The Duchess of Sussex: Family and Background

[Rhea6]

My heart goes out to Meghan and to a degree Harry . If we are so disgusted by the atrocious behaviour of the markles than just imagine what Meghan is going through right now !!!

She is a newly wed and instead of basking in the joy with her husband she has to day in and day out, wake up to see/hear horrible things said about her ! And the worst part is that she has to keep quiet and can’t do anything about it coz how else to tackle those loose cannons !!

The media is just a vulture !! They know that the Markles are bluffing yet they give them air and print time to cash in . Anything to show Meghan as the evil one !
They are treating Meghan the same way they did Diana !

Originally Posted by Rudolph

Meghan’s sister says “money makes the world go around”. She was on GMB this morning.

Samantha Markle admits 'cashing in' on Meghan's marriage to Prince Harry | Daily Mail Online

Pure evil !!!!

[Fros]

If it is not against the rules of this site, one thing we can do to continue discussing the Markles but also not giving the media the attention and clicks is if we can post screenshots of articles or if we can just copy and past the entire or relevant parts. So everyone can read the latest development in one place in this forum instead of everyone on this thread giving the site/story a click.

[Tarlita]

The General Public are not fools nor are they foolish. They want this marriage to work just as much as we do. And everybody by now realises how difficult it must be to learn a whole new culture and royal way of life. I bet my last chocolate bar that the public will be very understanding if Meghan makes mistakes. It is only the media that will try to blow things out of proportion. I am surprised that Piers is not more conciliatory toward Meghan after all he met her and they had a great chat for ninety minutes. He said he was a fan of the character Rachel and the show Suits. I just hope he sticks up for her more into the future instead of towing the tabloid line of heaping as much discourse as possible onto a royal.

By the way I take that back. You can't have my last chocolate bar.

I do like your idea Fros. However, it would probably be against Copyright laws to do so.

[MARG]

No. Just pure greed. For all the good or not so good in an ordinary family, the Markles have shown they are totally amoral, without a single redeeming feature in her father or half sister and brother.

Meghan was gifted a strong moral compass, decency and integrity by her mother, Doria and I am sure social anthropologists are having a field day trying to analyse this family.

It is like Meghan is the very antithesis of her father and siblings. This we know in her work ethic and humanitarian leanings.

I am sure Meghan finds it hard not to respond to them, but it can't be very easy for Harry to stand by and not try to protect the woman he loves from pain.

[rominet09]

I think they are right (Harry and Meghan) not to react publicly…. must b e hard to do but so very right…..

[Tarlita]

I agree with everything you say Marg.
It looks to me like Samantha is now enjoying herself. She has a pet project and she is kidding herself that it pays well.
One day soon I hope, the pay for spite will dry up and then perhaps we will have fewer headlines from Samantha. It will just be Twitter rants then I guess.

[Muhler]

Originally Posted by Fros

If it is not against the rules of this site, one thing we can do to continue discussing the Markles but also not giving the media the attention and clicks is if we can post screenshots of articles or if we can just copy and past the entire or relevant parts. So everyone can read the latest development in one place in this forum instead of everyone on this thread giving the site/story a click.

Unfortunately, that's not an option that would be practical. Links are for verification and in order to lend credit to what posters say.
However, we can write a summary to the links and then it will be up to people whether they wish to see for themselves by clicking on the link.

Originally Posted by Kataryn

I had wondered so much why the RF embraced Meghan so much directly after the engagement but now I think Meghan and Harry knre exactly how the Markles would react to the engagement, that the media would give them a platform and Harry's family closed their ranks around Meghan already as a fiancee. From the moment the engagement went public, Meghan was already protected within the fold, including her living in a Royal property with police guards and other security measures. It helped of course that the RF liked Meghan but the outstanding way the BRF made sure that Meghan is now a part of their family was so unusual, it made me wondering. Of course, now it is clear. They wanted to protect Meghan from her own family and made it possible for her to breathe freely. Does someone remember how hunted down Catherine was when she tried to live in London?


As for making missteps? Meghan surely has learned by now all about protocoll and knows how to rely on the staff of the RF. I don't think there will be any major scandals coming from her side.

I sincerely hope the BRF and their staff are learning from this and as such becoming better at dealing with all this.
So far they are going by the best approach possible at the moment IMO: No comments.

I believe H&M (in love and all that), the BRF and their staff have been taken aback at the boorish behavior of Meghan's relatives. The odd relative taking advantage of such a marriage and getting their fifteen minutes is one thing. But when it involves several members of the family and now also includes domestic disturbances, involving the police, then it becomes a family-trait!

However, we should always find something positive in everything.
The more her (estranged) family makes a spectacle of themselves, the more will understand and indeed hope and call for Meghan to cut of that branch of her family entirely and for good.
- That, according to comments I've read have been a favorite point her detractors have put up. I.e. that one really can't abandon your family! And blood is thicker than water. And do the decent things. And blah, blah...
Of course you can cut off your family, if they are silly.
Being family is no excuse for dragging your fellow family members down. - Which is IMO what her father, sister and brother is doing.

They are doing a stellar job in convincing Joe and Jolene public that the best thing for Meghan is to shut them off, and keep her door closed for good.
So while this does damage Meghan's image to some extent, it also helps her.
- So long as she does not make serious mistakes and she and Harry's relationship survives these first crucial years. The public sympathy can quickly turn to hostility, as you all know.

Having said all that. In regards to the foreign press. And here I mean the press outside USA, Britain, Commonwealth. - It's my clear impression that H&M has a very good press and also a good standing in the eyes of the foreign public. However, the antics of Meghan's family is faithfully reported and you almost have to live in cave in Tibet not to know at least a little about it!
And you can be sure other royal families are taking note and writing a reminder to also check the extended family of possible future spouses in the future, very carefully!

[O-H Anglophile]

On the other hand, there are also the niece Ashleigh (who is an attorney) and the nephew Christopher who don’t ever make the news, so Meghan does seem to have some paternal family members who are not pond scum.
But yeah, if she had to have tacky relatives, it would have been nicer for Meghan if they were far distant cousins.

[Kataryn]

Originally Posted by Rudolph

Meghan’s sister says “money makes the world go around”. She was on GMB this morning.

Samantha Markle admits 'cashing in' on Meghan's marriage to Prince Harry | Daily Mail Online

While I wish these people would just shut up, I am delighted that even the commentators on the DF are quiet (the nasty ones) or supportive for Meghan ("She does not deserve this, poor girl".)

I have no doubt that a lot of Britons still have problems with the fact that Meghan is even "worse" than Wallis Simpson (American, divorcee plus biracial) but I think those who eg support Charles because of the good causes he supports understand that this is not only about the love of two people for each other but a statement about racial equality from the absolute top of British society as well. For it tells: anyone can become a beloved member of the British Royal family if personal accomplishment, positive personality and working for good causes brings you the love of a prince or (think Jack, the barkeeper, though with a suitable background) princess. For I seriously doubt Harry would have fallen for Meghan if she just had a beautiful face.

Or think Mette-Marit, Mathilde or Maxima - while undoubtedly positive personalities with lots of lovely charisma and impressive personal accomplishments (which show a sense of duty and discipline), they are definately not looking like international supermodels or other sex symbols. Just saying that especially about Maxima or Maria Teresa of Luxembourg because for a lot of people a Latina (half-Latina in case of Silvia of Sweden) is not much better than a woman with African roots.

I personally love this message, though it takes of course second place to the love all these ladies have for their husbands and vice versa.


Plus: the british public slowly but surely gets annoyed with the Markles and the media for trying to smear Meghan but even worse: they get bored.I'm sure a lot of DF or other tabloid-readers will be very exited to read some day about a scandal including Meghan (even if she is just fotographed sunbathing on a yacht topless) but I doubt they look forward to reading about the Markles forever and then another article. IMHO, of course.

[ACO]

Samantha makes me laugh. I am not even mad that she is going on GMB because all she is doing is proving why Meghan wants NOTHING to do with these people. She hasn't talked to them in over 10 years and even before that it seemed the interaction was rare.

Meghan referred to herself as an only child for years. That is why many were surprised when Samantha and Tom Jr popped up. Then we learn of the 16 year age difference and understood. These people are NOT her family. Samantha going on TV spewing she should be allowed to "cash in" because reporters also talk about the royals is so ridiculous. Does she even hear herself?

Keep it up Samantha. It is funny because she truly thinks she is turning the people against Meghan but all I have seen in the recent weeks is piece after piece defending her. Even the likes of Daily Mail who LOATHE everything about Meghan are even somewhat sympathetic. That is when you know it has failed.

So go ahead and go on CBB.

[Cocoasneeze]

I agree, the more Samantha talks, the more people see why Meghan hasn't had any contact with in over a decade. She has no info about Meghan, she just wants to cash in, and she'll say anything to just do that.

[suztav]

In America people like Samantha are sometimes referred to as "trailer park trash" … I hesitate to do that, because I think most people in trailer parks actually have honest jobs and don't go around trashing their family members.


Having said that (I'm sure I'll get a PM from the moderator) … also to blame is the British media who continue to provide Samantha with a forum.

[dbarn67]

Originally Posted by suztav

In America people like Samantha are sometimes referred to as "trailer park trash" … I hesitate to do that, because I think most people in trailer parks actually have honest jobs and don't go around trashing their family members.


Having said that (I'm sure I'll get a PM from the moderator) … also to blame is the British media who continue to provide Samantha with a forum.

I agree about the media. Don't give her the opportunity cash in and Samantha and the father will go away.

[Rhea6]

Samantha can stoop down to ANY level to cash in and trash talk Meghan ! I’m sure this is the most money she has seen in her life till now , no wonder she creates tabloid worthy crap to entertain the press and public .

Until the press and public put their foot down there is no end to this ! Unfortunately that doesn’t seem likely !!

[Mirabel]

As long as Samantha lacks any insider information, what can she really say? She doesn't know anything.
All she can do is to keep repeating her slurs against Meghan, and for the press and the public, it's a case of been there, done that.


That's probably the real reason she wants Meghan to contact Markle Sr., so that he'll serve as a conduit for new information.

[jacqui24]

Originally Posted by dbarn67

I agree about the media. Don't give her the opportunity cash in and Samantha and the father will go away.

This is exactly why we don't see them have a field day on any US show other than Inside Edition. Most shows in US, like GMA, Today, Dateline and so on do not pay for stories. It's part of the journalism integrity to have a policy of not paying for interviews so that there is no ulterior motives.

And I don't understand why GMB continues to have Samantha Markle on. At this point, she's a non-story.

[Fros]

The Markles are now an investment for the media. Tom Sr. generally partners up with The Sun for multiple interviews. Tom Jr. usually works with the daily mirror. Samantha seems all over the place and will take any option available to her. The media has spent a lot of money on the Markles. The Markles will say and do anything to humiliate and embarrass Meghan they are a reliable source of constant negativity directed at her.

Right now the Markles are the circus animals that media is throwing money at to see what other tricks they can do, just how far will they go.

In the USA this wouldn't be allowed or tolerated for long because it would effect the reputation of the network that would allow this ongoing harassment to happen, one of the few platforms the would give the Markles a platform is TMZ and Inside Edition which they already utilize.

This is unfortunately considered standard practice in the UK media. That doesn't include that Piers Morgan also seems to see Meghan no longer being in contact with him (though they only met once aside from conversations on twitter) as a personal slight on him so campaigning on a pro-markle, anti-meghan crusade.

He is a high profile figure who seems to believe Meghan is in the wrong and seems to have a personal vendetta against her. He may not be a world class respected journalist but he is a visible, loud high profile figure with a massive reach.

The only way the media will dump their investment is if the Markles themselves become too toxic to be worth the investment.

[M. Payton]

As Sam has said even this am, she worked in the media most of her life, so does anyone know of her employment in the media for I could not find any jobs that she held? Looking for facts only here.......Thank you!

[Osipi]

I did a quick check as I couldn't exactly remember what Sam had done in the way of the "media" and found this listing that includes everything I've heard before about this woman. From the looks of it, she's very much exaggerating when she talks about being in the media "business". Most credits to her name are solely after she began tirades against Meghan.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4105943/

[Lady Reem]

Originally Posted by MARG

No. Just pure greed. For all the good or not so good in an ordinary family, the Markles have shown they are totally amoral, without a single redeeming feature in her father or half sister and brother.

Meghan was gifted a strong moral compass, decency and integrity by her mother, Doria and I am sure social anthropologists are having a field day trying to analyse this family.

It is like Meghan is the very antithesis of her father and siblings. This we know in her work ethic and humanitarian leanings.

I am sure Meghan finds it hard not to respond to them, but it can't be very easy for Harry to stand by and not try to protect the woman he loves from pain.

Exactly this

Originally Posted by Mirabel

As long as Samantha lacks any insider information, what can she really say? She doesn't know anything.
All she can do is to keep repeating her slurs against Meghan, and for the press and the public, it's a case of been there, done that.


That's probably the real reason she wants Meghan to contact Markle Sr., so that he'll serve as a conduit for new information.

And this