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07-17-2018, 06:17 PM
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He listened to Samantha once and it backfires badly. Then again they got megha attention and I’m going to guess once he got a taste he was addicted.
He does care about Meghan and he proves it daily. The fact he making jokes about her happiness is cruel. My heart breaks for her. I suspect Meghan knew her dad couldn’t be trusted but I’m sure even she surprised how far he has gone.
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07-17-2018, 06:28 PM
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I think the part of all this that really makes me scratch my head is trying comprehend this sentence, which by the way, is the headlines for the article from People magazine "Meghan Markle's Dad: 'I'm Enjoying the Fact That I Can Make the Entire Royal Family Not Speak".
The more I've read his latest outbursts, the more I'm thinking this man is playing from a sense of overblown entitlement. To even think that he has the power and the importance to "make" the royal family do anything when most likely other than Meghan and Harry, they're really not giving him a second thought. And... the clincher for me is to even put into words any thought that all will be OK with his relationship with Meghan and they'll end up having a good laugh about it all is beyond delusional. The man definitely is not thinking clearly at all.
The best possible outcome for all this is for Harry and Meghan to take these lemons being dished out and turn it into lemonade. Thomas Markle, Sr: The New Poster Child For The Heads Together Campaign Against Bullying". *That* might work.
Once he gets the royal family all lined up where he wants them and decides to head to the UK for tea with the Queen and appear on the balcony for the next Trooping of the Color, I will gladly sell him a Burger King crown to wear to fit right in.
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07-17-2018, 06:36 PM
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If anybody knows Tom Sr it is Doria and Meghan and that is the very reason they are quiet and dignified. I honestly believe that neither Sam or Jr or Sr are never going away......they will be on her back for the rest of her life or theirs. Sad yet I believe Harry will never let anyone near or hurt his wife again......they are together for life now and that is seen in all the pictures we see of them. My heart is sad that this is what is happening to her going into a new marriage in a new country with a whole new way of living......just really sad!
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07-17-2018, 06:42 PM
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She is not the only one living this. I remember Mette-Marit's father and Queen Fabiola's brother....nightmarish people
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07-17-2018, 06:56 PM
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It baffles me that so many (relatively speaking) are ready to defend and try to understand Tom Markle.
Anyway, that is bound to end eventually.
As long as the BRF in general and H&M in particular stay silent and keep him very much at an arms length, he will eventually say or do something so outrageous as to completely discredit him to anyone but the most ardent sympathizers. Who, as I see it, also tend to harbor a very strong aversion towards Meghan. I'm not saying that everyone who has shown him understanding fits into this category, nor that they necessarily are members of TRF, but judging from comments elsewhere the most hardcore sympathizers IMO seems to be more driven by a strong personal dislike of Meghan rather than a genuine concern for Thomas Markle.
A man I have absolutely no sympathy for. I simply cannot understand parents who are jealous of their children or who try to hurt their children. He should instead be beaming with pride.
I could readily forgive him if he was indiscreet or otherwise goofed up, if it was based in him being over the moon with pride for his daughter. That is hardly the case for this whiner. - "I could die... blah, blah..." Give me a break! How despicable can you be?
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07-17-2018, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Zonk
I am trying to figure out Markle's Sr., end game?
I read his most recent rant on TMZ, which has already been discussed here..so he is basically stating that he isn't going anywhere and not going to be quiet about it. And that, chuckle about the Duchess is truly awful. Does he think this is going to work?
So what does he want besides the obvious (for Meghan to contact him, fly him to England and meet the Queen). Since he has stated that he hasn't spoken to her and his calls are going unanswered...how is this media blitz going to convince his daughter and the Palace to call him? He has already proven that he can't be trusted nor can he be quiet. So why should they call him?
It comes across IMO as bullying and not very productive. I can't imagine she will be calling him at all. And since he is so worried about how Meghan is being treated by the public and the royals, one wonders did he saying anything to Thomas Jr. and Samantha when in the weeks before her wedding, those two were doing their best to destroy her. Calling her shallow, materialistic, etc. What did he say to THEM?
If Samantha is behind this, and since she is mirroring his conversation with TMZ via Twitter...I am going to guess she is. This isnt' going to work out the way they think it is.
I can't imagine he will get a birthday call, I can't imagine he will see Meghan again until its almost too late. Samantha is never going to see her again.
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Any call or communication will be recorded so there is no way he will get a call. I expect Pierce Moogan to be on standby with play by play coverage.
It should be noted that this is a replay of the Fathers Day scam. First Sam will tweet that Daddy did not get a card/call, then Pierce will start with the guilt trip tweets, then he will do another live interview about Sr. not getting a call/card they all so want so they can get a recording of her calling.
Any form of communication will be twisted especially when Sr. is the only person talking. Sr. will suddenly remember some conversation about Brexit. This is all classic extortion with the kids working together with the father. They are all speaking the same language and using the same we are privileged and will get away with embarrassing you so pay us the money or we keep embarrassing you.
Sr. by ordering Meghan to talk to him is trying to bully Meghan back to the negotiating table.
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07-17-2018, 07:20 PM
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Boy! When even most of the Daily Mail commenters are supporting Meghan it has to be bad for Thomas Markle Snr!
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07-17-2018, 07:22 PM
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She is not the only one living this. I remember Mette-Marit's father and Queen Fabiola's brother....nightmarish people
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What did Mette-Marit's father do?
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07-17-2018, 07:31 PM
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Any call or communication will be recorded so there is no way he will get a call. I expect Pierce Moogan to be on standby with play by play coverage.
It should be noted that this is a replay of the Fathers Day scam. First Sam will tweet that Daddy did not get a card/call, then Pierce will start with the guilt trip tweets, then he will do another live interview about Sr. not getting a call/card they all so want so they can get a recording of her calling.
Any form of communication will be twisted especially when Sr. is the only person talking. Sr. will suddenly remember some conversation about Brexit. This is all classic extortion with the kids working together with the father. They are all speaking the same language and using the same we are privileged and will get away with embarrassing you so pay us the money or we keep embarrassing you.
Sr. by ordering Meghan to talk to him is trying to bully Meghan back to the negotiating table.
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My guess is that IF senior does not receive a call tomorrow...he will release some more Meghan pnotos or reveal some more details about conversations between himself, Harry and Meghan. Who wants to bet that either TMZ or Piers Morgan or the Sun will have an interview with him tomorrow? Nobody right! Because it will be a sure bet!
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07-17-2018, 07:35 PM
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Samantha and Tom Sr are taunting them. They want a reaction so the best thing to do is ignore them.
I’m remember how blasé he was about Meghan crying over all the crap he put her through before the wedding. So him making jokes of their estrangement is just disgusting.
He worse than his awful, cruel older children.
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07-17-2018, 07:36 PM
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I would almost guarantee that someone from the media is on full alert waiting to see what happens next in the Life and Times of Daddy Dearest. If anything, Tom's alerted the world that he turns 74 tomorrow. Perhaps the Queen should send him a cookie? But seriously, I do not imagine that Meghan will go anywhere near a phone with her father on the other end tomorrow. She's smarter than that.
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07-17-2018, 07:47 PM
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My guess is that IF senior does not receive a call tomorrow...he will release some more Meghan pnotos or reveal some more details about conversations between himself, Harry and Meghan. Who wants to bet that either TMZ or Piers Morgan or the Sun will have an interview with him tomorrow? Nobody right! Because it will be a sure bet!
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Each interview becomes less and less effective. He has already insulted and threatened The Queen which is pretty low. I think the next step is flying to the UK to ambush M&H. Seriously old dude with the so called heart problems who is close to death, is that the legacy you want to leave? Why does'nt he go visit his other grand children?!
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07-17-2018, 07:52 PM
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This seems like a game to him that he has decided he's going to win. He has pretty much shown what he's going to do: He'll reveal more private info on Meghan, he does have some from the past. He already spilled his opinion on why her previous marriage ended. Until Meghan tolls out the ted carpet and arranges a meeting with the Queen, he'll continue embarrassing her publicly. And he thinks it's funny.
Him and his older daughter live in a deluded bubble, where they've decided, that cashing in on Meghan is going to be their means of income. And Meghan is completely in the wrong and cruel for not supporting this, and needs to do better: Bow down to daddy, according to Samantha. According to these two, Mr Markle made her who she is, she owes her whole being to him, and she's not showing gratitude. It's sounding a bit dangerous levels of entitlement, right now Mr Markle is getting angry that Meghan hasn't fallen down the line already. He will get really nasty when he gets angry. I think he will target some hate toward Doria soon, just to get a reaction, any reaction.
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07-17-2018, 07:56 PM
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Boy! When even most of the Daily Mail commenters are supporting Meghan it has to be bad for Thomas Markle Snr!
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I think, initially, many conventional and trusting onlookers were hopeful of a normalish father/daughter relationship for Meghan. As Mr Thomas Markle Sr. continues his outbursts with the press that hope seems less plausible.
It's hard to fathom.
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07-17-2018, 08:10 PM
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This seems like a game to him that he has decided he's going to win. He has pretty much shown what he's going to do: He'll reveal more private info on Meghan, he does have some from the past. He already spilled his opinion on why her previous marriage ended. Until Meghan tolls out the ted carpet and arranges a meeting with the Queen, he'll continue embarrassing her publicly. And he thinks it's funny.
Him and his older daughter live in a deluded bubble, where they've decided, that cashing in on Meghan is going to be their means of income. And Meghan is completely in the wrong and cruel for not supporting this, and needs to do better: Bow down to daddy, according to Samantha. According to these two, Mr Markle made her who she is, she owes her whole being to him, and she's not showing gratitude. It's sounding a bit dangerous levels of entitlement, right now Mr Markle is getting angry that Meghan hasn't fallen down the line already. He will get really nasty when he gets angry. I think he will target some hate toward Doria soon, just to get a reaction, any reaction.
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I totally agree with you on that statement........I worry that not one has so far contacted Doria nor done anything to make her life hell like they are doing to Meghan......if they want a reaction then Doria is the next step in getting Meghan to say something or do something.............I would worry about Doria if I was Meghan for this is sounding rather on the dangerous side of emotional abuse. You never turn your back on people like ever.......you keep all eyes open around you and the ones you love.....you can never trust this family again with anything..........
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07-17-2018, 08:32 PM
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Did you see Samantha's latest tweet? Wow. Her and Thomas' behaviors are absolutely disgusting.
"How about you pay tribute to your own father?! Enough is enough. Act like a humanitarian act like a woman! If our father dies I’m holding you responsible, Meg! @KensingtonRoyal"
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07-17-2018, 08:46 PM
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Personally, I think that with everything that's going on now, Doria is astute enough to follow Meghan's lead and change her phone number to eliminate that channel of communication from any of the Markles. If anyone poses a problem, she'd also first and foremost alert Meghan and then possibly even the police and get a restraining order (if she hasn't already done so which is why she's not even mentioned lately.)
Samantha? She's barking and bleating and making all kinds of animal noises but its going to get her absolutely nowhere real fast. With the attitude of hostility that's she's spewing forth, if she ever was under consideration to be on CBB, that's probably been flushed down the toilet also. No British program is going to want to take the risk of someone like her appearing on their program.
One reaps what they sow and so far, what I've seen, the Markles are planting mothballs and expecting to reap a harvest from them. Mothballs repel.
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07-17-2018, 08:51 PM
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Did you see Samantha's latest tweet? Wow. Her and Thomas' behaviors are absolutely disgusting.
"How about you pay tribute to your own father?! Enough is enough. Act like a humanitarian act like a woman! If our father dies I’m holding you responsible, Meg! @KensingtonRoyal"
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Disgusting. Just wow. Steer clear Meghan.
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07-17-2018, 08:53 PM
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I hope if Doria is threatened then they take legal action to get a restraining order to keep them away from her.
This whole thing is one of the reasons I wanted Meghan to invite the quiet Markles and Raglands to the wedding; to make a clear statement she has contact with family she can trust and that her father and siblings aren't that.
Also notice how Tom Sr attacks and threats mimic Tom Jr's.
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07-17-2018, 09:05 PM
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I don't think Doria is in physical danger. I meant, that Mr Markle will give interviews trashing Doria, Samantha has already started it on twitter ages ago.
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