The Duchess of Sussex: Family and Background

[Madame Verseau]

Originally Posted by AlowVera

UK media needs to read the room. People are exhausted over the Markle family coverage.

They certainly do need to read the room. Daily Mail is not running Samantha articles because people posted on the comment section to stop giving her a platform. DM powers that be probably realized they are going to lose readers (and money) by giving these Markles and Dooleys a platform so they stop. That's why the Dooleys were dropped by ITV for doing wedding commentary two days prior IMO.

The media knows Doria will not talk so its only option is Tom Sr. If the palaces decide to ban him there goes their access. They are running scared. So the talking heads and op-eds are meant to guilt Meghan and Harry into forgiving Sr and bring him into the fold so he can spill BRF secrets to them and get "exclusives". I think the royals are on to what the media is trying to do and not falling for it.

The thing is, now that Sr. gave the interview the media has carte blanche to go into his past. If any outlet (read TMZ) unearth anything that counters the kindly but misguided old man image Sr's media defenders will turn on him with a quickness, claiming he deceived them.

[Osipi]

Perhaps Tom Sr.'s GMB interview came along at just the right time. Full on the heels of the wedding he didn't attend amid the many problems surrounding the lead up to the wedding. The interview is done and over with and although the press and media are waiting with bated breath on what H&M and KP will do as far as "banning" or "ostracizing" Meghan's father, they'll turn blue and pass out before getting any information from the royal side.

The precedent has been set that Tom Sr. is not to be trusted with any kind of information and right off the bat, its an avenue that will be closed up and sealed to prevent further mishaps. Tom Sr. may be able to give the scoop on what the weather is like in the UK or what flowers are blooming in the garden but as far as any insight into the lives of Meghan and Harry, he won't be given a clue. He'll never have any credible information worth paying for ever again.

Tom Sr. might be spotted buying a Big Mac or a sombrero with bright colors at the local festival but it'll be more along the lines of what we see with some relatives being "spotted" shopping, eating, walking their dog or riding a bicycle. Nothing more really "scoop worthy" as it pertains to Harry and Meghan to be found.

Better it happened now than being a ticking time bomb waiting to go off in the future IMO.

[Missy-]

Originally Posted by Madame Verseau

I'm not sure how true this is, but I wouldn't be surprised

BANNED: Meghan Markle’s dad barred from royal events after blindsiding TV interview | Canoe

Life may be too extreme but I can see BP freezing him out until Sr can prove he can keep his mouth shut. The BRF is not mad at Meghan, but you bet they can't trust Sr as far as they can throw him After what he did they will never trust him and if he does show up they will be civil but they will have their guard up . I wouldn't tell personal details to him either; it may find this way to the tabloids by way of Sam.

Again, nothing new. He wasn't going to show up at any royal events anyway, doesn't really seem he cares to. He certainly hasn't shown any motivation to travel much outside his comfort zone of Mexico/SW US. Non-story.

[Denville]

He can still talk about meghan, her childhood, family life her earlier days....

[Osipi]

While this is true that Tom Sr. could talk about the early days, its already been hashed out in the press so much that its not really going to garner much interest. Maybe on the occasion of a birth, comparable baby pictures would make the rounds but these kind of articles and pictures are just column fillers and not really "scoops". There just isn't going to be anything "scoopable" to really come out of the Markle side of the family in the years to come. They've burned that bridge already.

The more we talk about this, the more I realize that the Markle side of the family, including her own father, really don't know the person that Meghan is today enough to give any real kind of insight.

[Madame Verseau]

Originally Posted by Denville

He can still talk about meghan, her childhood, family life her earlier days....

The childhood stories have already been told so there is nothing new. And if does open up it still exposes Sr to more scrutiny about his life. Here's Sr's Wikipedia page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Markle

Based on the year he was reported born (1945) he was of draft age to serve in the Vietnam War, but no record of military service. And for his two marriages, Sr married his first wife in 1964, making him roughly 21 and Sam was born the same year. Sr. married Doria and an exact date was given (Dec 23 1979) and Meghan was born Aug 4, 1981. The talkative Markles opened a Pandora's box on themselves with their money grab interviews to have tea spilled on them. All the press has to do is to put Meghan's name in the headlines to get viewers and clicks.

[Missy-]

There will always be interest in what Meghan's father has to say, never underestimate the media's ability to make up a story that people will want to read. All it takes is a subject like 'Meghan's Dad in Hospital' or 'Thomas Markle's Fatherly Advice to Daughter' and you bet there are going to be people wanting to read it.

Samantha's problem is she's obviously toxic and no one can sympathize with her, she is not a sympathetic character. Tom Markle to some extent is, he hasn't openly bashed Meghan or Harry and has been playing the bumbling but well-meaning father quite well so far.

No family member has had any access to Meghan's life except her mother for years and years, it doesn't stop the media from paying them for interviews and as long as those interviews generate ad dollars they will continue to run them.

[Lady Reem]

Originally Posted by Lady Reem

Completely agree with you there Madame Verseau. He engaged in scams and financially profited from it. He keeps exploiting his links to Meghan. Publicly spewing her new husband’s private conversations and getting paid for it is pretty disgusting too.
I just don’t get it. He has a pension to live off, he owns a home in California. And he resides in a gated community of expats in Mexico living the life he wants.

https://www.her.ie/celeb/meghan-mark...terview-409578

I’d be pretty upset too if that happened to me. I guess for some people greed, fame, attention-seeking and ego boost are more of an incentive and supersedes any consideration for their child’s emotional wellbeing and privacy.

You’d be forgiven for thinking the Markle sellouts were the only people with a relative married into a royal family the shameful/exploitive way they’ve paraded themselves in the media.

https://amp.thedailybeast.com/meghan...mpression=true

I suspected as much a long while ago but the 2nd to the last paragraph of this article has me thinking...
This man already owns a home in Los Feliz (WeHo) Meghan herself doesn’t own a home so why should she get him a new one?! The demands are never going to end and she’ll inadvertently end up funding lavish lifestyles for the step sister etc. via Snr. Seems the media backers of that family have begun to circle the wagons, so to speak. I sincerely hope H&M don’t give in to pressure, BM or media bullying.

If anyone deserves a new home it’s Meghan’s loyal mum! That Pap stunt he pulled at her home was invasive and likely placed Doria at risk. She was photographed/filmed right at her front porch as the paps wanted to catch her reaction to her to gift stunt Snr pulled.

[Denville]

Originally Posted by Osipi

While this is true that Tom Sr. could talk about the early days, its already been hashed out in the press so much that its not really going to garner much interest. Maybe on the occasion of a birth, comparable baby pictures would make the rounds but these kind of articles and pictures are just column fillers and not really "scoops". There just isn't going to be anything "scoopable" to really come out of the Markle side of the family in the years to come. They've burned that bridge already.

The more we talk about this, the more I realize that the Markle side of the family, including her own father, really don't know the person that Meghan is today enough to give any real kind of insight.

we're not talking insight, we're just talking stoires about Meghan..

[Lady Reem]

Originally Posted by MARG

There is nothing that can or will be done about the Markles. I know Meghan said she loves her father but I don't believe any of her family have behaved the way she could have thought in her worst nightmares.

It is now clear that her father cannot be trusted with anything other than the weather, she will find it hard to even converse with him about the smallest thing for fear he will tell the media. Worse, I don't even believe that he said much if anything about Trump let alone Brexit,

For all intents and purposes, she only has her mother left to talk to in her family and that is both sad and lonely.

Never trust the word of a scammer. I don’t actually believe Prince Harry discussed Trump or Brexit with someone he hadn’t even met face to face. There’s a reason a meeting between those two hasn’t yet taken place and Harry is too astute a person to let his guard down like that to discuss controversial topics with someone he barely knew.

That interview was well planned and very calculated IMO... Dressing it up saying a few nice things about the couple means little.

[AlowVera]

Originally Posted by Lady Reem

https://amp.thedailybeast.com/meghan...mpression=true

I suspected as much a long while ago but the 2nd to the last paragraph of this article has me thinking...
This man already owns a home, Meghan herself doesn’t own a home so why should she get him a new one?! The demands are never going to end and she’ll inadvertently end up funding lavish lifestyles for the step sister etc. via Snr. Seems the media backers of that family have begun to circle the wagons, so to speak. I sincerely hope H&M don’t give in to pressure, BM or media bullying.

If anyone deserves a new home it’s Meghan’s loyal mum! That Pap stunt scam he pulled at her home was invasive and likely placed Doria at risk. She was photographed/filmed right at her front porch as the paps wanted to catch her reaction to her to gift stunt Snr pulled.

Any money Sr. gets will be trickled down to the siblings. Perhaps that is why Sam brokered this deal because she gets a cut from the interview and ALSO those never seen pics.


After the exclusive his rate will go down. He is no longer a GET. He is not media savvy.


The next thing left is to sell off the old pictures that we have already seen.


While Sr. was faking photos of him getting measured for a suit it has been reported that Meghan already arranged for him to have a suit fitting in LA. The siblings made claims that Sr. was all on his own but H&M had everything arranged for him and he goes and creates those awful fake pics of him getting measured on the street.



I really feel for Meghan in all this. They know that she can't talk so they used that to play pity politics for cash.

Originally Posted by Lady Reem

https://amp.thedailybeast.com/meghan...mpression=true

I suspected as much a long while ago but the 2nd to the last paragraph of this article has me thinking...
This man already owns a home in Los Feliz (WeHo) Meghan herself doesn’t own a home so why should she get him a new one?! The demands are never going to end and she’ll inadvertently end up funding lavish lifestyles for the horrid step sister etc. via Snr. Seems the media backers of that ghastly family have begun to circle the wagons, so to speak. I sincerely hope H&M don’t give in to pressure, BM or media bullying.

If anyone deserves a new home it’s Meghan’s loyal mum! That Pap stunt scam he pulled at her home was invasive and likely placed Doria at risk. She was photographed/filmed right at her front porch as the paps wanted to catch her reaction to her to gift stunt Snr pulled.

Anyone that has a home in Southern Cali could easily sell that home and make a killing! Housing prices are ridiculous. Sr. has two residences and while he was making fake photos of him giving Doria flowers he had a place in Cali to chill out at. All this was while he supposedly had a heart attack??!! But yet the media want to paint him as poor old Pa Markle?!!


He really ruined it. How can they have him at a christening and have to watch every thing they say around him, yet if he is not invited he will call up his buddy Piers.

[American Observer7]

You all, why don't you lay off Meghan's father? Seriously! None of us know Harry, Meghan, or Mr. Markle. He could have spoken to Meghan about the interview prior. And that is her daddy. We don't know anything about what they have talked about or with who. You judge him without knowing anything at all.

[Lady Reem]

Originally Posted by AlowVera

Any money Sr. gets will be trickled down to the siblings. Perhaps that is why Sam brokered this deal because she gets a cut from the interview and ALSO those never seen pics.


After the exclusive his rate will go down. He is no longer a GET. He is not media savvy and looks like you want to get him a beer, couch, TV and just leave him alone.


The next thing left is to sell off the old pictures that we have already seen.


While Sr. was faking photos of him getting measured for a suit it has been reported that Meghan already arranged for him to have a suit fitting in LA. The siblings made claims that Sr. was all on his own but H&M had everything arranged for him and he goes and creates those awful fake pics of him getting measured on the street.



I really feel for Meghan in all this. They know that she can't talk so they used that to play pity politics for cash.

I stated in a post in the last family thread that those scam photos were nothing to do with making him look good and more about presenting an image of being left abandoned and destitute plus obviously getting a big pay day via the Paps. And eventually a financial settlement via royals. That he was in cahoots all along with his eldest daughter (Samantha’s own admission) is all the more disturbing.

[loonytick]

Originally Posted by American Observer7

You all, why don't you lay off Meghan's father? Seriously! None of us know Harry, Meghan, or Mr. Markle. He could have spoken to Meghan about the interview prior. And that is her daddy. We don't anything about what they have talked about or with who. You judge him without knowing anything at all.

He himself said he didn’t run it by Meghan, that he knew she wouldn’t like it, but that he hoped he’d forgive her. It’s not speculation or projection.

[Osipi]

Originally Posted by American Observer7

You all, why don't you lay off Meghan's father? Seriously! None of us know Harry, Meghan, or Mr. Markle. He could have spoken to Meghan about the interview prior. And that is her daddy. We don't anything about what they have talked about or with who. You judge him without knowing anything at all.

We're basing our comments on the words directly from Mr. Markle's mouth in an interview with Piers Morgan on Good Morning Britain. I would have to do an extensive search to find it again but its been stated in several reputable sources that Meghan, Harry and Kensington Palace were *not* advised or given a heads up before this interview aired.

When it all comes directly from the Mr. Markle's mouth and one can actually hear the man state these things, we *do* know what he's talking about.

[Mirabel]

Originally Posted by AlowVera

He really ruined it. How can they have him at a christening and have to watch every thing they say around him, yet if he is not invited he will call up his buddy Piers.

So, invite him.
But wait until the last minute, and leave him to make the arrangements on his own.

I'm betting he'll be a no-show once again.

[ladongas]

If this story is true, the suits which had been made for Mr. Markle were sold at a cut-rate price to a man who wore one of them to Royal Ascot:

PR heavyweight shows off tailcoat that was made for Mr Markle | Daily Mail Online

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...use-cancelled/

[Madame Verseau]

Sr has earned enough money from the pap scam and the GMB interview he can afford the round trip ticket to the UK and the hotel stay. KP staff doesn't need to meet him at Heathrow. But that may be moot
Prince Harry, Meghan Markle May Royally Ban Thomas Markle | Personal Space

Another story about a Sr ban.

Originally Posted by ladongas

If this story is true, the suits which had been made for Mr. Markle were sold at a cut-rate price to a man who wore one of them to Royal Ascot:

PR heavyweight shows off tailcoat that was made for Mr Markle | Daily Mail Online

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...use-cancelled/

I think this is the BRF striking back

Originally Posted by ladongas

If this story is true, the suits which had been made for Mr. Markle were sold at a cut-rate price to a man who wore one of them to Royal Ascot:

PR heavyweight shows off tailcoat that was made for Mr Markle | Daily Mail Online

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...use-cancelled/

I think this is the BRF striking back for the interview. This story is being leaked to a legitimate outlet too. The plan is to discredit Sr in the press. This is chum the BRF threw in the water so the media will go after him. If the tabloids don't bite at least the palace got a lick in.

This just in: Sr wants a family reunion
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mir...e-12776067.amp

The Markles want another payout. Besides Meghan doesn't go anywhere without royal protection officers

[Osipi]

To me, its no big deal if a suit (that was made to order for Tom Markle and was never picked up and used) was sold to somebody else at a reduced price. Far better that the suit came to a good use than collecting dust somewhere in a tailor's back room. I don't think KP or anyone around Meghan was party to this story.

It really is a non story and not exactly breaking news. Obviously, with the items that were being created for Mr. Markle never fitted with him or picked up, I seriously doubt that the tailor, commissioned by Meghan, who it seems works for a very reputable business, would have sold these items to someone else if the order had been completed and paid for.

At least the clothing came to some good use.

Originally Posted by Madame Verseau

This just in: Sr wants a family reunion
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mir...e-12776067.amp

All I can say to this bit of information is that whatever Tom Sr. was smoking when he came out with these "hopes", I want some. Ain't gonna happen Tom. There isn't a sane person in the world that would put themselves in the same room as those half siblings after the crap that they've pulled so far. Just ain't gonna happen. Nope. No way. No sir. No ma'am. Just plain *NO*.

[Purrs]

Originally Posted by Madame Verseau

This just in: Sr wants a family reunion
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mir...e-12776067.amp

Did you see the mention in the article that he's "sick of being stuck in the middle" and wants them to realize "the importance of family" and "bring them all back to together"?

If that's true (and I suspect it's only a guilt trip he's trying to manipulate Meghan) why should Meghan?

That ship has always sailed - Samantha has attacked Meghan over and over and Tom Jr is not much better. IMHO, their behaviour is unforgivable.

As far as being "stuck in the middle", that's his own fault, he put himself there. He has continued to maintain a relationship with Samantha (and taken her advice hurting Meghan and her new in-laws). Samantha has made it her life's mission to try to destroy Meghan. If one of my adult children attacked one of my other adult children like that, I'd cut ties with him/her completely. IMHO he's enabled his other children in their terrible behaviour.

I think he's trying to continue to manipulate Meghan and stretch out his own 15 minutes of fame and make more $$. Dysfunction runs deep with these people.

Thank goodness, Meghan has her mom (and now Harry). The article also states that Meghan didn't see a lot of the horrible things her half siblings said about her prior to the wedding because Prince Harry shielded her. That part I can believe, however I'm very skeptical about Thomas' true motivation