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Old 11-04-2016, 02:31 PM
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The more children William has the further from the throne Harry becomes..

There were quite a few people in Britain and elsewhere who did not believe that Catherine Middleton, daughter of airline personnel turned party planners and descendant of coal miners, was the best possible candidate for Prince William of Wales and that by finally deciding to wed her after 5+ years of living together he was in fact NOT setting the standards for the House of Windsor higher at all.

But for better or for worse he ignored the critics and chose the wife he wanted.

I think Harry should do the same. His wife will not be queen, after all.
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Old 11-04-2016, 02:47 PM
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I don't see what's the problem with Meghan having strong opinions and beliefs. Personally, I think it's extremely important that someone has them because why else bother? The days where women were supposed to be obedient and soft are gone and thankfully they are.

I have always found it a shame that Kate has yet to find something that really gets her and is something that she wants to fight for. Mental health is shared with her husband and brother-in-law, it's not something that is entirely her. Not in the way micro-financing is Màxima's, or education for girls is Mary's.

Her work for the UN and charities speak for themselves. She has worked for her own money for years and is more than capable of supporting herself. She has passions and opinions and is a very good looking woman. Harry is doing well for himself here.



A lot of objections to her seem racially rooted, which is worrying. Besides the fact that she's going to receive a lot of hate for being bi-racial, she'd have to give up her career. Don't think many women should envy her for that position.


I totally agree. I think there is a race prejudice, especially by the english people,that is why I'm rooting for them to be together, I think it would be a breakthrough, a english prince with a mixed race girl. And I don't see a problem with her age. She's only 35, most women nowadays marry at this age and have children.
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Old 11-04-2016, 02:57 PM
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Judging someone because of how much melatonin their skin does or doesn't contains is so....18th century...that I have to remind myself that it's still an enormous problem in our world and that humans will probably never evolve beyond that type of idiocy.

I don't know what she's like as a person inside, but on the outside she's beautiful and smart and focused. Harry should consider himself lucky that she gives him time.

Most men would.

And for now...they are simply in a relationship that may or may not last. Why not let them enjoy it?
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Old 11-04-2016, 02:58 PM
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I think many more British will have an issue with her being American than her skin color TBH. I think most British are past the race thing (there will always be some who aren't and will be quite vocal about it).

I've been reading through who knows how many pages on her age, her marital status, her nationality, her discretion or lack thereof , her bloodlines (like the human race are a bunch of horses). All that matters is whether or not she is a force for good and a good life partner for Harry. That's it.

And for the love of God, people, so far it's only rumor and innuendo. Imagine when something's confirmed.
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Old 11-04-2016, 03:02 PM
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Yes, and that is precisely why I think prince Harry should set his standards higher. Just like his brother did.

sorry, but I don't think Kate has higher standards. She was plebeian, had no defined profession and childhood was middle class
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sorry, but I don't think Kate has higher standards. She was plebeian, had no defined profession and childhood was middle class
Is it plebeian to come from a family where the parents have been happily married for decades, didn't cheat on their spouses, worked hard to build a good business, provided comfortable lifestyles and good educations for their children, and managed to raise dignified and impeccably-mannered adults?

The Middletons may be commoners (plebeian), but they certainly aren't common.
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Old 11-04-2016, 03:23 PM
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I would think, if none of this was true, the palace would say something to help prevent her from being harassed.

I think the media and those online need to back up off this young lady.
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Old 11-04-2016, 03:42 PM
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Is it plebeian to come from a family where the parents have been happily married for decades, didn't cheat on their spouses, worked hard to build a good business, provided comfortable lifestyles and good educations for their children, and managed to raise dignified and impeccably-mannered adults?

The Middletons may be commoners (plebeian), but they certainly aren't common.
I said plebeian, because what I know, she has no royal blood and for many people, this can be important. And having married parents for decades, does not define the character of anyone
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Old 11-04-2016, 03:43 PM
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She's an actress, she lives for this.
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Old 11-04-2016, 03:50 PM
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that says it all, doesn't it. I'm sure she is a clever girl.
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Old 11-04-2016, 03:52 PM
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You could be right. But I have to believe Harry is not a complete idiot and will eventually see through her if she is enjoying her place in the spotlight a little too much.
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... Lady Melissa Percy, the daughter of the Duke of Northumberland.
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As I recall, Missy and other aristocratic friends also regularly visited clubs until her marriage. She was and presumably still is, also a friend of Harry's. George, her brother, was a friend of Pippa Middleton.
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Actually I half expected to hear that Harry had hooked up with wild child Missy after her divorce.
Lady Melissa Percy frolicks with Otis Ferry on quad bikes in Northumberland | Daily Mail Online
But perhaps the Wales/Cambridge close friendship w/ her ex, Tom Straubenzee, precluded that happening.
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Old 11-04-2016, 03:55 PM
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What..the Northumberland girl is divorced already??

I thought she just got married???

After reading the article about the "noble" Percy ladies...no thanks. Harry can do much better.
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Old 11-04-2016, 04:04 PM
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What..the Northumberland girl is divorced already??

I thought she just got married???

No thanks. Harry can do much better.

Yes, both she and her sister had very brief marriages! Yet the Percys have the bluest of blue blood... So much for Harry marrying an aristocrat, like that is some guarantee.

(At least if the current crop of royal marriages don't work out, they have only themselves to blame, they can't say they were forced into it).
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Old 11-04-2016, 04:10 PM
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Other than outing herself to the press on her alleged relationship with Harry, can someone please provide me with evidence that Meghan is seeking press attention, other than the instagram shot about the bananas.

Unless I am mistaken, when a series and/or television premieres most actors have more media scheduled appearance to promote their most recent show/film.

Also, I am not in the fashion industry but how far in advance does it take for a fashion line to be in the works? I assume its at least six months in advance right? And you usually take pics of said line to be published before its released? So she didn't just take this pictures last week?

I don't Meghan personally and maybe she is not a nice person, I am just weary of her being bashed for doing her job.
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Old 11-04-2016, 05:21 PM
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Also, I am not in the fashion industry but how far in advance does it take for a fashion line to be in the works? I assume its at least six months in advance right? And you usually take pics of said line to be published before its released? So she didn't just take this pictures last week?

There was an interview with Meghan in the Globe and Mail published in a April that discussed the line which was then in development (it's just being released this week).

She's been an ambassador for Reitmans (which is a large brand/chain in Canada) for about a year now - I think the first commercial for them was released September 2015.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/...ticle29695988/
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Old 11-04-2016, 07:34 PM
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They have been said to have found much in common in their nascent romance, from doing yoga together to partying at an exclusive private members' club.

But the contrasts in Prince Harry and his rumored new girlfriend Meghan Markle's family backgrounds could hardly be starker.

On the one hand are ancestors whose empire stretched across vast portions of the globe, lived glamorous lives in palaces and were instantly recognizable to billions.

On the other is a family whose roots in the American South tell much of the struggle of the United States to come to terms with the legacy of slavery, and the divided society which grew up in its aftermath.

Markle, the 35-year-old Suits actress, has spoken of her pride in her mixed-race heritage and that her ancestors include slaves.
Meet the family, Harry! How new girl's ancestors were working hard in racially-fractured Jim Crow South when his were ruling the British Empire | Daily Mail Online
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Old 11-04-2016, 07:36 PM
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I honestly don't see what all the backlash is about- I'm assuming it's mostly to do with her race, but also possibly the fact that she's American, that she's divorced, that she's an actress, etc.

I hadn't ever heard of her, so I wouldn't say that she's an A-Lister by any means here in the US. However, just reading her biography gave me a pretty positive opinion: she's well-educated, and seems hard-working and very passionate about social and political issues. If there in a relationship, it could just be another short-term to a couple of years relationship, or it could be something lasting. And what if it is? Being a royal would give her the opportunity to pursue those social passions on a greater scale, and continue doing good in the world.

People seem to be quite bothered about the fact that she's mixed race, but... REALLY. It's the 21st century! Aren't we past that by now?
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Old 11-04-2016, 07:41 PM
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That's not really different from Carole's coal mining roots stories we saw with W&K.


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I have always found it a shame that Kate has yet to find something that really gets her and is something that she wants to fight for. Mental health is shared with her husband and brother-in-law, it's not something that is entirely her. Not in the way micro-financing is Màxima's, or education for girls is Mary's.
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This is way OT, of course, but Maxima is the Queen, and Mary is married to the heir.
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