Prince Harry: Relationship Suggestions and Musings 2016-2017

[ROYAL NORWAY]

Here's a thought: what if Meghan said: okay, m'love, I'll live with you, be your mistress across years, even lets have babies, but no marriage, no royal balcony scenes with me on your arm. Would that even be possible?

Yes it's possible, but not likely to happen.

If she thinks that then she shouldn't consent to be his wife...She would be marrying someone with [essentially] a 'vocation'.. if she can't 'hack it' she's not the right partner for him..

Couldn't agree more!

It's possible. The only 'downside' is Harry's children wouldn't be in the line of succession, but given that they will never be anywhere near the throne, it doesn't really matter.

Agrees!

Another downside is his father could disapprove of the situation and cut of his funding and kick him out of royal housing.

Charles is no animal, so he would never do that.

Yes it's possible.. BUT Not only would there be disapproval from his father, but also [crucially] from HMQ and [very likely] from the Cambridges'. Anything remotely controversial, and this would be, is deeply unwelcome in 'the firm'.
Not just within the Royal Family, The public here is noted for its tendency to enjoy 'knocking people off the pedestals' on which they themselves have raised their idols, and Harry would face quite a backlash...And once the press got going on Meghan, who knows how vicious they might become if denied the 'fairytale' wedding they and their readership wants ?

"Mrs Simpson pinched our King", mark two....

Agrees!

 

[Pranter]

If she wasn't interested in marriage with Harry they would of already gone their separate ways.


LaRae

 

[Cocoasneeze]

If Meghan wasn't interested in marrying Harry, she would've walked away with the first wave of the media harassment. She's Imo very serious with him. Added, that I think the way Harry handled it (the media storm) and has been acting with meghan has been simply fantastic, he's shown her and the viewing audience, that hell go to great lengths for her, as she does for him. I'm still betting on the end of the year 2017 engagement, 2018 wedding.

 

[O-H Anglophile]

If Meghan wasn't interested in marrying Harry, she would've walked away with the first wave of the media harassment. She's Imo very serious with him. Added, that I think the way Harry handled it (the media storm) and has been acting with meghan has been simply fantastic, he's shown her and the viewing audience, that hell go to great lengths for her, as she does for him. I'm still betting on the end of the year 2017 engagement, 2018 wedding.

I agree with everything you've written.

 

[Pranter]

Yep ditto to what Cocoasneeze said.



LaRae

 

[Denville]

Of course it wouldn't be possible. And meghan may nto be brain of America, but I'm sure she's not so foolish as ot settle for being a mistress rather than a Princess. If she's ambitious, she'll want the whole bag..
Charles certainly would not allow such a situation.

 

[Madame Verseau]

Meghan would not settle for being a "sidepiece" or maitresse on titre (the official mistress). She'll take it slow with Harry but if too much time passes and Harry will not put a ring on it (sovereign consent or not) she'll leave.

 

[Osipi]

Its just been suggested that they *could* go that route without marriage. There are many unconventional relationships these days. People do what they're comfortable with.

I really don't see a marriage though between Harry and Meghan for any other reason that they want to be partners in life and share each other's lives and have a family. The externals such as titles, money, fame, prestige and whatever else would only be secondary externals that comes from their union.

The fact that they love each other will be the *only* primary reason they'll walk down the aisle together.

At least that's what I think.

 

[Mirabel]

Here's a thought: what if Meghan said: okay, m'love, I'll live with you, be your mistress across years, even lets have babies, but no marriage, no royal balcony scenes with me on your arm. Would that even be possible?

I suppose anything is possible, but why settle for that?
It's not like the press will leave her alone if she's his mistress instead of his wife! They'll conclude the RF is ashamed of her and wants to keep her in the background, and who needs that?

If they decide they want to be together, I hope it's all or nothing!

 

[Countessmeout]

Another downside is his father could disapprove of the situation and cut of his funding and kick him out of royal housing.

Housing maybe, but he would have the same funding he has now. His trust funds from mom and great grandma. If he isn't a working royal any more, he wouldn't need money from Charles or the queen for staff. Besides, right now it's granny in charge of housing and the rest. Until she dies, it's her good side he need stay on.

Honestly if grandma or Charles had issues, they wouldn't have allowed the relationship to go on so long. Either Harry knows he doesn't have their blessing and is already preparing for private life. Or he knows he will have it.

 

[American Observer7]

If Meghan wasn't interested in marrying Harry, she would've walked away with the first wave of the media harassment. She's Imo very serious with him. Added, that I think the way Harry handled it (the media storm) and has been acting with meghan has been simply fantastic, he's shown her and the viewing audience, that hell go to great lengths for her, as she does for him. I'm still betting on the end of the year 2017 engagement, 2018 wedding.

I agree with this totally! Many of you all here are so negative more so than other sites. Geez! It goes way beyond just expressing an opinion. It's a shame. Meghan has the world's most eligible bachelor and so many are jealous that it's not them in regards to the women that is.

If Meghan were going to walk away, she would have done it way before now. I mean she said no to a VERY LUCRATIVE clothing design contract and too long ago.

 

[AristoCat]

At this point in time I do think that they are in fact at a point where they will likely become engaged. While I do think there has to be more than love; I do believe that marriage needs to be more than just love and affection, but genuine respect and appreciation and Meg needs to avoid trying to make herself into any kind of star. Harry is the one she has to promote, not herself.

 

[Pranter]

Most folks, especially those in their age group, realize you need more than the emotions and feelings of love to make things work. There needs to be similar goals, beliefs and views oh how to go about making a long term marriage work. Do they want the same things? Are they willing to deal with all the negatives and support one another thru it all.

Based on what we know about both of them (their interviews and various times they've talked about these personal subjects) they seem to want the same things they appear to be compatible.

You don't fly back and forth to Canada/England for a relationship that you think has no future.


LaRae

 

[AristoCat]

Fully AGREE!

They need to be on the same wavelength and need to be on the same page. No expectations over how life is supposed to go and both need to have common interests and goals and have the same fundamental temperament. They need to be honest and upfront about many things, not just bringing out the best side of each other. Passion and drama just exhausts a person if there's too much of it.

 

[sndral]

I'm not sure if that was ever actually set to happen or if it was speculation from "sources" in the tabloids.

Prince Harry's Future Half African, Half Jewish American Wife, Who's Also a Divorcée? - Royal FoiblesRoyal Foibles


Has anyone else read this article? Very interesting read. It's all about a possible internal conflict at BP/KP over Harry and Meghan's relationship and "informal engagement". I have no idea if it's true, but it brought up some perspectives that I had never considered.

I seriously doubt that the writer has any inside sources, let alone ones who socialize in Royal circles - The writer claims that the Prince of Wales staff @ KP did various things - the Prince of Wales staff is based at Clarence House, not KP. If the writer can't get a very simple fact like that right, I suggest the unverifiable balcony of the rest of the article is the product of the writer's imagination & nothing more.

 

[Lady Nimue]

At this point in time I do think that they are in fact at a point where they will likely become engaged.

I think Harry wanted Meghan at the wedding. Pippa obliged. Wisely, Meghan agreed to the evening reception, or both Harry and Meghan chose that venue, because that would be a way of meeting the pertinent family members (William and Kate, but also an important family in Harry's life - the Middletons) but they made certain that there would be no pictures. Why? Because they are not yet at the engagement stage. When they start being free-wheeling about their being together in public, then we have an imminent engagement, methinks. Just a thought.

While I do think there has to be more than love; I do believe that marriage needs to be more than just love and affection, but genuine respect and appreciation and Meg needs to avoid trying to make herself into any kind of star. Harry is the one she has to promote, not herself.

Well, we both know, Meghan will be a star as a Duchess. No getting around it. She is beautiful, can dress with style, and is adept at crowd pleasing. I'm sure she will support Harry, but I will be very disappointed if she becomes the 'good little wifey'. She has a career. She's suddenly going to become a housewife? Metaphorically speaking, you know what I mean.

 

[Pranter]

If she is ready for a change and wants to be a house wife that's up to her...and no one should give her any flack about it. She may be ready to get off the career track and look at raising a family for awhile.

I firmly think, if they marry, she and Harry will join together and focus on charity works...she can easily step back and have a child or two and work with Harry and/or on her own causes.


LaRae

 

[Countessmeout]

She isn't going to be a housewife if she married. She will be expected to be a working royal. And not simply supporting Harry either. As the numbers slim, Harrys wife will be expected to take on a number of patronages and roles of her own. When Charles is king that will increase, even with small children.

She will never be a stay at home mom brought out as escort to her husband for major events. Just as Sophie, Diana and Anne had to balance babies and a royal role, so will Meghan. Kate got it a bit easier.

When William is Prince of Wales he will have to take over his father's role. With no new royals joining, and the old ones retiring, Harry will have major slack to fill. The thought his wife won't have charities of her own is amusing.

 

[Madame Verseau]

I am curious to see which charities that Meghan would handle if there is a marriage.

Side note: I went on Harry's Wikipedia page and Meghan is listed there in the "Relationship" section, along with Chelsy Davy and Cressida Bonas. Meaningless flings and one night stands would not get a mention unless they are pre-cursors to a major scandal.

 

[Countessmeout]

I am curious to see which charities that Meghan would handle if there is a marriage.

Side note: I went on Harry's Wikipedia page and Meghan is listed there in the "Relationship" section, along with Chelsy Davy and Cressida Bonas. Meaningless flings and one night stands would not get a mention unless they are pre-cursors to a major scandal.

And which of those three was there concern may have simply been a fling or one night stand

There is no hard set rules on wiki. Even rumored relationships are often mentioned on pages. Having been reported as dating, for any period of time, would get you mentioned on wiki. It's not any real sign of seriousness.


http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/life/810327/meghan-markle-prince-harry-norfolk


If to be believed.....nothing too big at all. Guest only has eight bedroom, five reception rooms and a guest house with a further three bedrooms and three reception. Very quaint and humble.

http://www.countrylife.co.uk/proper...e-and-property-news/the-lure-of-the-east-7959

 

[MaiaMia_53]

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@MaiaMia_53 -They tried the "she looks good on paper" narrative on Diana for Charles (right aristocratic background, virgin, etc.) and look how that turned out. Frankly, I thought no American woman, regardless of background, would have a shot at marrying a British prince because of Wallis Simpson, but here we are. Those that are being salty about Meghan may have issue about a woman of color possibly becoming a royal duchess and marrying relatively close to the throne (but not showing it). There is no chance of Harry becoming king, and even so, Meghan should not be viewed as a constitutional crisis. To me the main criterion to become a consort to a royal is not having anything in your past that would be an embarrassment to the Crown and poorly reflect on the U.K. Criminality should be a non starter. Meghan has qualities and experiences that would be an asset to her in working for the Firm, but she still needs to get familiar with the protocol and keeps elements of herself that make her unique. I think that's possible now.

off topic - if Harry and Meghan make it official the new bride gets her own coat of arms and monogram. For the monogram, would it be R for Rachel, her first name or M? Or a combination of both? For her CofA, her background would be reflected. I'm not sure U.S. symbols would be used (bald eagle, part of the U.S. flag), but what about California, her birth state? Here are some of the symbols of California:

State animal - grizzly bear
State flower - California poppy
State nickname - The Golden State
State motto - Eureka (I found it - referring to the gold found in California)

I think RMMW for the monogram and perhaps a lioness for the animal because Meghan's astrological birthdate sign is Leo.

BTW, Harry's birthdate sign is Virgo (close to being a Libra); to be honest though, it's not always about only the birthdate sign, there are other astrological influences based on time of birth, etc. that help determine compatibility. Nonetheless, here's the Leo/Virgo outlook:

"Leo is extroverted, dominant, and charismatic, and often has a short fuse. Virgo is studious and withdrawn, possessed of more versatility than Leo. Although there are differences, they make a wonderful love match when each partner warms up to the other's unfamiliar style."

 

[MaiaMia_53]

Of course it wouldn't be possible. And meghan may nto be brain of America, but I'm sure she's not so foolish as ot settle for being a mistress rather than a Princess. If she's ambitious, she'll want the whole bag..
Charles certainly would not allow such a situation.

I don't think Prince Harry would allow such a situation either! And I doubt the thought ever crossed his mind. It's only being proposed by speculators here, but there's all kinds of speculation going on everywhere.

We really have no idea how this couple are together in private, but I tend to think it's different from what many of us might imagine because bottom line, we don't really know either of them intimately. Some of the clues that I am relying on are based on the comments leaked by friends of Harry's, obviously with his approval:

"Harry is besotted... they are comfortable together... as if they've known each other for a long time. They are deeply happy..."

 

[Curryong]

Meghan does have a Leo sun sign but has more signs in Libra, an air sign. Funnily enough, Chelsy was a Libran sun (and other planets in that sign) so Harry may be attracted to that.

I think a grizzly with a gold nugget would do fine. What about a touch of Canada, and Toronto in particular? After all, Meghan has spent six years there. Two bears perhaps?

 

[Countessmeout]

Could do a bear on the bottom, for both California and Ontario flags

And then a poppy up in one corner for California and a trillium for Ontario in other.

 

[MaiaMia_53]

Meghan does have a Leo sun sign but has more signs in Libra, an air sign. Funnily enough, Chelsy was a Libran sun (and other planets in that sign) so Harry may be attracted to that.
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That's interesting. Leo mixed with Libra is irresistible...

More details: https://www.astromatcha.com/astrology-compatibility/leo-compatibility/leo-and-virgo-compatibility/

Sounds like a great match to me. "When this partnership works well, each partner will bring out the best in each other." Leo can show Virgo a joyful way of life, while Virgo can bring a calming influence and a no-nonsense love and perspective. Apparently Virgo flourishes upon feeling needed while both Leo and Virgo are straightforward emotionally ... Leo exuberance & joy met by Virgo's discriminating depth & sincerity.

 

[Lady Nimue]

I don't think Prince Harry would allow such a situation either! And I doubt the thought ever crossed his mind. It's only being proposed by speculators here, but there's all kinds of speculation going on everywhere.

Ahem *cough* Had no idea it would cause such a stir. Just rambling with ideas.

We really have no idea how this couple are together in private, but I tend to think it's different from what many of us might imagine because bottom line, we don't really know either of them intimately. Some of the clues that I am relying on are based on the comments leaked by friends of Harry's, obviously with his approval:

"Harry is besotted... they are comfortable together... as if they've known each other for a long time. They are deeply happy..."

Nicely said, and the quoted comments are very sweet. We know Harry is smitten. Let's hope it's mutual, for his sake. From the comments sounds like it is. Good news. Maybe an engagement is not far off.

 

[MaiaMia_53]

Yes, those comments have appeared along with similar ones in a number of articles, citing royal sources, so apparently approved by Harry and Meghan.

Here's one of articles:
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle Are 'Deeply Happy'

Another quote:
"Despite the distance, the media attention and everything else, there’s a real ease to their relationship, it just works...”

And the source had this to say about Meghan:
“She is incredibly cool and down-to-earth. She has a wonderful warmth to her and a bright smile. It’s very easy to see why Harry was so drawn to her."

This Instagram of a quote Meghan is impressed by was posted by her in April 2016 before she met Prince Harry. It seems kind of prophetic, wouldn't you say (although it could resonate for anyone and everyone):

https://www.instagram.com/p/BEToqt_GBBj/

 

[Denville]

Based on what we know about both of them (their interviews and various times they've talked about these personal subjects) they seem to want the same things they appear to be compatible.

You don't fly back and forth to Canada/England for a relationship that you think has no future.


LaRae

why not? They have money to burn. He has not got a full rota of duties.. THey can spend as much time with each other as her career will allow easily because they are well off enough to fly back and forth. But a long distance relationship isn't necessarily a good foundation for a marriage that will be very much scrutinised and will be a big leap for Megan
Do they want the same things? I Don't know. If she's an actress, I presume she likes to act and she wont be able to do that. If she like America or Canada, she will have to leave there and live in the UK.
And I don't believe the RF would sanction a long standing "mistress" relationship.. and Harry would be deterred from undertaking it. He has money true but if he wants to go on being a working Prince.. if he wants to be a royal in good standing with his family, he will either marry Meghan or just let the relationship end in due course...

 

[Osipi]

Their relationship to me is like working together on a jigsaw puzzle. Harry has some of the pieces and Meghan has some of the pieces and what they're doing as time passes is making the big picture out of them. If their pieces all fit together snugly without any pieces missing, it'll form the picture of their marriage.

They both have had busy, successful lives with dreams, ambitions and goals of what they're looking for in life along with life's ups and downs and upside downs and those all make for pieces of their puzzle. In this relationship, if the puzzle is finished and the picture is clear, all those little, individual pieces will show a picture of a strong marriage that is based on the both of them rather than the individuals. They both created it.

From there, should they marry, its time to start new puzzles. The working together puzzle, the family puzzle and whatever puzzle they want to build a picture of. They may find the marriage puzzle to be incomplete and not such a pretty picture that they can live with so they'd take their pieces, go separate ways and try again with someone else.

Some people do jigsaw puzzle, some paint with oils and some make mosaics out of ceramic tiles but a relationship is always painting a picture.

 

[Ish]

That's an absolutely beautiful metaphor, Osipi.