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Old 06-18-2018, 05:58 AM
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Thomas Markle admitted Harry and Meghan offered him support and told him to avoid the press. He stressed how they stressed it. He just didn't listen to them and ignored their help.

Even when he was told doing this interview could upset Meghan he just said he needed to explain he didn't fake his heart attack and hope they would understand. He obviously doesn't care and refuses to listen.

That entire interview was a mess. Thank goodness for Doria.
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Old 06-18-2018, 05:59 AM
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Such a shame. I find it hard to believe anything Thomas Markle says. I doubt we will ever find out the political leanings of all the members of the BRF. But I doubt Harry would have anything positive to say about Trump considering the things he publicly stated about his mother.
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Old 06-18-2018, 06:02 AM
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My goodness, here we go for Round 2—blah, blah, blah and IMO that’s exactly what it is BLAH.

Won’t be surprised if tomorrow brings a chirping from a sibling giving her take on this...
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Old 06-18-2018, 06:03 AM
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This is why @KensingtonRoyal won’t welcome Thomas Markle’s interview on @GMB. He’s talking about his conversation with Prince Harry about Donald Trump and Brexit ��

Prince Harry spoke to Thomas Markle about #Brexit. His father-in-law tells @GMB Harry thinks Brexit is ‘an experiment’ that ‘we have to try’.
All a little too close to the political debate for the Royal Family ...

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Old 06-18-2018, 06:14 AM
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Harry's been trained since boyhood to be deliberately vague about politicians and political issues. I doubt he would be letting it all hang out with a near stranger, even if it is Meghan's dad.

Tom has said pleasant things about Harry and Meghan. Nevertheless, I just wish he had remained silent. Perhaps he will from now on. At best this is very naive behaviour on Tom's part, at worst a case of 'I want to explain this on national TV and forget about discretion'. I think Meghan will be upset, and that's not surprising.
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Old 06-18-2018, 06:25 AM
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I’m not sure this is going to do much to help family relations....

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Old 06-18-2018, 06:33 AM
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Oh well, if Meghan cuts her father out of her life she will if she has a good reason to, if she hasn't she won't.
In spite of some Royal correspondents and others practically wetting themselves with excitement over this, it isn't exactly some world-shattering scandal that is going to reverberate through the centuries.
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Old 06-18-2018, 06:44 AM
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Thomas Markle admitted Harry and Meghan offered him support and told him to avoid the press. He stressed how they stressed it. He just didn't listen to them and ignored their help.

Even when he was told doing this interview could upset Meghan he just said he needed to explain he didn't fake his heart attack and hope they would understand. He obviously doesn't care and refuses to listen.

That entire interview was a mess. Thank goodness for Doria.
THIS.

There is absolutely nothing sweet about this.

This man is quite literally only concerned with himself and how he is presented in the media. He is literally pouring gasoline on a fire that was slowly dying. For what? So that he can make himself feel better.

This is what a narcissist as a parent looks like.

They literally begged him to please stop talking to the press and despite having been told again that Meghan would be very hurt if her went ahead with this interview, he decided that HE DIDN'T CARE IF HE HURT HIS OWN DAUGHTER - AGAIN!!! - after all the pain and stress he had already caused her during a time that should have been a joyous and happy occasion.

I am just very, very sad for Meghan - to be continuously confronted with how little her own father cares for her well being and happiness time and time again.
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Old 06-18-2018, 07:08 AM
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It's Mette-Marit and her father all over again but on an international stage and hopefully without the strippers...
yes, you found the right comparison. this was due to happen - royalty marrying a celeb, one of dubious upbringing within a disfunctional family is just not a good idea.

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He wants to come to London? What a joke. Anyone notice how he keeps mentioning how upset he is that he is not part of history. And how uncomfortable was his comment that the 1st thing he said to Harry was "don't raise hand to her." Sheesh.
i can see how meghan turned out a feminist - this is just so embarrassing.

i feel embarrassed for meghan and for the BRF for having to deal with this and for the embarrassment this man caused them on the days leading to the wedding. this is just the worst comment ever made by a father of a royal bride. i think more and more that the 'medical treatment' that was mentioned thomas markle needed on the days prior to the wedding was not really 'medical treatment' - just a way out for the BRF inviting him to the wedding after potentially another (private) embarrassment.

how the queen thought this was a good idea is beyond me.
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Old 06-18-2018, 07:15 AM
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Thomas Markle was paid 'a few thousand pounds' for his interview with @GMB today. There was no Kensington Palace approval for this. He is entitled to accept payment, of course, but it does raise questions about his ongoing relationship with daughter Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex.

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Old 06-18-2018, 07:16 AM
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Philip?

Remember all the rude and crude and racist and sexist remarks that ‘dear old Philip’ has said through the years, and we’ve all been encouraged to regard that as Philip being Philip? Surely he knows better. Mr. Markle hasn’t said anything remotely as obnoxious as those things.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...-quotes-133848
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Old 06-18-2018, 07:17 AM
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There's nothing sweet about a father selling out his daughter and son-in-law's private conversations without their consent and give an interview about these conversations. It's a betrayal. HUGE betrayal. He's only concerned about himself, and no one else.

Piers confirmed, that Snr was paid, and Harry and Meghan were not aware of this interview happening.
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Old 06-18-2018, 07:37 AM
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Senior was paid a few thousand pounds for the interview KP have made no comment and were unaware.

Frankly I think everyone including the press were unaware, this seems to be quite a coup for GMB.
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Old 06-18-2018, 07:54 AM
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Remember all the rude and crude and racist and sexist remarks that ‘dear old Philip’ has said through the years, and we’ve all been encouraged to regard that as Philip being Philip? Surely he knows better. Mr. Markle hasn’t said anything remotely as obnoxious as those things.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...-quotes-133848
Can't disagree there.

The one that comes out looking ugly here is Harry (and Thomas for obvious reasons) to be quite honest. Giving Trump a chance? Oh honey, that is about the dumbest thing you can say. If he really did say that, f*ck you forever. It's cute giving Trump a chance when you are not affected by his actions one bit.
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Old 06-18-2018, 07:57 AM
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Can't disagree there.

The one that comes out looking ugly here is Harry (and Thomas for obvious reasons) to be quite honest. Giving Trump a chance? Oh honey, that is about the dumbest thing you can say. If he really did say that, f*ck you forever. It's cute giving Trump a chance when you are not affected by his actions one bit.
Are you really taking Thomas Snr and his word as the truth? Do people REALLY believe, that Harry would discuss with Snr about Trump and Brexit? The only one looking bad here is Snr, he betrayed Meghan and Harry's trust, talked about private matters, and NONE of this should be a public discussion.
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Old 06-18-2018, 07:58 AM
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I fell so bad for Meghan. There’s a big reason why that the only family member she had at her wedding was her mother, Doria. Her family not only have their own issues, but they’ve been out to hurt her for a long time. Her father wants to hurt her. That must be devastating for Meghan to even comprehend.

I refuse to even look at the interview. I will not be a part of the hurt towards Meghan. I just can’t do it.
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Old 06-18-2018, 08:16 AM
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I think the things Tom said were sweet but that he said them is a betrayal; if Meghan asked him to keep quiet and he is choosing to go against her wishes it shows a slight selfishness on his part. Especially when he knows it will just cause his daughter (Samantha) to have more free minutes of fame as she comments on Twitter and everywhere else. Its clear to me now that all the Markle's can't shut up and stop talking and that Tom is just like his kids.
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Old 06-18-2018, 08:20 AM
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A remark that says more about Mr Markle, than about Harry IMO.. Why would he EVEN think that a possibility about someone he doesn't know and seems not to have yet met [unless it's in his own repertoire] ???
I’ve actually known a few parents (not my own) that has flat out stated because that’s their one thing whereas otherwise they keep very open mind and stay out of their children’s love life.

As for the rest of that interview. The topics of trump and Brexit might make people slightly uncomfortable, but Harry handled it like his training would teach him. Not offer any personal view but live with what’s already decided and get on with it.

As for the rest of this situation, Thomas Markle needs to develop a thick skin about what the press say and get over himself. He seems to have difficulty that. I understand that he’s frustrated and him following the advice of don’t speak to the press didn’t make them go away when he did exactly that when he was found last November. But he needs to understand this isn’t going to do it either. I suppose some people will just have to learn the hard way.

I’m not going to speculate about Meghan’s relationship with her father as she seems to be able to forgive a lot more than me and I’m not talking about going to the press. Had my father pulled the stunt that he did before right before my wedding, I would’ve handled it a lot worse than Meghan even taking out the media piece. I have no qualms about cutting out people who can’t their their crap together and seems to not think through the consequences of their actions, or just react to things rather than have control over how they handle things in life. She seems to love and care for her father probably because of what he has done for her when she was younger. However, he needs to realize how much he is failing her now and how much he is hurting her because he’s pride is a little hurt over what strangers are saying even if he feels it’s unfair. Don’t go into that back and forth with the press, no one ever wins other than them.

I realize this might be a new world for Thomas Markle unlike anything he’s seen in the first 70 years of his life. But he needs to come to terms with the fact that this is his new normal. It’s unfair, but it’s not going to change.

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Can't disagree there.

The one that comes out looking ugly here is Harry (and Thomas for obvious reasons) to be quite honest. Giving Trump a chance? Oh honey, that is about the dumbest thing you can say. If he really did say that, f*ck you forever. It's cute giving Trump a chance when you are not affected by his actions one bit.
Harry did whatever his training taught him, which is to remain neutral on politics despite what their personal hope for the result would be on specific issues or policies. Once it’s decided, the royals DO support the work the politicians needs them to do. What do we think all the soft diplomacy tour is about or rolling out the BRF at CHOGM. They don’t discuss policies, but they are certainly there to make things easier for those that do discuss them. Members of the BRF didn’t take an opinion on if Brexit should or shouldn’t happen. But once it did happen, they are working to support the government on their transition during this time.
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Old 06-18-2018, 08:30 AM
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Its clear to me now that all the Markle's can't shut up and stop talking and that Tom is just like his kids.
He has really let his daughter down- again!

To think some people called the Middletons low-class and pushy; they are positively saintly compared to most of Meghan's family.
At least she can count on her mother.
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I'm sorry but no, yes the Markle's are a problem but there is still no excuse for only having 1 family member at her wedding.
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