants to make a profit out of Meghan and the RF.

2) He wants to speak to the press about Meghan and the RF.

So, as of now, he will give interviews, trash Meghan, Doria, Harry, the Queen and anyone he feels like trashing, and Meghan is best to ignore him. What Ingrid Stewarts thinks bares no weight on anything, this is just her opinion, and that's all. As far as I have seen, Mr Markle's actions have brought a lot of sympathy Meghan's way, and a lot people see this for the abuse it is.
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Old 07-29-2018, 09:06 AM
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Thomas has himself said, in his own interviews, that he was offered help by Meghan, Harry, they had palace aides assigned to him, he just had to call. Harry was legally pressuring the press and paparazzi to back off of Thomas. The paparazzi were laughing at this, because everyone knew, that he was working with paparazzi.

When Thomas decided to pull out of the wedding, he was ignoring Meghan's calls and texts, while he was contacting TMZ, and telling them what Meghan was writing in her texts to him. Then a month later he schemed with Piers Morgan, behind Meghan's back, to give an interview, in which he went into detail why he thought her first marriage ended, when and how soon she wants children, and about their conversations about Harry, and his conversations with Harry. He KNEW, that it would hurt Meghan, but by his own words, he hoped she'd get over it.

THEN he went to give another interview, where he said, that Meghan looks unhappy, her smile is fake, she's not enjoying her life. He was also upset, that he's not allowed to make money through his daughter's position as a new royal. He said, that he won't stop talking to the press, and Meghan just needs to get over it and call him.

Now in this interview he goes IN. Meghan is ungrateful, he paid for her education, he collected her from school when she was little, he made her what she is now, and only Doria is getting praise, not him. (I have to add, that Meghan has praised her father publicly, in interviews, multiple times over the years). He is saying, that Meghan needs to be kinder to her half sister, who has publicly trashed Meghan from October 2016. Meghan has never said anything, good or bad, about her half-sister, in public.

Thomas is not some poor man thrust into this situation. He's a mentally abusive parent, who is publicly trying to destroy, humiliate and 'put in her place' his daughter, because she doesn't want him talking about her to the press.

Last week he told TeeMZ that the half sister should stop attacking Meghan. Is noone in the press actually keeping up with the weekly flipflops and ever changing narrative.


It should also be noted that Sr. told Harry and Meghan not to visit. Yet the only thing the press hears is the abuse he hurls at Meghan.


We need an article itemizing the help that has been offered to TM for reference.


TM knows that because of who he is he has the privilege to lie in plain sight because the media hates who Meghan is more than they hate TM.
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Old 07-29-2018, 09:06 AM
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Do not shoot the messenger. It are Meghan's very own next of kin who are sabotaging her. Not the media...
Actually, when the media is actively seeking out the people that they know is unreliable and have no new information, but just lashing out for sensationalism, they ARE responsible for giving them the platform. There is no reason for them to have people in Mexico right now. There is no secret that Tom Markle has no access after what has transpired. Continue to print his threats to his daughter is helping him threatening her.
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Old 07-29-2018, 09:13 AM
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He doesn't want the advice and realities any palace advisers would give him. Their advice would go against his own agenda.

1) He wants to make a profit out of Meghan and the RF.

2) He wants to speak to the press about Meghan and the RF.

So, as of now, he will give interviews, trash Meghan, Doria, Harry, the Queen and anyone he feels like trashing, and Meghan is best to ignore him. What Ingrid Stewarts thinks bares no weight on anything, this is just her opinion, and that's all. As far as I have seen, Mr Markle's actions have brought a lot of sympathy Meghan's way, and a lot people see this for the abuse it is.
Why in the world would Tom, Sr. want to seek out and take advice given to him by the palace or anyone remotely close to Meghan when he has his darling, attentive and caring oldest daughter on the phone with him every day gently steering him in the right direction on how to stand up for himself and be heard?

Its come to the point where its no longer actually Tom, Sr. laying it on the line all by himself but has been taken in hook, line and sinker by his very own Cyrano lurking in the shadows.
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Old 07-29-2018, 09:41 AM
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I think Harry thanks God everyday that if Meghan had to have such toxic relatives, at least they are pretty stupid on showing their hands so openly. It won't last long till the last reader of the DF or other tabloids has realised that this has nothing to do with Meghan personally, but with the bad character of her relatives. For I cannot believe those Britons who don't like Meghan for whatever reasons like her relatives because of shared animosity... They are tasteless, greedy and in a way so typical for the cliché of the "ugly American".
Its possible that people who dislike Meghan are willing to believe some of what her family say. It is pretty extraordinary for a family to publicly attack a member in this way...
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Old 07-29-2018, 09:46 AM
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Actually, when the media is actively seeking out the people that they know is unreliable and have no new information, but just lashing out for sensationalism, they ARE responsible for giving them the platform. There is no reason for them to have people in Mexico right now. There is no secret that Tom Markle is no access after what has transpired. Continue to print his threats to his daughter is helping him threatening her.
Absolutely. And if something horrible happens they will bend over backwards to distance themselves from the monster they created. History proves it. This man literally hurled a threat at Meghan and the rest of the royal family. It is in print on their website. Just saying.
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Old 07-29-2018, 09:53 AM
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Its possible that people who dislike Meghan are willing to believe some of what her family say. It is pretty extraordinary for a family to publicly attack a member in this way...
Very true.
People generally believe what they want to believe.

But I think most people will be fair-minded, and consider the source.
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Old 07-29-2018, 10:15 AM
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This is why I said that Mr. Markle needs some serious help. Iyanla Vanzant would give him some very tough love. She would get to the bottom of what’s really going on here.
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Old 07-29-2018, 10:24 AM
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This is why I said that Mr. Markle needs some serious help. Iyanla Vanzant would give him some very tough love. She would get to the bottom of what’s really going on here.
What’s going on is quite simple. This is a man in his sunset years and a shell of what he used to be. He spent many years working a very busy career, and now that is gone. He all of sudden is faced with finding something else that makes him feel important. He used to be able to brag about his daughter who was obviously a high achiever from when she was very young and has found success (people in Rosarita that has dealt with has talked about how he talks about Meghan, but never his two older kids to a point where they thought he only had one child until this came out). Now that daughter has moved on to bigger and better things, and he’s not a part of it thanks for his own doing.

And I’m sure it made him feel left out and very unimportant when he didn’t attend the wedding and it went on without a hitch. Without him. Nothing quite shows an insecure person how little they matter by seeing things go off seamlessly with or without them. This whole mess is about him needing to feel important. What he is most pissed about is that he hasn’t gotten a reaction from anyone. What he doesn’t understand is that he has broken the circle of trust and his daughter has to close ranks.
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Old 07-29-2018, 10:29 AM
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What’s going on is quite simple. This is a man in his sunset years and a shell of what he used to be. He spent many years working a very busy career, and now that is gone. He all of sudden is faced with finding something else that makes him feel important. He used to be able to brag about his daughter who was obviously a high achiever from when she was very young and has found success (people in Rosarita that has dealt with has talked about how he talks about Meghan, but never his two older kids to a point where they thought he only had one child until this came out). And I’m sure it made him feel left out and very unimportant when he didn’t attend the wedding and it went on without a hitch. Without him. Nothing quite shows an insecure person how little they matter by seeing things go off seamlessly despite them. This whole mess is about him needing to feel important.
How sad is his sense of self worth, that he would've felt 'better' for the lack of a better word, had Meghan looked troubled on her wedding day. The fact, that he had to run to TMZ, because the wedding and Meghan didn't NEED him to be a success. He had to be the centre of attention, he wasn't, so he was going to go and get that attention.
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Old 07-29-2018, 10:30 AM
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Yet she does not have what he *wants* and he is proving his *needs* come first in his life.....money, contact info with the BRF, access to Meghan and for Meghan to be the little girl that obeyed him when she was a child.....everything else is not going to work on this man....just take a very good look at his pictures tells me what kind of person he really is.....his character is showing loud and clear......so IMHO.....stay as far away from this person as possible as I am beginning to think he is loosing it and could be going in a direction that is dangerous to those around him.....just how many interviews can Sr keep giving like this when there is NOTHING new to report from Meghan or anyone in the royal family. He is now in the dungeon with the doors locked tight and that right there is the driving force of his rants......and so far No One is responding to him........that alone is giving his ego grounds to go off and do whatever....no one is stroking the ego here........His needs must be met first is all that matters right now.....
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Old 07-29-2018, 10:34 AM
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This is why I said that Mr. Markle needs some serious help. Iyanla Vanzant would give him some very tough love. She would get to the bottom of what’s really going on here.
Ummmm.... no. Therapists to the stars and television psychiatrists are most definitely not conductive to "sorting out" Mr. Markle. He would only consent to it anyways if it garnered him more publicity and attention with the public.

Mr. Markle is in full capacity of his wits and knows exactly what he is doing and what his agenda is at the moment. No one is going to "fix" him and make him into being something he's not. He may not like some of the stuff that is being said about him at this time by sources such as Sharon Osbourne who has never met the man but that is to be expected. When you dish out crapola like the Markles have been doing, they have to be prepared to withstand the fallout that will come with it.

Nobody needs to "do" anything about Mr. Markle. The less attention the man receives at this time, the better.
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And I’m sure it made him feel left out and very unimportant when he didn’t attend the wedding and it went on without a hitch. Without him. Nothing quite shows an insecure person how little they matter by seeing things go off seamlessly with or without them. This whole mess is about him needing to feel important. What he is most pissed about is that he hasn’t gotten a reaction from anyone. What he doesn’t understand is that he has broken the circle of trust and his daughter has to close ranks.
How many times has he complained about being a 'footnote'? Then all during the GMB interview he mentioned how it was about 'his image." Me me me me. That is literally what this is about. He feels that everything is about him and the fact the royals aren't giing him any attention has him throwing this abusive tantrum.
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Old 07-29-2018, 12:13 PM
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What’s going on is quite simple. This is a man in his sunset years and a shell of what he used to be. He spent many years working a very busy career, and now that is gone. He all of sudden is faced with finding something else that makes him feel important. He used to be able to brag about his daughter who was obviously a high achiever from when she was very young and has found success (people in Rosarita that has dealt with has talked about how he talks about Meghan, but never his two older kids to a point where they thought he only had one child until this came out). Now that daughter has moved on to bigger and better things, and he’s not a part of it thanks for his own doing.

And I’m sure it made him feel left out and very unimportant when he didn’t attend the wedding and it went on without a hitch. Without him. Nothing quite shows an insecure person how little they matter by seeing things go off seamlessly with or without them. This whole mess is about him needing to feel important. What he is most pissed about is that he hasn’t gotten a reaction from anyone. What he doesn’t understand is that he has broken the circle of trust and his daughter has to close ranks.
I think you may have analyzed this situation fairly well. And Samantha is playing on those feelings and getting her highs by masterminding the attacks on her more successful younger sister.
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Old 07-29-2018, 12:22 PM
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’He recently quit smoking after 50 years.

He has been accused of being an alcoholic but says: 'I hardly drink at all, just a little wine with my dinner, nothing much. I don't do drugs, haven't for more than 20 years.’

Thomas Markle says Meghan has cut him out of his life | Daily Mail Online
Hmm interesting. So he recently quit smoking, doesn’t drink much and hasn’t done ‘drugs’ for than 20 years. Or so he claims. Presumably he was doing drugs up until he was 54 or thereabouts, I’ve no idea. But he alluded to it. Poor Meghan.

From what I can gather people like that often expose those around them to their habits. They are liars, unreliable, untrustworthy, selfish, base and often struggle with financial management. Their children/child often feel guilt, are saddled with the emotional burdens of the afflicted parent and at times end up parenting the actual parent.

There are no records of this lottery win he talks about and I personally struggle to believe his claims that he solely funded Meghan’s private education right through Uni/College. Her mum worked and supported her too but we don’t hear her bleating about it. It’s not what normal parents do. Meghan’s praised her mum. And did likewise with her dad but was careful never to mention anything negative as she isn’t that kind of person. I’d say she probably went overboard with the praise to stroke his ego especially given the kind of individual she knows he is. The tantrums, the chaos, and betrayal. I doubt the Royals would want that around their children. There has to be a point when enough is enough.
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Old 07-29-2018, 12:41 PM
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I believe the lottery thing because without it Meghan’s lifestyle as a child through to college doesn’t add up.

Her father admits to making good money during his peak years but ‘good money’ is relative.
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Old 07-29-2018, 12:43 PM
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Lady R, totally agree with what you stated and each of us in whom we are is just that, we are each individuals and must survive as such for we are all we as a person has in life....we must take care of ourselves first and love ourselves first before we can do the same for another.....I really see with Meghan and Harry giving NO response to this situation that they have learned that lesson in life early on....
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I believe the lottery thing because without it, Meghan’s lifestyle as a child through to college doesn’t add up.

Her father admits to making good money during his peak years but ‘good money’ is relative.
Thomas was the lighting director on TWO long running insanely popular television shows. He was making quite a penny and certainly enough to to put her through school and go on vacations. People make way less than that and manage to do the same. Besides he even says whatever he won mostly went into a business deal gone bad. So clearly he wasn't concerned about money at the time prior to the win.

Thomas changes his story with every single interview.
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