The Duchess of Sussex: Family and Background

[jacqui24]

There is no need. Despite her best effort not to paint him in a bad light, he just can’t help himself. But I do think remain silent and dignified is the way to go on this issue.

And btw, you might want to delete some of the stuff moved over from the article. Only about 25% or less of the article can be copied over unless written permission was obtained.

[Axeyman]

Does anyone think Tom might have attended Meghan first wedding ceremony with Trevor which took place on the 16th August 2011, prior to the Jamaican one.

[Tarlita]

I am sure it was on these forums where I read that Thomas Markles brother - Sold - his Mexican address to the media, and thats why he wasn't invited to the wedding.

[Rudolph]

I believe he attended the wedding because it would easy to verify. It’s not just his word but there’d be lot of witnesses.

[Tarlita]

It is getting that way now that I don't believe he attended the wedding of Trevor and Meghan... For me it is all made up unless substantially proven...

[Osipi]

On the subject of whether or not Tom, Sr. attended Meghan's first wedding, paid for it by selling Facebook shares (debunked) and whatever, I have two words about that. Who cares. It has absolutely no relevance to Meghan's life today. Its getting to the point that I see the words Thomas Markle, Sr. and my eyes start to glaze over. He's grasping for anything and everything to make him relevant. Up next: "I bought her an ice cream cone 25 summers ago!" I do think people are starting to realize that any Markle, what they do and what they say have absolutely no relevance to the Duchess of Sussex any more than they are relevant to parliamentary procedures.

A reality show? Sure. Why not. Cement the rift between Meghan and her e(strange)d family permanently. They can call it "I knew Meghan once upon a time" and spend each episode detailing how important they were and they still are while the rest of the world chooses to watch something else a bit more entertaining and cerebral. There's been worse on the TV.

One thing is blatantly clear. Meghan is not going to engage these people and get pulled into something that would only lower herself to their level. Her father or not, she's not going to condone his kind of behavior anymore than she would be his accomplice in a bank heist. She is also not going to allow these people to affect her life going forward. She very well could be taking time to spend with her friends and her mother for the simple reason being that she's close to them. They may be newlyweds but, as we've seen during the courtship, they don't have to live in each other's back pockets and have different interests and maintain their individuality.

The more this continues with the e(strange)d family, they may be raking in the green dollars as a circus sideshow but as the years pass, I just hope that they realize just what they have thrown away. Especially Thomas Sr. He may have a rude awakening one day and see just what family he does have and the family he could have had but through his own actions, has set things into motion that can never, ever be repaired.

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One thing that is true though for me is that this whole thing with the Markles since the wedding has been entertaining. Like watching a slapstick comedy from the 1950s or a Jerry Lewis movie. I can't take these people seriously in any way, shape or form and what they get up to, what they say, what they invent for green dollars is so outrageous one realizes that you just can't make this stuff up and these people are serious hangers on. That, to me, is a sad and pathetic waste of energy but I guess misery sells and should they aspire to be the next Honey Boo Boo, that's their prerogative and their choice.

To the Markles: Just get on with it, do whatever you want to with your 15 minutes of fame but leave Meghan out of it. Oh wait! They do that and they're nobodies once again.

[Fros]

I would also like to remind everyone that all the Markles have at one claimed to have attended Meghan's first wedding. Yes even Sam at one point claimed or strongly implied she was at the first wedding (she later contradicted herself saying she didn't) When Tom Jr claimed to have attended the 1st wedding Sam backed him and said he did. I am absolutely sure Tom Sr. was not at the first wedding.

[Osipi]

I think anything and everything to do with Meghan's first marriage and who attended or who didn't and who got drunk and threw up in the potted plant belongs in the ancient history thread on a forum far, far away.

There's just no real relevance to today's world and where Meghan is now in her life.

[Madame Verseau]

That statement about not being critical of Dad, it sounds like there is more to Dad and Meghan and the palace have receipts. If this is told to a legitimate paper it's sanctioned. The Markles wouldn't survive an interview with a real journalist because he or she will fact check them during the course of the interview.

[Fros]

Originally Posted by Madame Verseau

That statement about not being critical of Dad, it sounds like there is more to Dad and Meghan and the palace have receipts. If this is told to a legitimate paper it's sanctioned. The Markles wouldn't survive an interview with a real journalist because he or she will fact check them during the course of the interview.

I have no doubt the palace has all the receipts they need to bury Tom Markle. It seems right now they taking a cue from Meghan on how to deal with her family and Meghan doesn't want to release the information because she truly sees it as a personal issue not a PR issue.

Now the truth is it a bit of a PR issue because the perception is the Markles are running circles around the palace who are unable to stop them.

[JessRulz]

Posts about Meghan visiting Toronto, and Harry and Meghan in Scotland, have been moved to the http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...8-a-44861.html thread.

[Osipi]

That's true of any real investigative journalist and I agree that none of Meghan's e(strange)d family would be able to stand a real journalist separating the wheat from the chaff in what these people spout out of their mouths.

They're playing to the tabloids that thrive on circus sideshows and leave real journalism to the professionals. Tabloid reporters don't check facts such as to when Facebook shares went public but print it anyways. We, here, have seen it debunked just by people that have common sense.

I think its a good idea to keep the caliber of the press that are thriving on these stories presented by the Markles and my grandmother's wise saying comes into play here. Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear.

[Lady Nimue]

Originally Posted by ACO

You don't have to like or dislike her. It just not into downplaying stuff she did because people are convinced she spent her life trying to bag a prince. She was involved in a lot of charity work for years. It had nothing to do with Harry. Her volunteering at the food banks and organizing the left over craft services from her set to be sent to shelters wasn't some grand scheme to grab the attention of the royal family 4 years before she met Harry.

Also I don't think anyone is claiming she was some A list actress but she was on a hit and long running show. A show that is still airing and likely she would still be on. Actors evolve. She clearly was pursuing other avenues. Who knows what her next plan would have been. She was very, very close to with the head of NBC Universal. She knew a lot of producers and directors. That comes in handy when looking for work. It wouldn't have been unrealistic for her to land another show. Example: Her good friend Abigail went from Suits to Timeless and just announced a new show. It is about who you know.

So yes her walking away from something she worked a long time to get is hard. I don't think she has regrets because she has gained a lot but Meghan also sacrificed plenty.

Exactly! Well said. I don't think it is fully appreciated how hard it is to make it in this business, and to get as far as Meghan got. Also, Meghan did it without any tabloid stunts. None. That's impressive and tells me a lot about who she is.

Originally Posted by ladyjolene

My BA and MA degrees are in communications. I'm falling on deaf ears here, but it's obvious. I don't doubt she had done charity in the past, but it REALLY got publicised once she dated him. She was an actress with a team. Yes, she just down social media, but that doesn't mean her PR team wasn't working and leaking. I'll bow out now. If you've been in the PR biz, you can recognize it. As I've said before, I don't dislike her, but you can see it.

How is it 'obvious'? I think the questions asked were valid. Would still like you to explain what you saw as 'obvious'. I've been around PR to some little extent (by no means do I know all the ins and outs as you must) and what I saw was Meghan fulfilling already established gigs (connected to Suits) but she otherwise completely shut down all other PR events. I would also question if someone at her level has a 'team' handling PR. Her agent, maybe a publicist, but mainly it would have been Meghan calling the shots. (She would have been under the umbrella of the Suits PR team always with an eye to the show).

[Lady Nimue]

Regarding these tabloid articles, now one with the uncle: keep in mind how oily-salesman-like these tabloid types are. They really do 'seduce' unsuspecting interviewees to say stuff that they can then twist to make out that something else was meant. It really does happen that way. This is not Walter Cronkite sitting down to allow the interviewee to 'get their story told'. Not at all. It's to get enough material to be able to support the dramatic spin, not 'the truth so help me God'.

I will quote from Wikipedia regarding the Loaded Question:

"A loaded question, or the complex question fallacy, is a question that contains a controversial or unjustified assumption (e.g., a presumption of guilt). Aside from being an informal fallacy depending on usage, such questions may be used as a rhetorical tool: the question attempts to limit direct replies to be those that serve the questioner's agenda. The traditional example is the question "Have you stopped beating your wife?" Whether the respondent answers yes or no, he will admit to having a wife and having beaten her at some time in the past. Thus, these facts are presupposed by the question, and in this case an entrapment, because it narrows the respondent to a single answer, and the fallacy of many questions has been committed. The fallacy relies upon context for its effect."

I would not take anything the tabloids report anyone saying as legit, especially in this faux 'news' cycle. JMO.

[Lady Reem]

Originally Posted by Curryong

Tom, he states in the DM article that he paid for his share of the cost of Meghan's first wedding by selling Facebook shares. The wedding was in September 2011. Facebook didn't become a public company until mid-2012!

So, Tom, a bald faced lie, huh, unless the fiction-based Fail made that comment up. Samantha in one of her Tweets months ago stated categorically that none of the Markles went to the first wedding, and it's odd that Tom has no photos to share of the occasion. Also, a nice posed photo there of Tom, in a Mexican pharmacy.

He’s been quoted. The paper could be sued if they made it all up.
His lies just keep tallying up...

[Osipi]

... and the interviews just keep on coming. its been stated that the only reason for this latest interview is because he wants to clear up lies and tall tales that have appeared in the press about him. He's on the tabloid merry-go-round and the more he opens his mouth, the more the tabloids have to work with and stretch what he says, exaggerate things and all to the advantage of the tabloids who know that by doing this, they're egging Tom, Sr. on to rant more and more. They got the man exactly where they want him.

Daddy dearest just cannot see this and Samantha would sell him out for a few more green dollars. This is a mess that they've created all by themselves and nothing that they say or do will ever "set things straight".

Tom, Sr.'s credibility rating is spiraling towards a 0% rating to be believed. Sam's already there and heading into the negative numbers.

[Denville]

Originally Posted by Axeyman

Does anyone think Tom might have attended Meghan first wedding ceremony with Trevor which took place on the 16th August 2011, prior to the Jamaican one.

How many weding ceremonies did she have?

[Osipi]

From what I understand, Trevor and Meghan had a civil ceremony in California and then had a wedding ceremony/reception in Jamaica with family and friends. I could be totally wrong on this but its what I remember reading somewhere.

[Rudolph]

“The newlyweds, who are said to be waiting for the 74 year old to approach them in a 'respectful manner', will not try to 'set the record straight', reports the Sunday Times.”

“The only reason Meghan hasn't spoken to her father yet is because she's yet to hear from him in a respectful manner,' a source told DailyMail.com earlier this week”

Prince Harry and Meghan 'are not going to engage' in war of words with her father | Daily Mail Online

So this suggests that once he calms down, they will probably meet with him, or at least make contact.

Provided the story is true.

[Tarlita]

At the moment TM is fairly harmless. I imagine he would be a lot worse if he were a keyboard warrior with a twitter account.