The Duchess of Sussex: Family and Background - Page 111

Lady Nimue · #**2201** 08-18-2018, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Pranter

Again I said by TV standards it is very little money. You have some TV actors making 1 million per episode. I wasn't comparing her income to the average person. LaRae

My point was that by television standards she was doing just fine.

That is good money for someone of her status at the time she was doing Suits. IMO. The million dollar an episode is celebrity money on a significant series, and is less the norm for the working actor. Meghan, for a working actor, was making good pay. I was contradicting you.

Denville · #**2202** 08-18-2018, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Osipi

To me, that wasn't PR but rather both of them knowing where the relationship was heading and getting all their ducks in a row bit by bit before any public engagment was announced.

They did their very best to exclude the public from the lead up to the engagement and kept it private. They did a good job of it too.

I wish they were as good now, but I suppose they can't control her family, But my point was that she knew if she was going to be a part of the RF, she had to drop the publicity seeking she did as an actress, so she had to close her blog nad so on...

Osipi · #**2203** 08-18-2018, 05:10 AM

Exactly. That's why I see it as her preparing to join the ranks of the BRF and it wasn't a PR stunt to influence the public or anyone else. These two people knew where they were heading long before the public were presented with the fait accompli.

Denville · #**2204** 08-18-2018, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Osipi

Exactly. That's why I see it as her preparing to join the ranks of the BRF and it wasn't a PR stunt to influence the public or anyone else. These two people knew where they were heading long before the public were presented with the fait accompli.

I should say it was PR, it was tryng to show the public that she knew how to act when she became Royal, and to counteract the dreadful behaviour of her family which Im sure she knew was going to come out and get worse, wit her approaching marriage....

Osipi · #**2205** 08-18-2018, 06:50 AM

We'll just have to leave it at that. We can't speculate on things we really don't know about but only about things that we know for sure are facts.

Denville · #**2206** 08-18-2018, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Osipi

We'll just have to leave it at that. We can't speculate on things we really don't know about but only about things that we know for sure are facts.

How can you speculate about facts? Facts are facts, they are there, and proven....

O-H Anglophile · #**2207** 08-18-2018, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Denville

How can you speculate about facts? Facts are facts, they are there, and proven....

How is it a fact to say that Meghan was working to prove she could act like a Royal to counteract her family’s bad behavior, which hadn't ocurred yet? (well, other than Samantha a bit, but she just sounded jealous and bitter.) That is speculation.

The facts are Harry and Meghan knew within a couple months they were serious and Meghan began shutting down her public life as an actress to move into her new life with Harry after her contract with Suits ended.

Dman · #**2208** 08-18-2018, 08:30 AM

Our paths are carved for us, we just travel the journeys.

Pranter · #**2209** 08-18-2018, 08:36 AM

Harry and Meghan were lucky enough (smart enough) to keep their relationship under wraps for about 6 months...they knew by 6 months they were headed toward marriage.

Everything after it went public her life was pulled back and under radar...her public accounts were shut down and she ended their contracts. They took things public again with the Vogue (I think it was Vogue) interview and then shortly after the I.G. appearance.

She had approval from the Queen way before all this...Harry even said his grandparents were the only ones who knew about them for awhile.

They had a plan and a timetable and they followed it.

LaRae

Osipi · #**2210** 08-18-2018, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Dman

Our paths are carved for us, we just travel the journeys.

As much as I like your line of thought, I kind of prefer Ralph's "Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail."

To me this exemplifies Meghan. She was willing to risk everything, give up her career, her place of residence, her activism to follow her heart to the UK and forge a new path. Both Harry and Meghan took a leap of faith together into the future. How can they lose when they're so sincere?

M. Payton · #**2211** 08-18-2018, 09:21 AM

And if there is anyway to research Meghan's Tig account even though it is closed there is a very telling post that she made right after her divorce and it shows what she learned to make her the person she is today. A very strong precise woman who knows herself and the standards that she has set for herself then and they are instilled in her today.....I would venture to say Meghan is *tough as nails* in all that she takes on in life and more so now with Harry....

Denville · #**2212** 08-18-2018, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by O-H Anglophile

How is it a fact to say that Meghan was working to prove she could act like a Royal to counteract her family’s bad behavior, which hadn't ocurred yet? (well, other than Samantha a bit, but she just sounded jealous and bitter.) That is speculation.

The facts are Harry and Meghan knew within a couple months they were serious and Meghan began shutting down her public life as an actress to move into her new life with Harry after her contract with Suits ended.

I didn't say it was a fact, it is a fact that she stopped her blog and publicity things.. but IMO she did it to show that she knew the score as a future royal..and had to stop doing publicity things. I was saying that one can't speculate on facts, because they are facts... One can speculate on why things were done or what people's motives are....
Other people have a different opinion on why Meghan does various things....

O-H Anglophile · #**2213** 08-18-2018, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dman

Our paths are carved for us, we just travel the journeys.

I do not believe in predestination-I believe in free will and the ability to make choices when two or more paths are open.

Meghan had choices and chose the path with Harry and his world.

JessRulz · #**2214** 08-18-2018, 09:42 AM

This thread has been reopened to allow the new line of discussion re: Meghan's career to be in the correct place.

One important moderator note regarding any discussion of the Markles going forward: it is mandatory to follow moderator instructions. The thread was closed earlier this week for the repeated disregard to moderator warnings and requests. Going forward, this continued behaviour may see posting privileges suspended for repeat offenders.

Also - we keep seeing people ask "Why does the media keep giving airtime to the Markles?". The answer is simple: because they generate clicks and hits, which equal money. The amount of posts in this thread only highlight how 'popular' the topic is, and the media don't necessarily care if people are for or against the "Markle Debacle" as long as they are making money from it. So perhaps we should all rethink posting every single article mentioning the Markles, many from questionable sources, that comes across our radar.

XeniaCasaraghi · #**2215** 08-18-2018, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JessRulz

So perhaps we should all rethink posting every single article mentioning the Markles, many from questionable sources, that comes across our radar.

THANK YOU!!!! Been saying this for a month.

Madame Verseau · #**2216** 08-18-2018, 10:17 AM

I'm not linking articles but I would like to comment.

Dad's latest interview has him complaining about the royals acting like a cult, like Scientologists, putting up a wall of silence, having a "secret handshake". Dad got money for this but it didn't help his image or get him sympathy judging by comments. Some of the comments are starting to get scary and for that reason Dad needs to fall back. The BRF is not going to supply him with security after all he has done.

Sam didn't make onto Celebrity Big Brother. I think the network heads realized she was a financial liability in terms of exposure to a lawsuit, loss of viewers and advertisiers, and restrictions from royals and future royal events. I also think she won't be the mystery house mate. She is not worth it.

In the end money is going to determines the tabloids' interests. So far the gossip press has "invested" thousands of dollars in the disgruntled Markles and they are not getting any thing in return like responses and fresh stories. When the books are reviewed and it's found money has been loss covering the Markle Debacle they will back off.

Chloep · #**2217** 08-18-2018, 10:25 AM

Please...imo, no one cares about this pathetic excuse of a parent enough for him to need security. He is unravelling because he knows fully well that he'll never have anything to do with Meghan and her new family - not because he loves and misses her, but because he wanted the ego and image boost. He gets the $ by going to the trash papers and that's all he wants. He sealed his own fate a LONG time ago when it comes to Meghan.

I also doubt that Samantha was EVER approached to be on CBB. They never had someone with her condition on the show, she'd be outright uninsurable just because of that - and this on top of casting her having very, very little pay off but a mountain of potential drawbacks. This whole rumour was started by no one else but Sammy herself.

Osipi · #**2218** 08-18-2018, 10:29 AM

The more Meghan's dad talks, the more he's proving to the world that Meghan and her new family are right to not respond to him. He's getting to the point where his statements don't make any kind of real sense at all and he's just raging like an angry bull who is all steamed up with no place to go.

I sincerely believe too that Samantha didn't make the cut for Celebrity Big Brother mainly because other than her vendetta against Meghan, there is nothing else about her that is interesting. From the quick glance at the participants that are in the house, they at least have some kind of a real background of their own merit. So no surprise that there's no Sam.

Meghan and Harry have enough on their plates and plans for the future and things they want to see and do and perhaps a family in the future. Meghan has a lot of loving support behind her and she's a strong woman that isn't going to collapse into a fit of the vapors over any of this. She'll be just fine.

M. Payton · #**2219** 08-18-2018, 10:29 AM

Okay, I am going to post a link here that I referred to in my comment 2211 above and hope it passes muster with the mods.....this is something that Meghan learned after her divorce and what and how she is the person she is today.......I think it says a lot about her and they are most surely *Words of Wisdom*.....and anybody can learn from this......

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/70...quote-the-tig/

Osipi · #**2220** 08-18-2018, 10:39 AM

Those really are amazing words to live by. Self affirmations such as this when repeated or read often enough become a way of living healthily. I would love to see Meghan pass these words on with the work the Royal Foundation does for mental health awareness. They're well worth repeating over and over and over again.