The Duchess of Sussex: Family and Background

[Osipi]

Now, if that statement had been made by the Prince of Wales, I'd be more apt to give it some credence as Charles has always been the epitome of what a best dressed British gentleman looks like. Then we look at pictures of Thomas Markle, Sr. and for me, his statement and his pictures just do not make his statement credible whatsoever. The man knows 1930s styles? He wasn't anymore alive in the 30s than I was and the last I knew, he worked as a lighting director and not in costuming and set clothing design.

Its blatantly obvious that he got this snippet of information from somewhere and it wasn't from Vogue. Someone keeping a very close critical eye on what Meghan wears. Doesn't sound like something Tom, Sr. would do.

[Missjersey]

This is just a constant playing out of “I want what you have”

[Osipi]

Not so much they want what she has but want to be what she is in my book. Overblown sense of entitlement. The simple fact that Tom, Sr. now seems to declare he's taking on the royal family and cackling with glee that he's made them go quiet and even thinks his daughter (he actually called her the Duchess) would get a laugh out of all this shows that he has taken his role as "father" to a delusional level. He's done the same with President Trump in putting his importance on the same level with the President of the United States. What next? An irrational claim to be Divine? I wouldn't be surprised.

Its all delusion and exaggeration and narcissistic and you can't make this stuff up. It goes far beyond just wanting to cash in and ride on Meghan's coat tails to fame and fortune.

[Missjersey]

Yes Osipi, it’s delusional, it’s all about control. This guy is a waste.

[Stargazer]

Originally Posted by Osipi

Not so much they want what she has but want to be what she is in my book. Overblown sense of entitlement. The simple fact that Tom, Sr. now seems to declare he's taking on the royal family and cackling with glee that he's made them go quiet and even thinks his daughter (he actually called her the Duchess) would get a laugh out of all this shows that he has taken his role as "father" to a delusional level. He's done the same with President Trump in putting his importance on the same level with the President of the United States. What next? An irrational claim to be Divine? I wouldn't be surprised.

Its all delusion and exaggeration and narcissistic and you can't make this stuff up. It goes far beyond just wanting to cash in and ride on Meghan's coat tails to fame and fortune.

That's intersting

[Zaira]

"The Duchess?" He is starting to turn bitter.

This man is unbelievable.

[Cocoasneeze]

It's weird how fast Mr Markle went down the drain. He must've had hard time not saying a word for a year, and the attention not being on him. The when he started, and he got the 'adorable, poor dad' comments from the media, he didn't want to stop. And few more interviews, and he's pretty much seen as manipulative abuser.

And yes, the use of 'Duchess' is very telling.

[Ista]

Tom Sr. is a sad, sad excuse for a father and a human being. And he's naive, but not in a charming way. If he actually said the things that TMZ is quoting him on, he clearly has no idea how the BRF works, and is more intent on having a gargantuan public tantrum. That should end well

I have a lot of sympathy for Meghan and Harry.

[wyevale]

What next? An irrational claim to be Divine?

I fully expect him shortly to be ringing TMZ purporting to be Cleopatra reincarnated...

[Osipi]

Drats! I thought I detected carryover traits from Henry VIII in him.

Sorry... just had to do it.

[AlowVera]

Originally Posted by Ista

Tom Sr. is a sad, sad excuse for a father and a human being. And he's naive, but not in a charming way. If he actually said the things that TMZ is quoting him on, he clearly has no idea how the BRF works, and is more intent on having a gargantuan public tantrum. That should end well

I have a lot of sympathy for Meghan and Harry.

He is going after the BRF, an American going up against the BRF. Will the UK press continue to champion his cause against their Queen? I know how it works for me and family. Usually I can talk about my family BUT outsiders cannot do the same. We close ranks.

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[wyevale]

detected carryover traits from Henry VIII in him.

But you DID.. maltreating daughters was something of a habit with THAT Harry too..

[jacqui24]

Originally Posted by wyevale

But you DID.. maltreating daughters was something of a habit with THAT Harry too..

To be fair to him, it doesn't seem like he prefer his son either.

Originally Posted by AlowVera

He is going after the BRF, an American going up against the BRF. Will the UK press continue to champion his cause against their Queen? I know how it works for me and family. Usually I can talk about my family BUT outsiders cannot do the same. We close ranks.

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They are billing it as against Meghan rather than the Queen in the headlines. As long as they continue to do that, I don't see their behavior changing either.

[Osipi]

And in the meantime, behind closed doors burning the midnight oil are a team of lawyers, attorneys and counselors pouring over each and every word and accusation and threat hoping against hope that somewhere, somehow there will be something they can actually take legal action against. Its a tough road to go.

[AlowVera]

Originally Posted by Osipi

And in the meantime, behind closed doors burning the midnight oil are a team of lawyers, attorneys and counselors pouring over each and every word and accusation and threat hoping against hope that somewhere, somehow there will be something they can actually take legal action against. Its a tough road to go.

Thats the thing, he is just playing the I'll embarrass you until you give in to my demands. Its not really scandalous, nothing on par with toe sucking. He is the drunk dad who shows up at your recital and makes a scene.

[M. Payton]

This statement here.......*‘I’m not going to wave flags and make a fool of myself. I’d find a hotel room and try to reach them*.....hasn't he already done that a couple of times over, made a huge fool of himself in front to the world....of course he has and the thing is, he does not give a damn, he wants to be in the history books along with all the royal family. A very disgusting, abusive, ugly man for a father. Seems it has to be his way or no way........

[Zonk]

Okay...let's keep the thread clean.

Comments that infer that bodily harm and/or a threat towards any member of the BRF and/or the Markle family will be deleted without notice.

That's not funny nor will it be tolerated.

[HRHHermione]

The more I learn about the Markle family, the more impressed I am by Meghan. She managed to become someone who seems quite capable, discreet, genuine and kind. Her mother deserves a lot of credit and so does she.

It makes so much sense that Harry said she’d never had much family. We can see now that she didn’t- only her mother. I’m glad she found her happiness and I doubt her father and toxic siblings spoil that. Their 15 minutes are nearly up and that relationship will likely never recover.

[Zonk]

I am trying to figure out Markle's Sr., end game?

I read his most recent rant on TMZ, which has already been discussed here..so he is basically stating that he isn't going anywhere and not going to be quiet about it. And that, chuckle about the Duchess is truly awful. Does he think this is going to work?

So what does he want besides the obvious (for Meghan to contact him, fly him to England and meet the Queen). Since he has stated that he hasn't spoken to her and his calls are going unanswered...how is this media blitz going to convince his daughter and the Palace to call him? He has already proven that he can't be trusted nor can he be quiet. So why should they call him?

It comes across IMO as bullying and not very productive. I can't imagine she will be calling him at all. And since he is so worried about how Meghan is being treated by the public and the royals, one wonders did he saying anything to Thomas Jr. and Samantha when in the weeks before her wedding, those two were doing their best to destroy her. Calling her shallow, materialistic, etc. What did he say to THEM?

If Samantha is behind this, and since she is mirroring his conversation with TMZ via Twitter...I am going to guess she is. This isnt' going to work out the way they think it is.

I can't imagine he will get a birthday call, I can't imagine he will see Meghan again until its almost too late. Samantha is never going to see her again.

[XeniaCasaraghi]

So I wonder if all the apologists for Tom will come to defend this one? He is clearly an extortionist and emotionally blackmailing his daughter in public; yet people want her to speak with him.