The Duchess of Sussex: Family and Background

[jacqui24]

Originally Posted by Tarlita

I agree with you. Good comment. I find it hard to believe that Ingrid Seward is looking through rose coloured glasses at this mess.

Ingrid Seward is the type that sticks her finger in the air to see which way the wind is blowing today and go that way. I've seen her have to pretend like she didn't say the exact opposite in the past many times. She was one of the first to have dismissed Meghan as nothing but a short fling and note how Meghan and her profession is unworthy.

[CTchic]

Originally Posted by Tarlita

I agree with you. Good comment. I find it hard to believe that Ingrid Seward is looking through rose coloured glasses at this mess.

I don't Ingrid Seward has always been snobby towards Meghan. I don't think she cares a jot about the relationship between Meghan and the Markles. She cares about the monarchy and the fact that Snr evokes Diana and HM in his interviews in her view makes the monarchy look bad. She wants them to reconcile so that he stops talking to the press. I don't think that will happen.

Snr has shown himself to be a self entitled narcissist. I strikes me as the type to wear a wire to trap Meghan if they saw each other again or tap the phones for a conversation.

Horrible man and he came for Doria. He is deluded. Meghan had sung his praises in her social media and writings. What more does he want? Oh yes $$$$

[rominet09]

I see the titles in the tabloids but I HAVE STOPPED reading them.... they make me feel too bad for Meghan....

[CTchic]

I can't understand anyone still defending this man. He did all the things a parent is supposed to do and when his daughter needed him, he chickened out. A coward.

[Dman]

As I said before...this situation I should very personal and private between a daughter and her father. The media shouldn’t be involved in this private matter, but Mr. Markle isn’t going to the media about his strained relationship with Meghan. It’s the wrong thing to do, but if this personal matter isn’t resolved, this situation will get worse.

I agree with, Ingrid. It was a mistake that Harry and Thomas haven’t met face to face. Also, either Thomas should be making his way over to London or Meghan and Harry should be making their way over to see Thomas. As the movie and song title says: “Something’s Gotta Give.”
INGRID SEWARD on Thomas Markle and his relationship with Duchess of Sussex Meghan | Daily Mail Online

[jacqui24]

Originally Posted by Dman

As I said before...this situation I should very personal and private between a daughter and her father. The media shouldn’t be involved in this private matter, but Mr. Markle isn’t going to the media about his strained relationship with Meghan. It’s the wrong thing to do, but if this personal matter isn’t resolved, this situation will get worse.

I agree with, Ingrid. It was a mistake that Harry and Thomas haven’t met face to face. Also, either Thomas should be making his way over to London or Meghan and Harry should be making their way over to see Thomas. As the movie and song title says: “Something’s Gotta Give.”
INGRID SEWARD on Thomas Markle and his relationship with Duchess of Sussex Meghan | Daily Mail Online

You don't appease someone who has no qualms using spilling family matters to the media in order to punish his daughter. What happens the next time something doesn't go his way? You think he wouldn't do the same thing again?

[AliaAtreides]

This is emotional abuse. No parent who truly loves his child acts like this. He's actively trying to sabotage her relationship. What's the motive though? Is he really trying to have control over a 37 year old woman? Is it entitlement? (I deserve what she has). Whats his endgame, anyway? Just to create chaos so that he feels powerful? What a vile, disgusting man.

[CTchic]

Originally Posted by Dman

As I said before...this situation I should very personal and private between a daughter and her father. The media shouldn’t be involved in this private matter, but Mr. Markle isn’t going to the media about his strained relationship with Meghan. It’s the wrong thing to do, but if this personal matter isn’t resolved, this situation will get worse.

I agree with, Ingrid. It was a mistake that Harry and Thomas haven’t met face to face. Also, either Thomas should be making his way over to London or Meghan and Harry should be making their way over to see Thomas. As the movie and song title says: “Something’s Gotta Give.”
INGRID SEWARD on Thomas Markle and his relationship with Duchess of Sussex Meghan | Daily Mail Online

I disagree. Markle Snr has proven to be a liability. There are things that may have happened in the background that prevented them from meeting. I could see Snr changing his mind about meeting Harry. BTW, Harry and Meghan offered to meet with him after the wedding but HE REFUSED.

This is all on Snr. Meghan, Harry and KP gave as much help and advice as they could and he still went and collaborated with Samantha and the paps to sell out his daughter. HE IS SCUM and Meghan is well rid of him.

[Cocoasneeze]

This is emotional abuse. If Meghan doesn't want to, there's no reason for her to be in contact with Mr Markle, meet him or talk to him. He's publicly abusing his daughter, emotionally. He has no love or respect for her.

[JuliannaVictoria]

Originally Posted by Dman

As I said before...this situation I should very personal and private between a daughter and her father. The media shouldn’t be involved in this private matter, but Mr. Markle isn’t going to the media about his strained relationship with Meghan. It’s the wrong thing to do, but if this personal matter isn’t resolved, this situation will get worse.

I agree with, Ingrid. It was a mistake that Harry and Thomas haven’t met face to face. Also, either Thomas should be making his way over to London or Meghan and Harry should be making their way over to see Thomas. As the movie and song title says: “Something’s Gotta Give.”
INGRID SEWARD on Thomas Markle and his relationship with Duchess of Sussex Meghan | Daily Mail Online

I respect your opinion, but I completely disagree in this case. "You give a rat a cookie, they will later ask for some milk." You never negotiate with terrorists, and I find what her father and siblings doing to be emotional terrorism. Meghan did what you suggested after the first instance of him staging photographs, and how did he repay her, by blabbing to Piers Morgan and relaying private conversations. Lord only knows what he would do this time...probably wire tap the conversation and then sell it to the highest bidder.

[CTchic]

He also insanely jealous of Doria. She was widely praised at the wedding and the fact that she was in the official wedding pictures and met the rest of the royal family must have burned him.

[ACO]

Originally Posted by Dman

As I said before...this situation I should very personal and private between a daughter and her father. The media shouldn’t be involved in this private matter, but Mr. Markle isn’t going to the media about his strained relationship with Meghan. It’s the wrong thing to do, but if this personal matter isn’t resolved, this situation will get worse.

I agree with, Ingrid. It was a mistake that Harry and Thomas haven’t met face to face. Also, either Thomas should be making his way over to London or Meghan and Harry should be making their way over to see Thomas. As the movie and song title says: “Something’s Gotta Give.”
INGRID SEWARD on Thomas Markle and his relationship with Duchess of Sussex Meghan | Daily Mail Online

Completely disagree. Meghan would be foolish to trust anything with that man. He takes joy in hurting her. He all but admitted it. At this point he only cares about his ego. He angry that Meghan has a new man she leans on and a mother who has been 100% welcomed while he sits at home selling himself to the media.

[Tarlita]

We the members on this board forgave Markle snr at the beginning, believing him to be naive about the media and how they use people. He made many more mistakes leading up to the wedding any many of us on this forum were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
But he has since then consistently shown his true colours and admitted what he is all about, hence most of us distrust him completely now.
Perhaps if this thread were read through from the beginning you will see this.

My apologies for any bad spellings from my tablet and it's wretched auto correction. If I lived near an ocean it would be sitting at the bottom of it.

[Missy-]

Originally Posted by Rudolph

“Meghan was sent to exclusive private schools from kindergarten onwards and her father paid for her $30,000 (£23,000)-a-year tuition at Northwestern University, Illinois, with $750,000 winnings from a lottery.

He funded a teenage Meghan's expensive holidays abroad, including a visit to Britain, where she was photographed outside Buckingham Palace.

A proud man, he says he has never asked his daughter for a penny, despite suffering financial setbacks over the years and losing the vast majority of his lottery winnings in a bad business deal. He now supports himself on his pension and social security payments.“


Part of his upset seems to be that once Meghan started making her own money she never offered to help out her dad

I'm just going to leave this here and go back to sitting on my hands in the corner:

I think it goes deeper than that (in bold above), I think he's upset that he was forced by the State of California to subsidize Doria's ambitions for their daughter and Meghan's hi-end lifestyle up to the age of 18, after which they hardly saw anything of Meghan. I think that is the seed of this entire Dysfunctional family (with a capital D), Markle Sr had to support Meghan and Doria, who've lived in a little fantasy cocoon funded by daddy, who is now an embarrassment and a forgotten footnote in her life. JMO

[ACO]

Originally Posted by Missy-

I'm just going to leave this here and go back to sitting on my hands in the corner:

I think it goes deeper than that (in bold above), I think he's upset that he was forced by the State of California to subsidize Doria's ambitions for their daughter and Meghan's hi-end lifestyle up to the age of 18, after which they hardly saw anything of Meghan. I think that is the seed of this entire Dysfunctional family (with a capital D), Markle Sr had to support Meghan and Doria, who've lived in a little fantasy cocoon funded by daddy, who is now an embarrassment and a forgotten footnote in her life. JMO

Doria lived in a small apartment for years after she left Thomas. Not sure how he was giving them some grand lifestyle. He was not. He paid for her education. And as her FATHER he should have. He doesn't get a cookie for that.

Thomas is a bitter old man who has said publicly more than once that he should be treated like he is royalty. He hates that Doria was welcomed with open arms and was praised on the wedding day. That is on him. He could have been there but instead he took money from the press and embarrassed himself.

I don'y feel sorry for him whatsoever. He sounds just like Samantha and that says everything about the situation. He is an interview away from really saying something vile... he basically called her uppity. He very, very close.

[M. Payton]

Originally Posted by Tarlita

We the members on this board forgave Markle snr at the beginning, believing him to be naive about the media and how they use people. He made many more mistakes leading up to the wedding any many of us on this forum were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
But he has since then consistently shown his true colours and admitted what he is all about, hence most of us distrust him completely now.
Perhaps if this thread were read through from the beginning you will see this.

My apologies for any bad spellings from my tablet and it's wretched auto correction. If I lived near an ocean it would be sitting at the bottom of it.

I very much agree with your comment in every word, I for one was the same at the very beginning and then he broke something I believe in with my whole heart, there is a word that is the most important word in my life, **TRUST**once that is broken there is NO turning back ever. Meghan I honestly believe has seen that and with this latest tirade and including both Harry's and Meghan's mother is one of the most despicable acts that Markle Sr has said so far....he is blatantly using both mothers to get a reaction from Meghan or Harry or KP now for what else is there left for him to say or to attack Meghan with .....he is out and this is the way he is fighting back now to get that reaction........so please Harry and Meghan continue as you are and be very quiet and keep that drawbridge up!

[JuliannaVictoria]

Originally Posted by Missy-

I'm just going to leave this here and go back to sitting on my hands in the corner:

I think it goes deeper than that (in bold above), I think he's upset that he was forced by the State of California to subsidize Doria's ambitions for their daughter and Meghan's hi-end lifestyle up to the age of 18, after which they hardly saw anything of Meghan. I think that is the seed of this entire Dysfunctional family (with a capital D), Markle Sr had to support Meghan and Doria, who've lived in a little fantasy cocoon funded by daddy, who is now an embarrassment and a forgotten footnote in her life. JMO

This is speculation to the highest degree. And if the State of California required for him to pay Doria, it's called CHILD SUPPORT! He would only have to pay a portion of what he's earning. To also state that it was Meghan's mother's ambitions show people's bias. If Doria was ambitious as you state, then she would be cashing in just like the Markles, but no one could put that label on her, even though many here and elsewhere tried with the whole Oprah "interview" shenanigans.

Originally Posted by ACO

Doria lived in a small apartment for years after she left Thomas. Not sure how he was giving them some grand lifestyle. He was not. He paid for her education. And as her FATHER he should have. He doesn't get a cookie for that.

Thomas is a bitter old man who has said publicly more than once that he should be treated like he is royalty. He hates that Doria was welcomed with open arms and was praised on the wedding day. That is on him. He could have been there but instead he took money from the press and embarrassed himself.

I don'y feel sorry for him whatsoever. He sounds just like Samantha and that says everything about the situation. He is an interview away from really saying something vile... he basically called her uppity. He very, very close.

Precisely. Everything you just said and more. Also, completely agree with you that with every interview, he is spiralling, and he's really close to stepping into territory that he would not be able to come back from.

[AlowVera]

Originally Posted by ACO

Doria lived in a small apartment for years after she left Thomas. Not sure how he was giving them some grand lifestyle. He was not. He paid for her education. And as her FATHER he should have. He doesn't get a cookie for that.

Thomas is a bitter old man who has said publicly more than once that he should be treated like he is royalty. He hates that Doria was welcomed with open arms and was praised on the wedding day. That is on him. He could have been there but instead he took money from the press and embarrassed himself.

I don'y feel sorry for him whatsoever. He sounds just like Samantha and that says everything about the situation. He is an interview away from really saying something vile... he basically called her uppity. He very, very close.

High end lifestyle? she drove a beat up car to auditions in order to make money to go to school? how is that high end?

[jacqui24]

Originally Posted by Missy-

I'm just going to leave this here and go back to sitting on my hands in the corner:

I think it goes deeper than that (in bold above), I think he's upset that he was forced by the State of California to subsidize Doria's ambitions for their daughter and Meghan's hi-end lifestyle up to the age of 18, after which they hardly saw anything of Meghan. I think that is the seed of this entire Dysfunctional family (with a capital D), Markle Sr had to support Meghan and Doria, who've lived in a little fantasy cocoon funded by daddy, who is now an embarrassment and a forgotten footnote in her life. JMO

Subsidize? Seriously? Any child support he paid was legally deemed as his responsibility. And while Meghan went to good schools, she's hardly had a high end lifestyle until she became a self-made millionaire. Doria also worked during this time while they shared custody just like most families. Tom is a forgotten footnote because of his choices. Had he remained dignified, he would've been on the inner circle like he was prior to his tantrums in the media. This would've still happened even after he wrecked havoc on the week of his daughter's wedding. But he can't seem to stop digging. Meghan has ALWAYS given him credit for the things he's taught her. Obviously we all know no one is perfect, but Meghan wasn't the one airing dirty laundry in public.

BTW, I find it his comments about royal family being stuck in the past ironic given that he's the one with his foot stuck in his mouth constantly.

[CTchic]

Originally Posted by Missy-

I'm just going to leave this here and go back to sitting on my hands in the corner:

I think it goes deeper than that (in bold above), I think he's upset that he was forced by the State of California to subsidize Doria's ambitions for their daughter and Meghan's hi-end lifestyle up to the age of 18, after which they hardly saw anything of Meghan. I think that is the seed of this entire Dysfunctional family (with a capital D), Markle Sr had to support Meghan and Doria, who've lived in a little fantasy cocoon funded by daddy, who is now an embarrassment and a forgotten footnote in her life. JMO

High end lifestyle? Wow! Markle Snr is hardly a forgotten footnote in Meghan's upbringing. She has constantly praised him publicly. How is it just Doria's ambitions? You think he did not want the same things for Meghan? If he didn't, he would not have funded it. BTW, Doria did work and held down jobs so don't you dare erase her role in raising Meghan.

He himself said he did not ask for help from Meghan and knowing him, he would have refused the help just like he refused the help KP was giving him leading up to the wedding and instead worked with Samantha (she admitted as much in her tweets) those staged pictures.