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08-19-2018, 07:34 AM
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Barring Mrs Ragland, the Markles [as a 'Family'] have done NOTHING to recommend themselves to the British or Commonwealth Public's, nor helped THEIR family member in ANY way whatsoever.
It gives me no satisfaction to say it, but 'there it is'..
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08-19-2018, 07:51 AM
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The tabloids are jerking Dad around and he is too vain to see it. One story makes him sympathetic; the next day he is a liar and a villain. "Journalists" like Piers Morgan are using him too for their own agendas and they will throw him away or destroy him when Dad no longer serves their purposes. Meghan sees what the press is doing which is why she is not going after him in the media, BUT Dad turned down help from the palace. He brought this on himself. No one forced him to do these slam interviews so he needs to take responsibility for the public perceptions of him. Any public statements with details from Meghan will not end it, it will prolong it more.
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08-19-2018, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by wyevale
Barring Mrs Ragland, the Markles [as a 'Family'] have done NOTHING to recommend themselves to the British or Commonwealth Public's, nor helped THEIR family member in ANY way whatsoever.
It gives me no satisfaction to say it, but 'there it is'..
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I don't suppose they care, at least the siblings obviously don't. They clearly dislike Meghan very much....
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08-19-2018, 08:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wyevale
Barring Mrs Ragland, the Markles [as a 'Family'] have done NOTHING to recommend themselves to the British or Commonwealth Public's, nor helped THEIR family member in ANY way whatsoever.
It gives me no satisfaction to say it, but 'there it is'..
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But Mr Markle has been fairly ‘harmless’ so far according to some  The overall abusive nature means nothing. His proven lies, the constant inconsistencies/contradictions in his never-ending interviews, denigrating Meghan, dragging her mum through the mud, repeatedly insulting Meghan’s in-laws, revealing Harry’s private discussions (that Markle likely fabricated anyway given his track record )... I mean it’s all just child’s play isn’t it? The distress caused to the newlyweds is nothing
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08-19-2018, 08:20 AM
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You are quite right Lady Reem I used a poor choice of words there. However, i did mean it in a different context. I do have trouble trying to express myself properly at times.
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08-19-2018, 08:26 AM
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Thomas Markle courts media attention, TMZ revealed he contacted them. Instead of letting his daughter & the palace handle things he decided to make the week leading up to the wedding all about him. He literally hijacked the lead up to his daughter’s wedding. How self-centred can one person be, especially after his paparazzi scam debacle?
And that GMB live interview Markle gave not that long ago, he actually volunteered information on Harry’s political views, he wasn’t prompted or asked about it before he opened his greedy mouth for which he received payment. So no, this man is not a kid who’s been exploited as much as some would have people believe that to be the case. I happen to think that man is just incredibly spiteful and self-serving.
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08-19-2018, 08:47 AM
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Tom Snr has talked too much and has contradicted himself many times. It is hard to take this man seriously or feel bad for him. He is an egomaniac lashing out and will continue to do it as long as he feels slighted. He wants them to react to him. He has said it more than once now. They refuse.
I don't see it calming down on the Markles end but come next month the press will have other things to focus on. That will likely frustrate the Markles more once they realize that this "silly season" was their moment but once the royals resume their activities they will become old news.
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08-19-2018, 08:57 AM
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He’s been quoted. The paper could be sued if they made it all up.
His lies just keep tallying up...
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Do you know what $$ it would cost Tom Markle Sr to sue one of the tabloids for one or two things they’ve written that might not be true? His pockets are not that deep.
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08-19-2018, 09:17 AM
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You are quite right Lady Reem I used a poor choice of words there. However, i did mean it in a different context. I do have trouble trying to express myself properly at times.
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I meant in general and not you personally.
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08-19-2018, 10:01 AM
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I really feel bad for Meghan for having to go though this. I know it must be hurtful and downright embarrassing to her on having a parent that has diarrhea of the mouth.
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08-19-2018, 10:45 AM
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I've said here before that IMO, with blabbermouth relatives, you really cannot have a full relationship and that whatever you say, these relatives will leverage that to make you look bad.
That said, I do believe in compassion and forgiveness within limits.
The healthy and assertive way to deal with this would be to meet face to face, on neutral territory and to unemotionally say that you only want a private relationship. And that you will only have a relationship if it remains private. That mutual respect for one another's privacy is the only way forward.
Of course, you have to be willing to face the fallout if the other person decides to publicly spin/lie about this conversation. And it would help if it were facilitated by a professional counselor.
I'm not saying that would work, or that it should be tried with all the Markles. But I just learned that a not-beloved relative is ill and I, myself am rethinking the well-earned frost between us.
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08-19-2018, 12:54 PM
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Rumors of a reality show with three elderly adults without any proper jobs accept lying about a person two of the elderly adults have not spoken to in years. The three elderly adults currently live in different locations so unlike other reality families they don't have their own homes or outside interests. Sounds like the person starting the rumor that newspapers report as truth is just trying to get more attention.
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08-19-2018, 01:35 PM
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A number of posts have been deleted. This is the second time this week that we've had to delete posts that speculated about whether Thomas Sr. is a security threat and whether he would physically harm Meghan (or anyone in the BRF). This type of speculation is not acceptable.
As stated in the last mod note, continued disregard of moderator warnings and requests will see posting privileges suspended for repeat offenders.
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08-19-2018, 02:54 PM
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Rumors of a reality show with three elderly adults without any proper jobs accept lying about a person two of the elderly adults have not spoken to in years. The three elderly adults currently live in different locations so unlike other reality families they don't have their own homes or outside interests. Sounds like the person starting the rumor that newspapers report as truth is just trying to get more attention.
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You must be very young! Samantha and Markle Jr. are not actually elderly. But this does sound like the worst show ever!
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08-19-2018, 03:28 PM
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You must be very young! Samantha and Markle Jr. are not actually elderly. But this does sound like the worst show ever!
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yeah I was wondering who these elderly people were.. Meg is only 37 and Im guessing the other 2 cant' be more than 50
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08-19-2018, 03:33 PM
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Samantha is 17 years older than Meghan but she is not elderly. Thomas Sr? Yes.
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08-19-2018, 03:41 PM
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Samantha is 17 years older than Meghan but she is not elderly. Thomas Sr? Yes.
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Either way in terms of TV anyone older than 40 is elderly. I'm not sure what type of demographic the show will aim for. Shows like Honey Boo Boo feature fairly young people who actually live together as a family. The Kardashians are also young and actually live together in one place. Reality shows also feature characters who have some kind of character. Neither of the members of that family have any real personality, or talent unless you count flip flopping and lying.
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08-19-2018, 03:49 PM
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Attractiveness is also a factor to get people to watch the show. Even when they clean up for the paid interviews Sam, Jr and Sr are not jaw droppers. Wit, intelligence and personality are needed and they come up short in all three.
To show a lack of brains, the Markles are not noticing the content of the media "defense" of Dad:
Has any of the apologists said Dad deserves to have a coat of arms? No.
Have any of them said Dad should have full access to royal property? No.
Have any of them said Dad and the family should be invited to Royal Ascot, Wimbledon, Balmoral, Sandringham? No.
Have any of them said Dad should have access to future royal grandchildren?
No.
Have any of them argued the Markles should enjoy all the royal in law perks like others in the BRF? NO.
And there lies the true feelings of the media defenders of the Markles. Classless poor relations looking for a big score. The establishment goes after Harry and Meghan and KP for not bringing Dad in, which translates to you knew this guy was a problem so you should have got to him early and bought him off. The same for the half sibs, cut them checks and ship them back to Florida, Oregon and Mexico after the wedding. They don't deserve to enjoy the benefits of being royal adjacent in their view. But the Markles deserve the overt and covert contempt that is heaped on them.
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08-19-2018, 04:01 PM
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Eh. I can name many of actors who would disagree with the 40+ is elderly in terms of film/tv. Heck many people hit their peak of role when they hit that 35-45 range. No one calling JLo or Angela Basset elderly.
That said I agree with the idea of Markles on some reality show. They literally have nothing to sell except their hate and frustration of Meghan's new life. That is literally it.
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08-19-2018, 04:03 PM
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Attractiveness is also a factor to get people to watch the show. Even when they clean up for the paid interviews Sam, Jr and Sr are not jaw droppers. Wit, intelligence and personality are needed and they come up short in all three.
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the son can feature his drinking and abusive relationship which in the age of #me too will not be a highlight.
the daughter can highlight her three children that she has not contact with and uses social media to bully her daughter who is 18.
the father leads an exciting social life in Mexico with a friend who is on meth.
Whoever produces this motley crew will have to finance the housing, transportation as well as insurance and bail money. Most reality shows are cheap to produce because they are somewhat real.
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