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Old 11-05-2016, 01:29 PM
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There have been several divorcees in the BRF, including Harry's father and his second wife. Three out of the Queen's four children have been divorced, in fact. So divorce certainly isn't a novelty!

Aside from the awful British tabloids there may well be enthusiasm for a beautiful and accomplished career woman who's worked darned hard since university and has charitable work for several years under her belt as well.
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Old 11-05-2016, 01:38 PM
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Viscountess Weymouth is a woman of colour and she has said she experienced a lot of snobbery and racism in the upper classes.

We'll see, maybe this is nothing more than a fling.
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Old 11-05-2016, 01:39 PM
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I fear you are 'wasting your breath' Duc_et_Pair, Americans [especially] will never understand what Europeans expect of their Monarchies...
Maybe its just me but when I think of a monarchy, I believe I'm looking at a system that the country has implemented as part of its governance. Either a constitutional monarchy or an absolute monarchy. It is the heartbeat of the nation that it serves and embodies its traditions and history.

However, it is my own personal opinion that the people within the monarchy are real, live, flesh and blood human beings rather than puppets on a string that should have parameters set on just who is and who is not "acceptable" to be a spouse or a life partner. Granted there are some absolutes that have been laid down such as to be a monarch, one must be a member of the Church of England and perhaps a few others that have escaped me for the moment but when it comes to a royal and their private lives and their choices of whom they choose to share their lives with, I do believe its a personal right to be able to freely choose who is best for them without having to check off prerequisites on a list of what is acceptable and what is not acceptable in a person.

As far as Kate having her own personal issues that mean something to her, we know she's been a supporter, along with her family, of the Starlight Children's Foundation (with the earliest mention that I could find being 2009) and is also very much involved with the issue of bullying as Kate's even said that she had been bullied.

As far as William, Kate and Harry all doing things for the same issues with perhaps different slants on them, I think the reason being for that happening is that a lot of the work these three do fall under the umbrella of The Royal Foundation of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and Prince Harry. These three do work well together as a team as well as working solo.
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Old 11-05-2016, 02:14 PM
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I don't understand what the problem with divorced parents, if
several members of the royal family are divorced, including the children of the queen.
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Old 11-05-2016, 02:45 PM
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It can't be used as a legitimate reason anymore...not when the next King is himself a divorced man married to a divorced woman. Once the BRF caved on the issue and their Church said it was okay, it can't be used to disqualify any royal from marrying a divorced person.


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Old 11-05-2016, 02:45 PM
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That is the problem in a nutshell. Lady Charlotte Wellesley, Hon. Alexandra Knatchbull, Tatiana Gallitzine and yes, Cressida Bonas, are more in the usual group of suspects. Not the partying and boozing lot Har, Eus and Bea frequent with.
Is Tatiana Galitzine *really* a part of the usual suspects, anymore?

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Old 11-05-2016, 02:55 PM
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Background and ancestry do play a part, especially with the yellow press. If Kate's mother's ancestors being coal miners was brought up you can be sure someone will have a field day over Megham's ancestors being slaves.
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Old 11-05-2016, 03:21 PM
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It's already been brought up. There was quite a long article in one of the tabs about her ancestry and background on Meghan's mother's side. They employed a genealogist to have a dig around.

Slavery anywhere was and is absolutely awful and reprehensible but I don't think apart from some films about the American Civil War, Lincoln etc that they might have seen, that the British public knows that much about it, unlike coal mining, which has been part of the Industrial landscape of parts of England and Wales for centuries. Therefore they might find her background interesting.
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Old 11-05-2016, 03:43 PM
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I read both her father and mother have filed for bankruptcy in the past.

Does anyone know if she has any siblings?
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Old 11-05-2016, 03:49 PM
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There is the half sister who was in the press and a half brother who also declared bankruptcy too.


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Old 11-05-2016, 03:49 PM
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Background and ancestry do play a part, especially with the yellow press. If Kate's mother's ancestors being coal miners was brought up you can be sure someone will have a field day over Megham's ancestors being slaves.
Sadly you are correct
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Old 11-05-2016, 04:08 PM
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One thing I think we can be absolutely sure of is that no matter who Harry is with or plans to marry or even winks at, there will be articles and "exclusives" that serve no other purpose than to find fault with something in relation to his choice. That is why it is called the "gutter" press.

Anything and everything is fair game for these publications as they feed on the general public's penchant for finding fault with a person, denigrating and demeaning some tidbit of information dug up and give their readers a venue to proclaim just how much "better" things could be and that they know exactly what that should be. Its called self aggrandizing and it results in a lot of green dollars in the publication's pockets.

I think we're in for a long ride of this kind of thing until Harry is safely married and has produced a few kids, supported his brother as King and finally has one foot in the grave.
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Old 11-05-2016, 05:19 PM
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Star on Sunday front page has 'Harry's girl sex pix shocker'

Let the games begin
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Old 11-05-2016, 05:28 PM
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Background and ancestry do play a part, especially with the yellow press. If Kate's mother's ancestors being coal miners was brought up you can be sure someone will have a field day over Megham's ancestors being slaves.
IN the Uk the working class improving their lot is fair game - we've all seen the articles. Tabloid attitude of 'know yr place'

However, there can be/will never be criticism of slave ancestry - not acceptable (quite rightly).

So they could criticise her for anything else (life style, family, clothes, etc etc) but not ethnicity or historic slave connection.
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Old 11-05-2016, 07:07 PM
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What a bunch of hooey....we haven't even confirmed Harry is dating anyone and they have him dating two women at the same time?


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Old 11-05-2016, 07:16 PM
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What a bunch of hooey....we haven't even confirmed Harry is dating anyone and they have him dating two women at the same time?


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It's all because the media is desperate for Harry to be in a relationship. He's been single too long for them.

If this relationship is true, everyone is now waiting for a picture.
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Old 11-05-2016, 08:30 PM
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I think they "played" the story of the English model, only to Harry confirm the dating Meghan... lol
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Old 11-05-2016, 08:55 PM
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It depends when Harry and Meghan began dating or being serious about each other, doesn't it? If they are, of course. If Harry and Meghan only met or became closer in July or August, a few dates with someone else in June is neither here nor there.

As for the black Marchioness, gentry types in the Shires being racist and snobby are not the Royal Family or those associated with them. Those people's attitude towards members of the Royal family (even new members) would be very different as well, IMHO. Also, Meghan already has contacts within Harry's circle of friends and they apparently like her..

I have no doubt that the Queen, Prince Charles, Camilla, William and Kate and everyone else will be anything more than nice and welcoming to Meghan if she is introduced into the family.

IF they marry (and it's certainly a big IF) and Meghan is then part of the BRF then the tone from the Press, including the tabloid press, will change.

That certainly doesn't mean there will be no critical articles, but I doubt very much that the British Press would continue to blatantly play the race-card every time an article on the Duchess of Sussex (or whatever title is given) appears and starts doing Royal engagements.

The British Press are always eager for stories, interviews, photo ops with members of the BRF. They wouldn't want that channel cut off by any sort of perceived bad behaviour, especially (and getting miles and miles ahead of myself here) after babies start appearing!
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Old 11-05-2016, 08:55 PM
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I want to date Harry someday Harry needs to date a blonde haired woman hehe
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