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Old 11-04-2016, 08:01 PM
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Prince Harry's new love interest slammed Donald Trump as 'misogynistic' during a TV interview and threatened to leave America if he becomes president.

Meghan Markle, 35, who stars in legal drama Suits, voiced her strong opposition to the Republican nominee while appearing on the Nightly Show with Larry Wilmore on May 4.

Protocol dictates that members of the British Royal family must remain politically impartial.

But the actress - who is not quite in the royal fold yet - tore into Trump, branding him a divisive misogynist
\read more: Harry's new girl's contempt for 'misogynist' Trump revealed as she says she backs Clinton for president and would quit the States for Canada if he wins | Daily Mail Online
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Old 11-04-2016, 08:13 PM
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Although I do find it silly that people can still be stuck in the medieval era mindset about who is appropriate or not depending on their bloodlines, their ethnicity, their education or their previous involvements in life, the more I think about it, the more I think Meghan just might be what the doctor ordered for the British monarchy.

Living in an instant global society, I would think that having a member of the royal family that has the background that Meghan has would be more of a positive aspect than a negative one. We're far beyond the times where anyone on this planet is actually "better" than someone else and with the BRF needing to seem relevant to today's world, a more diverse royal family would become more identifiable to the people.

This all actually would be just a perk. What is most important is how Harry and Meghan feel about each other, how they work together as a team and how strong they can be against no matter what life throws at them.

We'll just have to wait and see. They may only be enjoying each company for now and its nothing serious. I expect Harry to keep his private life as much under the radar as possible and that's the way it should be.
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Old 11-04-2016, 08:54 PM
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........People seem to be quite bothered about the fact that she's mixed race, but... REALLY. It's the 21st century! Aren't we past that by now?
No not any more than people are past the class system. There are people here who openly discriminate against 'commoners' that dare raise their eyes to a royal person.

Prejudice and discrimination comes in all types of forms. Ethnic, religious, social standing/class, etc etc.


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Old 11-04-2016, 09:29 PM
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The show on Comedy Central, which has since been cancelled, in which Meghan Markle expresses her political opinions, was filmed months ago when Bernie Sanders and Hillary were still fighting it out. Of course, if Meghan joined the royal family she would have to keep such opinions to herself. However, until then, (if it does,) then I like the fact that she has views and isn't afraid to express them coherently.
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Old 11-05-2016, 02:37 AM
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[...] her bloodlines (like the human race are a bunch of horses). [...]
But you are a regular visitor to a forum which is all about a system for centuries characterized by "bloodlines" anyway. In a vain attempt to "modernize", all requirements seems to have gone and it will only erode the core fundament of what royalty (or aristocracy) means. After all: if they want to "modernize" they should start to advocate a system in which free citizens have a free choice to elect their own democratic head of state.

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[...] There are people here who openly discriminate against 'commoners' that dare raise their eyes to a royal person. [...]
Why do you not make the conclusion that Europeans should bring their monarchies down? After all: aren't these monachies the ultimate discrimination against every "commoner" ?

I am also interested in how you see Queen Elizabeth, heavily bejewelled and in ermine robes, summoning the House of "Commons" (sic!) to hear her speaking in the House of Lords? And in that room, the Lords and Ladies are seated in their parliamentary robes, while the "Commons" stand humbly, in their sweaty wrinkly polyester suits, in the door opening...
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Old 11-05-2016, 05:43 AM
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If Meghan marries Harry , will she also threaten to quit the UK when a Tory government is elected ? Will she publicly support the Labour Party because it is better aligned to her activist agenda ? That is exactly the point I was making before about Meghan possiby having trouble adjusting to the imperative of political neutrality of the Crown (even if she's right about Trump....)
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Old 11-05-2016, 07:13 AM
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If Meghan marries Harry , will she also threaten to quit the UK when a Tory government is elected ? Will she publicly support the Labour Party because it is better aligned to her activist agenda ? That is exactly the point I was making before about Meghan possiby having trouble adjusting to the imperative of political neutrality of the Crown (even if she's right about Trump....)


Oh, people always say they'll leave the country if a certain candidate is elected!

It's just something they say, they never really do it.
(Honestly, I wish they would! But they won't. It's posturing).
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Old 11-05-2016, 08:40 AM
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That tv appearance was from early May 2016. She would have just met Harry if we go by the Toronto visit as the initial meeting theory. You can not hold her to the Royal rules immediately.


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Old 11-05-2016, 09:28 AM
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.....why do you not make the conclusion that Europeans should bring their monarchies down? After all: aren't these monachies the ultimate discrimination against every "commoner" ?

I am also interested in how you see Queen Elizabeth, heavily bejewelled and in ermine robes, summoning the House of "Commons" (sic!) to hear her speaking in the House of Lords? And in that room, the Lords and Ladies are seated in their parliamentary robes, while the "Commons" stand humbly, in their sweaty wrinkly polyester suits, in the door opening...

I'm not European or from a country that has royalty, so it's not my place to tell the people who live under monarchies or pseudo-monarchies they should get rid of their royals. That's their business.

My comment, you quoted, was referring to the posters here who have made comments about royals marrying 'down' or beneath them or 'not suitable'.. as if a person being born into a certain family made them somehow superior to anyone else.



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Old 11-05-2016, 09:37 AM
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I fear you are 'wasting your breath' Duc_et_Pair, Americans [especially] will never understand what Europeans expect of their Monarchies...
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Old 11-05-2016, 10:06 AM
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I have always found it a shame that Kate has yet to find something that really gets her and is something that she wants to fight for. Mental health is shared with her husband and brother-in-law, it's not something that is entirely her. Not in the way micro-financing is Māxima's, or education for girls is Mary's.
Neither woman started strong in their current fields, so to speak. They took their time. Kate seems to be doing the same with addiction as well as mental health as they go together. Just because William & Harry also are involved with mental health, should not negate Kate's focus. After all, it's only at a few things a year that we see the trio attend events together regarding mental health and those aren't the only times Kate is out there. She has done well on her own in her beginning and will continue to rise, we hope, as Mary & Maxima have done with their own passion projects.

As for Meghan, I don't want to comment until I at least see them together, otherwise it's wasted breath.
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Old 11-05-2016, 10:18 AM
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Neither woman started strong in their current fields, so to speak. They took their time. Kate seems to be doing the same with addiction as well as mental health as they go together. Just because William & Harry also are involved with mental health, should not negate Kate's focus. After all, it's only at a few things a year that we see the trio attend events together regarding mental health and those aren't the only times Kate is out there. She has done well on her own in her beginning and will continue to rise, we hope, as Mary & Maxima have done with their own passion projects.

As for Meghan, I don't want to comment until I at least see them together, otherwise it's wasted breath.
It would nice to see them pictured together, if this is all true. It would confirm that Harry is no longer single.
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Old 11-05-2016, 11:40 AM
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Old 11-05-2016, 12:17 PM
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Neither woman started strong in their current fields, so to speak. They took their time. Kate seems to be doing the same with addiction as well as mental health as they go together. Just because William & Harry also are involved with mental health, should not negate Kate's focus. After all, it's only at a few things a year that we see the trio attend events together regarding mental health and those aren't the only times Kate is out there. She has done well on her own in her beginning and will continue to rise, we hope, as Mary & Maxima have done with their own passion projects.

As for Meghan, I don't want to comment until I at least see them together, otherwise it's wasted breath.
I think the issue is there is no passion. There is nothing To show this is real personal passion of interest. For William and Harry we have been hold about the connection to the loss of Their mom and military work. Kate seems to be along for the ride. If there us a personal reason, then Kate needs to express it. This is something max and Mary have both done. Maybe she needs to stop focussing on some major cause and pick something she has a connection to. All royals have multiple patronages, but you see a real difference when it us something they are passionate about. For Camilla we we it with her literacy programs, and animal Shelters, she lights up with both. Sophie is involved with eye issues each season of her daughter. We are told Kate uis a photographer and she studied art, perhaps a focus in her own areas. Or in pregnancy issues like she is said to have suffered from.

Meghan like of hate her, she has a leg up. She not only has a career, but she has had a chance U.K. Establish interests outside a boyfriend. She is passionately involved with world vision and wlmens causes. If she were to marry him, these aren't patronages she picked up to fulfill her total obligations. Seems unfortunate Kate didn't. She had dated William for years, she had plenty of time to get involved and have some idea of her own causes when she wed. Volunteering us not simply a royal thing.
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Old 11-05-2016, 12:38 PM
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If there us a personal reason, then Kate needs to express it
Why on Earth should she bare her soul for the edification of total strangers ? She is an Englishwoman and is unlikely to 'emote', as North American types feel they MUST !
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Old 11-05-2016, 12:38 PM
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I think the issue is there is no passion. There is nothing To show this is real personal passion of interest. For William and Harry we have been hold about the connection to the loss of Their mom and military work. Kate seems to be along for the ride. If there us a personal reason, then Kate needs to express it. This is something max and Mary have both done. Maybe she needs to stop focussing on some major cause and pick something she has a connection to. All royals have multiple patronages, but you see a real difference when it us something they are passionate about. For Camilla we we it with her literacy programs, and animal Shelters, she lights up with both. Sophie is involved with eye issues each season of her daughter. We are told Kate uis a photographer and she studied art, perhaps a focus in her own areas. Or in pregnancy issues like she is said to have suffered from.

Meghan like of hate her, she has a leg up. She not only has a career, but she has had a chance U.K. Establish interests outside a boyfriend. She is passionately involved with world vision and wlmens causes. If she were to marry him, these aren't patronages she picked up to fulfill her total obligations. Seems unfortunate Kate didn't. She had dated William for years, she had plenty of time to get involved and have some idea of her own causes when she wed. Volunteering us not simply a royal thing.
I think it's wise to leave the Duchess of Cambridge out of the conversation. It'll cause the page to be shut down for a cleaning.
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Old 11-05-2016, 12:44 PM
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Childhood mental health and addiction are just two of Kate's many passions But turn a Harry relationship thread into about Kate and it will be closed. surely not every thread meeds to be about Kate
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Old 11-05-2016, 01:10 PM
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I didn't know it was. Kate has only been mentioned in passing in the last few posts. The rest of the posts have been concentrating on Meghan Markle and Harry and the many articles that have come out about them in the last week.
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Old 11-05-2016, 01:12 PM
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Regarding I say that Kate is plebeian, I think there was a misunderstanding.For me it doesn't matter if the person has blue blood. Color, race, financial position .... for me isn't important. I just said that the fact that Kate did not have royal blood, could also be a problem for anyone who cares about this.
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Old 11-05-2016, 01:22 PM
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A lot of people like to talk about class here at TRF. It will be interesting to see where a bi-racial American from divorced parents fits into the great British class system.

If certain people look down on a privately educated girl from the Home counties, our dear Meghan will have an awful time of it.
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