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12-11-2016, 12:15 AM
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you should edit that to say British Princess of Color, because there are already European Princesses of Color.
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I agree. But I added that because she is American born, like British-Americans living in the US. Born and raised in Britain but later became American citizens. If she marries Harry, my understanding is that she'll remain a US citizen but also be given British citizenship?
That was my only thinking behind my post.
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12-11-2016, 12:57 AM
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I actually did some searching earlier and if she was to marry Harry, she could have dual citizenship in the UK and in the US. Grace Kelly did the same when she married Ranier.
That's my understanding anyways.
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12-11-2016, 01:19 AM
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Depends on the country they marry into I believe. Mary had to give up her citizenship, on the other hand maxima has dual. Philip has given up his Greek citizenship and titles but certainly the attitudes were different back then. Meghan won't be alone in the foreign department, though beyond Philip, closest to the throne. We have two Canadians (autumn and the countess of state Andrews) and one kiwi (Gary Lewis).
I do believe the us though is not a fan of dual citizenship. An American citizen who applies for foreign citizenship can have their American citizenship removed. It seems to be a question of dual loyalties. It isn't always the case, and perhaps with a British citizenship it wouldn't raise concern, but there is always that,
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12-11-2016, 02:56 AM
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UK allows double citizenship, and usually USA does too, unless they act in a way that suggests, that they do not wish to have American citizenship.
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12-11-2016, 09:21 AM
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I doubt she does not quit her acting career, she's not a Meryl Streep. She admitted that she has a hard time getting good roles because of her ethnicity, the acting career is fickle, only if she's an idiot (and I'm sure she's not), she'll give up on Harry because of her career. The fact that she's American, freedom of speech and blah blah blah, is not a problem, Grace Kelly was not American? She did not adapt? Distance is not a problem, either. We are not talking about ordinary people, we are talking about a prince and an actress, they can meet anywhere in the world at any time I honestly think the only thing that could ruin this relationship is his family does not accept her, But even this, I find it difficult to happen
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12-11-2016, 09:21 AM
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Because so many are against her for stupid reasons, the primaries being that she is half black and American to boot. Secondly, I am sick of reading that it's too soon etc. as if they had a say in what is soon enough. You may think it's too soon but chances are Harry would disagree and he would not care what you thought about this. He is going to what he wants and with his grandmother's blessing if she hasn't given it to him already.
I use "You" for generally speaking by the way...
Anyway, I also support this because I called this, I said that Harry would fall for an American woman and he has. So many doubted the possibility.
And finally, the prospect of seeing the first British/American Princess of color is exciting to me especially since so many are against her.
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I can see why you might be very excited (nothing is going to compare to the over reaction of the US press if they do end up married) but why are you predicting/hoping for an engagement ASAP? If you want them to actually succeed as a couple surely you should be hoping they both know what they are getting in to and have spend time *living on the same continent* for a while.
Harry might not agree with me and might press forwards and I'm not his mother/grandmother/sister/aunt etc but there's a reason why the Queen has had a guideline of waiting several years before marriage. The only one of her kids who hasn't been divorced waited 5-6 years (admittedly it might have been a bit sooner had tragic events not intervened). Probably if they stay together and want to get married it won't be 5 years but I do find it hard to imagine QE2 giving her permission so early, but who knows?
They aren't going to take my advice but I say use the break in Suits filming/airing to see if you can actually live together full time, get used to the full fury of the British Press and learn what will be expected of you, and lets not kid ourselves she won't be doing any acting as a Duchess so see if she wants that as well.
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12-11-2016, 10:20 AM
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Good Lord, people, They're. Just. Dating.
No wonder Harry wanted to keep this secret.
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12-11-2016, 10:30 AM
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I agree. But I added that because she is American born, like British-Americans living in the US. Born and raised in Britain but later became American citizens. If she marries Harry, my understanding is that she'll remain a US citizen but also be given British citizenship?
That was my only thinking behind my post.
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it still applies. Prince Maximilian of Liechtenstein married American Angela Brown and so she's now Princess Angela of Liechtenstein. American (though born in Panama), but now a European Princess of Color, so to speak.
She is American, but if she marries Harry, she will be considered a European Princess (albeit she'll be a Duchess).
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12-11-2016, 10:32 AM
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The problem is that 5, 6 years for a 35 year old woman can be a lot, because surely they will want to have children and the biological clock is relentless
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This is exactly the pitfall in this relationship. I hope this couple won't rush into marriage because of her biological clock and his desire to start a family.
If her age is a mainspring for both of them to rush into things, I think he should look for a younger girl.
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Good Lord, people, They're. Just. Dating.
No wonder Harry wanted to keep this secret.
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Exactly, I agree!
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12-11-2016, 11:00 AM
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Good Lord, people, They're. Just. Dating.
No wonder Harry wanted to keep this secret.
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It's more than just dating. It's very serious! He is doing more for her than any other past girlfriends, the bodyguard, the statement from KP for example, the so called breaking of protocol and visiting her after this tour.
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12-11-2016, 11:31 AM
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Harry has indicated that this is a serious relationship. As was mentioned he has never gone to such great lengths in his previous relationships.
Also keep in mind the couple's ages. They're not young kids in their early 20s. They're mature adults in their 30s.
Yes they're dating, but by all indications they are seriously dating and their relationship could very well lead to marriage. 💍👑
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12-11-2016, 11:41 AM
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Harry has indicated that this is a serious relationship. As was mentioned he has never gone to such great lengths in his previous relationships.
Also keep in mind the couple's ages. They're not young kids in their early 20s. They're mature adults in their 30s.
Yes they're dating, but by all indications they are seriously dating and their relationship could very well lead to marriage. 💍👑
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My point exactly. Thank you so much!
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12-11-2016, 12:05 PM
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We know they are just dating but Meghan is a special case apparently...They have very similar interests and he has shown it's as serious as it can be...It's an actual adult relationship for him...So they started dating when she was 34 and I don't see why they won't be married by 36 if they decide to marry...She Recently turned 35,its not like she is going on 36 tomorrow...They can date and have an engagement within 2 years... Engagement after 7 months is too soon but I'm sure he won't wait longer than 18 months.Usually I ignore his "flings" but this WILL NOT be one of them it's clear...So I wish the best for them and all this talk about a biological clock ticking is ridiculous...It's suggested 35 but it's not true...You can have children safely until 43 and even older (although I don't agree with older than 43)...Women were made to bear children until they can't anymore,35 is a myth.
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Please note that, as before, posts discussing the subject of pregnancy have been deleted. Let's get back on topic.
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12-11-2016, 02:22 PM
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Yes "They are just dating"
Everyone is "dating" until it becomes official, usually with the arrival of a ring, a home move or a third member!
Harry has had a few really seriously long term relationships, he doesn't need another to tell him when something is right! Nor do they need any of the above!
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12-11-2016, 02:54 PM
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The thing with Harry and Meghan's relationship is that its unique unto themselves just like every other couple's on the planet is. What we think and what we perceive to be right doesn't factor into it in any way. There are only two people that can make any decisions on how this relationship is going to, if they will marry or be significantly involved with each other for an extended time or if they are going to have children right away or adopt or just have a houseful of dogs.
We are the outsiders that can only offer opinions and express what seems to be to us. My crystal ball is in the shop so I'm just going to sit back, enjoy my tea and watch what develops.
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12-12-2016, 11:53 AM
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I don't honestly know if she is the package or the right one for him or not. I keep going back and forth.
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12-13-2016, 03:07 AM
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Please note that a number of posts have been deleted or edited for a being off-topic, speculative, empty and/or argumentative.
This thread is about Harry's relationship/s and not a debating ground about journalists, reporters or the media in general.
Further, this thread is not a platform for "my country is better than yours" type bickering. Members are asked to be respectful of one-anothers' opinions, irrespective of the country in which they live.
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12-13-2016, 08:56 AM
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Oh what fun time the holidays bring. Going out and getting the perfect tree and then decorating it at home is the stuff memories are made of.
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