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Old 12-07-2016, 12:57 PM
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I'd say he had the okay from KP for this trip, too.

I'm thinking they're way more serious than people think. Harry simply wouldn't have put out that statement unless he wasn't serious about Meghan. He's also quite open about seeing her, flying for a few days to meet her, and he's openly happy about it.
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Old 12-07-2016, 01:15 PM
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The people at KP work for him. They don't have a say in what he does to doesn't do. Maybe he asked his father or granny about it or maybe he didn't. Who knows? He has his own money so it's not like he had to borrow his daddy's credit card.
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Old 12-07-2016, 01:15 PM
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I think most everyone here agrees he's serious about it (and presumably she is also)....it's more of a matter getting to spend time together to learn about each other ..see how they handle various situations etc...and that is hard to do when you live so far apart.

It would help if the media would back off and just leave them alone. Poor guy isn't ever going to get married if they keep mucking it up.


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Old 12-07-2016, 01:25 PM
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I think most everyone here agrees he's serious about it (and presumably she is also)....it's more of a matter getting to spend time together to learn about each other ..see how they handle various situations etc...and that is hard to do when you live so far apart.

It would help if the media would back off and just leave them alone. Poor guy isn't ever going to get married if they keep mucking it up.


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I agree, everyone just need to back up off these people.
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Old 12-07-2016, 01:32 PM
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I'm wondering why DM don't have the money shot of PH coming out of a car, or anything.
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Old 12-07-2016, 01:42 PM
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I'm wondering why DM don't have the money shot of PH coming out of a car, or anything.
I said the same thing...if they saw him and were able to describe what he was wearing why no picture. Any other time they'd be putting up 5 frames taken a second apart.

Makes me wonder.


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Old 12-07-2016, 01:58 PM
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From what I read, he was in disguise when he left Meghan's apartment,This has an explanation, he knew there would be paparazzi there
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Old 12-07-2016, 02:21 PM
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I said the same thing...if they saw him and were able to describe what he was wearing why no picture. Any other time they'd be putting up 5 frames taken a second apart.

Makes me wonder.


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If they know what he was wearing, they could have pictured him. Will they publish is the question. I get the feeling some are holding back from publishing.
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Old 12-07-2016, 02:26 PM
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I've been reading a lot about Meghan, she seems like a lovely girl. She knows to cook, is friendly, communicative, fun, intelligent, to be on the lookout for any subject, it's not difficult to understand why Harry must be so involved.
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Old 12-07-2016, 02:27 PM
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Yeah I wonder what they are up to. They've not held back before publishing pics of Harry when he was dating. Maybe they aren't 100 percent sure it was Harry.


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Old 12-07-2016, 02:32 PM
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Yeah I wonder what they are up to. They've not held back before publishing pics of Harry when he was dating. Maybe they aren't 100 percent sure it was Harry.


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They know it's Harry. Perhaps the paps just don't want to publish or didn't have enough time to take pics.

Harry and Meghan are trying their best to lay low with all of this until they are ready to take it public. Harry has learned something from his previous relationships. Just as soon as they are pictured together for the first time, it will be bigger than the letter. They are trying to do this right.

I'm impressed by Harry's detour to see her though. Looked very refreshed today.
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Old 12-07-2016, 02:38 PM
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There is the Tiny inconvenience that Ms Markle is a divorced woman whose former husband is, I believe, still alive. I would think that the chances of the prince considering a more formal relationship with her are small, with a view to the Royal Family's history on such matters.


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I would have agreed with you before Charles Prince of Wales, the future King of England and Head of the Church was permitted to marry a divorcee.

As I've stated many times before, with the apotheosis of one Sofia Hellqvist as HRH Princess Sofia of Sweden and Mette Marit Hoiby as HRH and future queen of Norway the floodgates have been opened.

The idea that any woman(or man) for that matter can now be ruled "unsuitable" for any reason short of a criminal rap sheet is out the window.

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Old 12-07-2016, 02:46 PM
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There's no way the paparazzi weren't getting Harry in disguise. I think they're holding back, because there's a huge bidding war going on for these pics.
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Old 12-07-2016, 03:07 PM
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Prince Harry is so RIGHT ON!!

Why Prince Harry has every right to visit Meghan Markle – Royal Central

I like this portion of the article:


[I"]So this is going to be my first point, nowhere in that statement does it say it is forbidden, only “actively discouraged”. Prince Harry did pay for his own trip to go to Toronto so people can’t be angry with him for that, it has been argued that the taxpayers then had to pay for his police protection officer (PPO) to head to Toronto. Yet, had Prince Harry gone back to London and then Toronto, the taxpayers would still have to pay for that PPO and flights work out to almost exactly the same cost.

Costs aside, many of the media are upset that Kensington Palace told them that Prince Harry would be heading right back to London from Guyana. Did they have the right to know? The tour was now over and Prince Harry was off duty, he has explicitly said in the past that his private life was his and wants to enjoy his relationship with Miss Markle without the world judging his every move."[/I]


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Old 12-07-2016, 03:22 PM
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I would have agreed with you before Charles Prince of Wales, the future King of England and Head of the Church was permitted to marry a divorcee.

As I've stated many times before, with the apotheosis of one Sofia Hellqvist as HRH Princess Sofia of Sweden and Mette Marit Hoiby as HRH and future queen of Norway the floodgates have been opened.

The idea that any woman(or man) for that matter can now be ruled "unsuitable" for any reason short of a criminal rap sheet is out the window.

Spilled milk can't be put back into a bottle.
Different country different rules. As much as you make being a single mom only a step up from a criminal. Prince Louis had to give up his tight to succession to marry tessy, and her only sin was having a child out of wedlock. Unlike Mette, the father was Louis. Even their son in wedlock is not in line. They only have titles as grandpa Henri granted his grandsons and Tessy titles. In the Netherlands you have Mabel. Friday had to give up his place to marry her. His daughters are countesses and not in line because of it. Both Tessy and Mabel have proven to be extremely intelligent and charismatic contributions. So just because Norway allowed the horrifying thought single mom. And Sweden allowed a semi nude model, doesn't mean all countries would allow it.

But considering she has a mainstream acting career. A huge base in charity work. An education. And her only miss is a divorce which is clearly not an. Issue in the family any more, Megan really is not some embarrassment they will let slip through.
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Old 12-07-2016, 03:44 PM
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I am very interested to see how this relationship progresses and how Meghan handles her social media presence/website. I am assuming her blog brings in income so she can't just quit all online activity. A royal girlfriend with her own brand is uncharted territory for the BRF so I am curious to see how she reconciles the two roles.
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Old 12-07-2016, 04:14 PM
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He's [Harry] not a minor royal who gets pulled out couple times a year for an event. He's never going to be one...until maybe George becomes King. Even then as uncle to the King..no small thing.
Try telling that to Prince Andrew, in much the same position, who has been effectively sidelined...

Re Meghan, she looks like a lovely pleasant woman but I think the talk of marriage is premature; I hope she and Harry have time to 'court'.
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Old 12-07-2016, 05:15 PM
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I would have agreed with you before Charles Prince of Wales, the future King of England and Head of the Church was permitted to marry a divorcee.

As I've stated many times before, with the apotheosis of one Sofia Hellqvist as HRH Princess Sofia of Sweden and Mette Marit Hoiby as HRH and future queen of Norway the floodgates have been opened.

The idea that any woman(or man) for that matter can now be ruled "unsuitable" for any reason short of a criminal rap sheet is out the window.

Spilled milk can't be put back into a bottle.

Charles didn't get married in a church


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Old 12-07-2016, 05:17 PM
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Different country different rules. As much as you make being a single mom only a step up from a criminal. Prince Louis had to give up his tight to succession to marry tessy, and her only sin was having a child out of wedlock. Unlike Mette, the father was Louis. Even their son in wedlock is not in line. They only have titles as grandpa Henri granted his grandsons and Tessy titles. In the Netherlands you have Mabel. Friday had to give up his place to marry her. His daughters are countesses and not in line because of it. Both Tessy and Mabel have proven to be extremely intelligent and charismatic contributions. So just because Norway allowed the horrifying thought single mom. And Sweden allowed a semi nude model, doesn't mean all countries would allow it.

But considering she has a mainstream acting career. A huge base in charity work. An education. And her only miss is a divorce which is clearly not an. Issue in the family any more, Megan really is not some embarrassment they will let slip through.
Being a single mom or a soft porn model is certainly not "one step up from being a criminal" for us plebes, but are you trying to tell me with a straight face that in Royal circles that this was all hunky dory, and that the sound of harps and the angelic choruses greeted Mette Marit, Sofia and Tessy instead of controversy that continues to this day in some quarters?

If women like this have always been considered acceptable in Royal circles, why was Koo Stark driven off in 1982? Wallis Simpson in the 1930's Isabel Sartorius of Spain in the 90's?

My point was only that these women(Sofia and MM especially) would not have gotten their respective feet in the door unless their respective families and monarchies relaxed their standards considerably,(even in ultra liberal Scandinavia) not what kind of additions/contributions to their families they are making today-which while we are being blunt-is a rather subjective opinion anyway.

And-standards having been considerably...relaxed...if you will all over Royal Europe, there is no point in believing that there should be any difficulty in accepting Meghan Markle, B-list starlet as HRH the Duchess of Sussex.

It's all so much hypocrisy at this point. My point remains that almost anyone is acceptable as a Royal bride or groom now.

As long as they are IN LOVE of course.

ETA: About Princess Mabel of the Netherlands, whom I admire a lot. She caused herself a tough time because she and the late Friso lied up front about her having been a drug dealer's squeeze. A lot of Dutch people had a problem with that and I kind of see their point.
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Try telling that to Prince Andrew, in much the same position, who has been effectively sidelined...
Andrew and Charles have a totally different relationship with each other than Harry and William do...and Harry appears to be much closer to G&C than Andrew has been to W&H.




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