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Old 11-09-2016, 04:52 PM
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This stupid Boy! Why can't he just marry a nice girl like Princess Theodora?
"Tell me what kind of Girl you date and I tell you what kind of guy you are....."
By nice girl you mean princess I assume. Yes I mean I understand why a socialite soap actress is so much nicer. I mean education, humanitarian work, business means little. Being a nice girl is defined by the blood I your veins.

What would it say about hi if he dated her only because she is a princess. Thankfully Harry doesn't seem as shallow as some
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Old 11-09-2016, 05:46 PM
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No, Harry isn't a shallow person. I have to confess though, that I now have mixed feelings about that statement.

I do think Harry was perfectly entitled to stick up for his girlfriend and her family, who were being harassed. The British tabloids always get up on their hind legs when put in the wrong. They play the "What us! We would never dream of doing anything like that", card and viciously bite back if they can. And of course, Meghan as an actress and blogger gives them the perfect opportunity.

So, PR wise a public written statement about press harassment might not have been the way to go. Perhaps a private phone call to editors by KP telling them that yes the romance was reasonably serious, but the Palace would very much appreciate it if they would cease the harassment, might have been a better route. Along with perhaps a promise of an interview later on in the year, or something.

This is not the best way to introduce a new girlfriend, and having the tabs in a tantrum with you and her isn't the greatest if anything serious develops later on, though I'm sure in the euphoria of an engagement this would be put on the back burner.

Harry was being chivalrous in his gesture and I'm sure was in distress. However, perhaps behaving impulsively in that way had consequences that weren't foreseen at the time.
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Old 11-09-2016, 05:56 PM
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I agree Curryong going in boots and all didn't leave the media a no fuss exit. Like you I think a third party talking to the media would have had a better outcome.
By a public dressing down of the press there will be a few that will just go harder


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Old 11-09-2016, 06:02 PM
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No, Harry isn't a shallow person. I have to confess though, that I now have mixed feelings about that statement.

I do think Harry was perfectly entitled to stick up for his girlfriend and her family, who were being harassed. The British tabloids always get up on their hind legs when put in the wrong. They play the "What us! We would never dream of doing anything like that", card and viciously bite back if they can. And of course, Meghan as an actress and blogger gives them the perfect opportunity.

So, PR wise a public written statement about press harassment might not have been the way to go. Perhaps a private phone call to editors by KP telling them that yes the romance was reasonably serious, but the Palace would very much appreciate it if they would cease the harassment, might have been a better route. Along with perhaps a promise of an interview later on in the year, or something.

This is not the best way to introduce a new girlfriend, and having the tabs in a tantrum with you and her isn't the greatest if anything serious develops later on, though I'm sure in the euphoria of an engagement this would be put on the back burner.

Harry was being chivalrous in his gesture and I'm sure was in distress. However, perhaps behaving impulsively in that way had consequences that weren't foreseen at the time.
People will get over his letter, just a long ad they got the message of the importance of privacy for this young lady and stop the racial undertones in their articles.
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Old 11-09-2016, 06:14 PM
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I haven't read all the press about this so maybe I have missed things but I can't say I have seen any racist articles. Maybe in the comments which I never read but that's just the crazies


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Old 11-09-2016, 06:18 PM
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So, PR wise a public written statement about press harassment might not have been the way to go. Perhaps a private phone call to editors by KP telling them that yes the romance was reasonably serious, but the Palace would very much appreciate it if they would cease the harassment, might have been a better route. Along with perhaps a promise of an interview later on in the year, or something.
That's what the royal press offices have a history of doing with the British publications, and it works in large part because there's a long-standing relationship between the parties, but I can't see how that was an option in this instance. The issue this time isn't the British publications so much as the North American freelance paparazzi machine. They don't have any ability to call those dogs off quietly.

Another wrinkle that has to be considered: freelance paparazzi get paid substantially more than usual when they can offer proof of something really big that's previously been unconfirmed or denied. As long as we didn't know for sure if they were a couple, the money the photogs could have gotten for some kind of evidence would have been way beyond the usual paparazzi paycheck, and that potential payout was more than enough motivation for them to cross a lot of lines in hounding her and her family. Now that we all know that the relationship is real, what's potentially available to them is worth a smaller payout. There's less incentive to go beyond the usual following someone around to take pictures in public places, which is the level of attention royal girlfriends just have to either take in stride or opt for a breakup.

This is altogether a different equation than when Diana or Kate or Cressida or Chelsey were followed by the British press. It calls for a different approach from Kensington Palace. I'm not positive they've contained their problem, but I can't really see a better choice for them to have made than issuing that statement.
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Old 11-09-2016, 07:31 PM
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Action replay.

When Diana died, the immediate response of the UK public was to turn against the media. That tends to be forgotten.

In order to turn the tide, the UK press attacked the Queen - where
Are you, give us the boys, lower the flag...... and thats what is remembered. The people were conned.

We now have Harry defending his girlfriend and attacking media/paparazzi. He has been supported by the public. What happens? the press are attempting to turnthe tide - its Meghane and/or Harrys fault; its his Press people (who they dont like) and Charles who wasnt there to advise.

Give me strength. Its the media - mainly the press. Dont get conned again.
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Old 11-09-2016, 07:33 PM
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This stupid Boy! Why can't he just marry a nice girl like Princess Theodora?
"Tell me what kind of Girl you date and I tell you what kind of guy you are....."
And why does he have to marry a person he does not love, a marriage arranged with a noble and be unhappy? There are people who are still at the beginning of the last century.
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Old 11-09-2016, 07:41 PM
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I don't think Harry made a mistake in writing the letter. He must have been deeply outraged at his girlfriend's offenses. I was shocked by some comments. It's very difficult to read offensive comments to a person we like, he just wanted to protect her. And the press is cruel.
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Old 11-09-2016, 07:44 PM
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The only precedent I can remember for a letter such as Harry published is the one that Edward sent out when he was dating Sophie. That was an attempt to protect her and their growing relationship. Does anyone remember whether Edward received backlash for that?
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Old 11-09-2016, 07:47 PM
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^A huge difference is Sophie was a regular girl NOT a TV actress benefiting from the exposure.
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Old 11-09-2016, 07:57 PM
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To a degree, yes. However, Sophie's work did flourish after she was known to be dating Prince Edward. She started her own company, RJH, three years after their relationship began. I must admit, I'm somewhat uncomfortable with Prince Harry dating an actress. However, if they do form a strong relationship and genuinely love and care for each other, that's more important in the long run.
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Old 11-09-2016, 08:03 PM
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^A huge difference is Sophie was a regular girl NOT a TV actress benefiting from the exposure.
Miss Markle isn't benefiting from this exposure. I think it's going to be a mistake for people to come down on this young lady for already having a career and media profile before Harry. This young lady had delivered a speech before the UN for crying out loud. She's been on talk shows and already have some media interests.

It's easy for people to slip into the thought of a star using her royal connections to help her career. The girl is on a tv series. She's got her stuff together. She don't need Harry to raise her profile.
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Old 11-09-2016, 08:10 PM
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At this moment, how exactly has Meghan benefited from the exposure? I highly doubt her dating Harry will bring more viewers for Suits. Sure, her name is out there in the tabloid press, I'm just not sure it'll boast the sales of her clothing line. She won't get any new job offers because of her dating life. As far as I see, she's received harassment, people have tried to break into her home, her loved ones have been harassed by the press, and every person shes been in known contact has been offered money for a story. How is she benefiting from this exposure?
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Old 11-09-2016, 08:13 PM
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And why does he have to marry a person he does not love, a marriage arranged with a noble and be unhappy? There are people who are still at the beginning of the last century.

It's really has nothing to do with the time we live in as compared to 100 years ago etc. He's bound by the Traditions and rules of the BRF.

At any time he can step aside and give up his place in line for the throne (he's not going to inherit it anyway and not likely he wants it based on other things he's said in the past)...he's got plenty of money of his own from his mother and no way would his father or brother see him go without.

So as long as he remains in the 'firm' and plans to be a working member of it then he's gotta follow the rules. While it's not likely the Queen would deny him permission to marry someone...technically he still has to have permission to marry.


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Old 11-09-2016, 08:15 PM
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I'm going to disagree. She plays a supporting part on a cable tv show which is getting under 2 million viewers in a country of 330 million. Once the Harry news broke, she front page on website, newspapers, magazines. Most people here probably never heard of her before being linked to Harry. She has gotten tons of name recognition that she wouldn't have got without the Harry connection.

Suits isn't on right now it apparently comes back on in early 2017

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Old 11-09-2016, 08:16 PM
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Oh, yeah she does, no one knew who she was before this. She's promoting a clothing line. Has an open instagram with banana spooning (nice touch). I digress.

I don't care if she's delivering speeches for the pope, nowadays everyone is doing these self serving look at me doing charity, I'm not always impressed.
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Old 11-09-2016, 08:22 PM
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She certainly is not benefiting from exposure. What I saw was she being execrated in the social media. I read terrible comments in the Daily Mail: Harry will regret the day he has a black son. Black children in the palace? Could her mother work as a cleaner in the palace, a descendant of slaves with a prince? That was the least I read, not to mention the comments about her being divorced, as if it were the worst thing in the world
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Old 11-09-2016, 08:32 PM
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Folks, Meghan Markle is successful in her own right. Don't take that away from her. Yes, more people are finding out about who she is since the news broke of her relationship with Harry, but let's not make it seem like her career has been made by this.

Everybody used to go on and on about how it's good for a young lady to have a career and establish herself before marriage. Folks used to rip Catherine in half for not be out going enough and for not having a solid career while dating William. Now Harry is dating a career woman. You would think people would be satisfied. Being an actress is a good job too!
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Old 11-09-2016, 08:37 PM
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I still don't see how she's benefiting from this. Will people buy more stuff from her clothing line because she's dating Harry? Her IG pictures getting views won't benefit her. Neither does having her name splattered on tabloids. She's having to live through people trying to break into her home, worrying if someone will sell a tell all story about her, who she can trust in her life. Anyone thinking she's enjoying all that, I've got news for you.

Tbh, Harry is lucky if this relationship works out. Meghan is the one who'll have to uproot her life, and the benefits of life with a royal, in my mind, wouldn't be worth the negatives.
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