The Duchess of Sussex: Family and Background

[M. Payton]

Originally Posted by Lori138

Meghan's family make me nauseous. It is too bad that some kind of lawsuit cannot be brought against the American media who are perpetuating these stories. I just do not understand (and I am not naive) why hate and outright lies have to be told to sell newspapers or whatever. Does it make them feel good, can they sleep at night knowing they are deliberately hurting someone? Ellen DeGeneres is right when she says "be kind to one another".

I just hope that Meghan and Harry can live their lives their way and yes I agree that Meghan is a strong woman and there were obviously reasons why she kept her distance from her family all these years. Interesting that their are no stories about her mother, who has been the epitome of grace during this.

I *absolutely* agree with your entire assessment of this horrible family situation 100% and I for the love of heaven can not believe this country has laws that do not stop the media from trying to destroy someone else's life. Where is the bloody conscious of these people, is this all about Just Money to them? I know about horrible family situations and how to walk away and let bygones be just that as lots of us do here, yet this is so over the top in hate and jealousy of one person for another that it to me is scary and that is JMHO here. Someone really needs now to tell Sam to shut the hell up and be gone.....or else do something within the bounds of the law if there is any law out there ......

[Zaira]

Originally Posted by ACO

I don't believe any source close to Meghan talking to the Daily Mail but I will give Samantha and Thomas until the end of the day to react to it. Clever bait Daily Mail.

Thomas Markle claimed heart surgery so he could avoid royal wedding | Daily Mail Online

This is such a mess and I agree with duchessrachel that I feel awful for Meghan and Harry. I am sure they both feel incredibly helpless because they are dned if they do and damned if they don't.

I always side eyed Tom’s story because I thought it was suspect that KP never confimed his health and took so long to respond in the week of the wedding. But...

Whoever this so called friend of Meghan’s is needs to shut up. This will only fuel Tom and Sam more and will only start a stealth war of words.

If this is KP media team working through sources, which they do, this was the wrong way to go about it...

[Panther2000]

I used to really feel sorry for Thomas. He kept to himself & did not talk to the press. I don't know who turned on his switch but, they need to flip it to the off position. He has to know that the more he talks the more it upsets his daughter & in laws. They can't stop him from going to that country. But, they sure as hell can block him from seeing her & any future children that they have. He just needs to go back to being quite & not to about her to anyone. Maybe after sometime she can trust him again. That Interview with P. Morgan. I think that could have been the final straw for her. If you are having a private conversation with Megan & then does a TV interview with that DOG PM. I would cut him off also. Nothing would be safe for to say or do( if she were ever to meet him again). OMG that sister must be in her glory that their father has now joined the circus.


If I was her, call him ( just to shut him up) talk about the very basic stuff( his health, weather, etc...) nothing personal at all. He has shown that he can't be trusted now.

[ACO]

Originally Posted by Zaira

If this is KP media team working through sources, which they do, this was the wrong way to go about it...

I think this is just an intern at Daily Mail fanning the flames with info they were already sitting on, which they somewhat confirmed.

Not surprised whatsoever that Tom Jr is talking. I was expecting as much.

[Fros]

Originally Posted by ACO

I don't believe any source close to Meghan talking to the Daily Mail but I will give Samantha and Thomas until the end of the day to react to it. Clever bait Daily Mail.

Thomas Markle claimed heart surgery so he could avoid royal wedding | Daily Mail Online

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The article claims a source close to the duchess is saying Tom Markle's heart attack story was made up.

Meghan has been dealing with him fine and knows engaging with his stories makes it worse and drags things out even more so I really don't think this is something Meghan asked to be put out or wanted to be put out. This is giving them a reaction which is exactly what they want.

If this is someone who is close to the duchess that is trying to help I hope they don't comment further. It drags things out and makes it seem like they are responding using the tabloid press and drags the duchess down to the Markle level.

[Duke of Marmalade]

Originally Posted by Stargazer

If publications like Daily Mail would stop printing these insane ravings and/or people stop clicking on the stories, they will go away.

This will never happen, tabloid trash sells papers, not only with Meghan.

My guess is that Meghan's family get money from the press or whoever and will publish tweets/accusations in return to keep it going.

I feel sorry for Meghan for having to put up with this family of hers and for being unable to defend herself as a royal, but even if she did, it would only make it worse.

For example, its a tactic of German tabloids to write absurd stories, every often about the Swedish Royal Family (Silvia is German), only to get a counterstatement from Royal House, what makes another headline, this time even official.

[M. Payton]

Originally Posted by ACO

I think this is just an intern at Daily Mail fanning the flames with info they were already sitting on, which they somewhat confirmed.

Not surprised whatsoever that Tom Jr is talking. I was expecting as much.

Totally agree with you, this is a way to keep the flames blowing and for the Markles to get up in arms again.......I very seriously doubt anyone in the circle of trust that Meghan and Harry have would do this ever...they all know better and what the consequences would be. Besides it is the *Daily Fail* of whom we never trust....

[Osipi]

Originally Posted by Zonk

And yikes...Thomas Jr., is at it again. Wrote a letter to the Queen asking her to protect Meghan.

And there we have it. Another fragment of illusion from the mind of someone whose "facts" about the royal family are gleaned from the front pages of tabloids conveniently displayed at the local grocery checkout lane. Its a quite common thing, I believe, especially in the USA for people that really don't find the life and times of royals at all interesting like we do here. I have to admit that even I, during the Diana years, got all my information on the War of the Wales that way. I worked as a checkout cashier and would scan these tabloids during my "slow" times. Misinformation is a common thing but for those "out there" that are still in that mode of gleaning information, the theories and the beliefs and the accusations spread like wildfire and stand the danger of becoming accepted truths. There are journalists (for lack of a better word) that have amassed a fortune from this kind of thing.

Many "conspiracies" surrounding the death of Diana, Princess of Wales, after 21 years have mostly faded into obscurity but all it takes is one blurb similar to what has emerged from the mouth of Thomas Markle, Jr. to dredge it all up and take on a new life like a phoenix rising from the ashes. The danger lies not in the tabloids who will print just about anything from anybody but the fact that right now, the "War of the Markles" finds each bleat by an estranged (with the emphasis on strange) Markle family member being picked up by news outlets around the world. Even "respectable" and "credible" sources are finding it "news" that should be given attention.

Another aspect of all this that I feel is rearing its ugly head is that the entire "War of the Markles" is strikingly one sided. The "other side" adds more and more predators to their proverbial moat each time a bleat is heard around the world. They're between a rock and a hard place. Do they fight back and dispute claims and makes statements every 24 hours that Meghan has cut ties with every member of the Markle family permanently and that Meghan and Harry, their staff at Kensington Palace, the entire royal family and their staffs have declared the Markle family persona non gratis or even plot a PR stunt to try to put an end to it all and "reconcile" Meghan with her estranged (with the emphasis on strange) family or do they continue to continue with the "silence mode" that is driving this family into an out of control frenzy?

I'm of the opinion that what Meghan's side of things is doing with total silence is the best move. They're not feeding into this crap storm that seems to grow each day with each day bringing more outrageous insults, accusations and grasping at straws to make some kind of an impact to get Meghan and her new family to react. There's an old saying that if you give someone enough rope, they'll eventually hang themselves with it.

Meghan has enough strength of character to know exactly where these people are coming from, what their ultimate aim is and why they're doing this and that it has gone far beyond just attacking her personally. She is safe and secure in the proverbial inaccessible castle with the drawbridge up, the portcullis firmly down, her sentinels perched at the ready at the turrets, and a moat being freshly stocked with predators daily.

How long will the siege last? No one knows but I do know one thing. That is that Meghan and Harry along with her new family are above the petty moans and groans and whines of people that, in reality, just don't matter in the grand scheme of things.

The press however, has found a new cash cow and will milk it for all its worth.

[XeniaCasaraghi]

I wonder why no one brings up that these people ignore and abandon their children yet want Meghan to pay attention to them. I want to hear more from Meghan's nieces and nephews about the pain these people have caused them and that they aren't victims.

[Osipi]

Originally Posted by Fros

The article claims a source close to the duchess is saying Tom Markle's heart attack story was made up.

Meghan has been dealing with him fine and knows engaging with his stories makes it worse and drags things out even more so I really don't think this is something Meghan asked to be put out or wanted to be put out. This is giving them a reaction which is exactly what they want.

If this is someone who is close to the duchess that is trying to help I hope they don't comment further. It drags things out and makes it seem like they are responding using the tabloid press and drags the duchess down to the Markle level.

Someone "close to Meghan" could be anybody. The gatekeeper at KP or anyone that has come within hearing distance of Meghan anywhere. Unless there is a definite quote from a named person, its a ploy to use "someone close to the royals" or "a close friend" or "sources high up in the palace" as a tool to try to give credence to something entirely made up out of thin air.

[Osipi]

Originally Posted by XeniaCasaraghi

I wonder why no one brings up that these people ignore and abandon their children yet want Meghan to pay attention to them. I want to hear more from Meghan's nieces and nephews about the pain these people have caused them and that they aren't victims.

That's not going to happen, Xenia. Meghan's nieces and nephews have respect enough for Meghan to not feed into this. They know the people doing it much better than we do and, like Meghan, refuse to feed into it.

In other words, they refuse to have a battle of wits about unarmed people.

[Zonk]

Great points Osipi, and I totally agree with your thought process.

What's so interesting (maybe sad) about the Markle theatrics is that they think (maybe I am giving them too much credit) that these actions will work. The BRF will remain silent and NOT say a word. And for Father Markle to say he likes keeping them quiet...it has nothing to do with him and everything to do with how they work. Why should the BRF reply to their antics, when the Markle antics are showing them for who they are.

What's also interesting is that it shows their total ignorance in all things British.

For example, the tabloid press is mainly garbage. The likes of the Daily Mail, the Sun are a mixture of real news and a gossip magazine all rolled into one.

For Thomas Sr., to think he has a right to demand to meet the Queen because he is the father of the bride shows he has no clue on how things work. He should be meeting with Charles, as the father of the groom. The Queen meeting Trump (please
no political discussion) has nothing to do with his daughter. She met him because he is President of the United States.

And after he criticized the monarchy, how does he think she would even want to meet him.

He thinks he is going to just show up. Sure, do what you gotta do buddy. You won't get any further than the Palace guards. But of course, if you show up with the Press you have sealed your fate with your daughter.

Thomas Jr., writing letters for publication. When was teh last time he even spoke to Meghan?

[Marlo]

Originally Posted by Zaira

I always side eyed Tom’s story because I thought it was suspect that KP never confimed his health and took so long to respond in the week of the wedding. But...

Whoever this so called friend of Meghan’s is needs to shut up. This will only fuel Tom and Sam more and will only start a stealth war of words.

If this is KP media team working through sources, which they do, this was the wrong way to go about it...

I think KP is the source.

[Cocoasneeze]

Yeah, 'a source close to Meghan' is a made up person, and this article has been written just to get a reaction out of Markles
They'll go on a twitter rant/give an interview tonight, anyway, about how Meghan didn't call daddy on his birthday.

[Winnie]

God Bless Meghan's mother. What a brilliant class act. The father's side of the family will always be held up to the light as a complete money hungry joke until they are no longer around. I can see in the future, articles on any nasty relatives of any family in the news being known as "Markles" even by stand-up-comics. I am waiting for Sat. Night Live to run a skit next.

Originally Posted by XeniaCasaraghi

I wonder why no one brings up that these people ignore and abandon their children yet want Meghan to pay attention to them. I want to hear more from Meghan's nieces and nephews about the pain these people have caused them and that they aren't victims.

No, the nieces and nephews along with Samantha's own daughter have more class than to jump into the "pay making interviews" loved by the famous Markle three. Class somewhere in that family is welcome.

[Zonk]

Honestly, at this point...I wouldn't be surprised if any of the Markle didn't do another television interview with Piers or someone.

Also, I think Meghan's nieces and nephews should lay low, don't bring any unnecessary attention to themselves.

But has anyone noticed a pattern. Thomas Sr., doesn't talk to Thomas, Jr or his sons, and I don't think he has a relationship with any of Sam's kids.

Samantha doesn't speak with Thomas Jr. or any of her children.

Thomas Jr., doesn't speak with Thomas Sr. or any of his children.

And YET, they are upset that Meghan won't have a relationship with any of them.

I wonder what, if any relationship Meghan had with her uncles and the last time she spoke with them.

Just shows that it isn't about a family connection or lack of one with these three. Its about the publicity and money IMO.

[Osipi]

If one takes the time to filter through the different tangents that result from a Markle moan, one comes to realize that there are people that are beginning to see this whole fiasco for exactly what it is.

I believe that the more the Markles bleat and bleat and bleat to the press, eventually things will turn against them. This is a pretty good example.

https://www.elitedaily.com/p/samanth...a-line-9803336

[M. Payton]

Winnie
Oh lets hear it from all the stand up comics out there please, it will surly brighten the day for the Markle's and we can enjoy the fallout of tweets by her royal highness samantha...... just a bit of humor for the day....

[ACO]

Originally Posted by Zonk

Honestly, at this point...I wouldn't be surprised if any of the Markle didn't do another television interview with Piers or someone.

Also, I think Meghan's nieces and nephews should lay low, don't bring any unnecessary attention to themselves.

But has anyone noticed a pattern. Thomas Sr., doesn't talk to Thomas, Jr or his sons, and I don't think he has a relationship with any of Sam's kids.

Samantha doesn't speak with Thomas Jr. or any of her children.

Thomas Jr., doesn't speak with Thomas Sr. or any of his children.

And YET, they are upset that Meghan won't have a relationship with any of them.

I wonder what, if any relationship Meghan had with her uncles and the last time she spoke with them.

Just shows that it isn't about a family connection or lack of one with these three. Its about the publicity and money IMO.

THIS!!

The Markles are dysfunctional. None of them have any real relationships with each other. Samantha and her kids are estranged. Tom Jr. and his sons are so estranged they changed their last name. So did Samantha. Suddenly she a Markle again when she has been "Samantha Grant" for 2 decades. Then we have Thomas and his kids. Another toxic relationship. He even admits he has only talked to Samantha via phone and email and they haven't seen each other face to face in years.

So again.... why Meghan? None of these people have talked to each other in YEARS nor did they seem to give a damn about Meghan until she was dating Harry. Now family is the most important thing despite none of them trying to fix relationship with each other. Just Meghan. Only Meghan.

I wonder why.

[Mirabel]

Originally Posted by Zonk

He thinks he is going to just show up. Sure, do what you gotta do buddy. You won't get any further than the Palace guards. But of course, if you show up with the Press you have sealed your fate with your daughter.

True, but it will be really awkward if Markle stands outside KP screaming for Meghan.
Then what?
If they arrest him it will play into his agenda.
But what other recourse do they have? Just let him yell?