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Old 11-03-2016, 11:43 PM
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I've seen nothing confirming the media is right about this.


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Old 11-04-2016, 12:19 AM
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William hardly knew Madeleine, so I don't see how you can say she'd be the best choice.

Frankly, those dynastic marriages seldom seemed very happy. The couples often ended up living completely separate lives, married in name only. Why would anyone choose that? I'm sure both William and Madeleine were pleased to be able to make their own choices, and I don't see anything so unsuitable about either of them.
They are both royals. And both close in age. For a few posters that is all that matters. They could meet on the wedding day and it would be ideal. Of course the princesses of former monarchies are a step below. Now I bet An actress would be less trashy in a bride if we were talking Theodora. I mean she is On a trashy soap opera, and has no education or humanitarian experience, but she is a royal so that is all that matters

Ranks Of suitable brides

Princess of a reigning monarchy
Princess of a former
Aristocrat with a pedigree as close to royal as possible
Blue blooded virgin of the highest social class with pristine background
Last resort anyone who isn't divorced, has a kid, of worked a blue collar job

Education, knowing each other, things in common.....matter little to blood
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Old 11-04-2016, 02:02 AM
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Ranks Of suitable brides

Princess of a reigning monarchy
Princess of a former
Aristocrat with a pedigree as close to royal as possible
Blue blooded virgin of the highest social class with pristine background
Last resort anyone who isn't divorced, has a kid, of worked a blue collar job

Education, knowing each other, things in common.....matter little to blood
I love your summary!
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Old 11-04-2016, 02:46 AM
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Posters looking with dédain to fellow posters which hold some expectations on a certain standard, class, background or prestige for royal partners forget that they are looking and contributing to the Royal Forums and it is exactly that certain standard, class, background or prestige which makes royalty and nobility what it is.

Last week an Italian nobleman died tragically in a bicycle accident in London. These accidents happen every day, in every country. But here it was a scion of a centuries old Florentine family which delivered princes, cardinals and popes. That spoke to the imagination and that was why in all media, from the Daily Mail to the Guardian, this accident was mentioned.

When Pierre Casiraghi married Donna Beatrice Borromeo, here on the forum and in general media people were fascinated by the bride with two aristiocratic parents, marrying on one of the Borromean (!) Isles where they own a fabulous castle. That spoke to the imagination indeed. The Daily Mail had the headline: "Your castle, or mine?"

So when a Prince of the blood royal comes home with a Meghan Markle, hmmm, yes... celebbie loving Daily Mail will splash it all out but is it good for the monarchy as an institute? I dare to doubt it. It needs some decorum, distance and yes, may I use the word: some mystique.
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Old 11-04-2016, 03:13 AM
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Prince Harry: Relationship Suggestions and Musings 2016

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Posters looking with dédain to fellow posters which hold some expectations on a certain standard, class, background or prestige for royal partners forget that they are looking and contributing to the Royal Forums and it is exactly that certain standard, class, background or prestige which makes royalty and nobility what it is.

Last week an Italian nobleman died tragically in a bicycle accident in London. These accidents happen every day, in every country. But here it was a scion of a centuries old Florentine family which delivered princes, cardinals and popes. That spoke to the imagination and that was why in all media, from the Daily Mail to the Guardian, this accident was mentioned.

When Pierre Casiraghi married Donna Beatrice Borromeo, here on the forum and in general media people were fascinated by the bride with two aristiocratic parents, marrying on one the Borromean (!) Isles where they own a fabulous castle. That spoke to the imagination indeed. The Daily Mail had the headline: "Your castle, or mine?"

So when a Prince of the blood royal comes home with a Meghan Markle, hmmm, yes... celebbie loving Daily Mail will splash it all out but is it good for the monarchy as an institute? I dare to doubt it. It needs some decorum, distance and yes, may I use the word: some mystique.

I agree totally! There is no mystique about this girl. An American divorcee who is three years older than Harry, who works as an actress and who seems to just love attention and who seems to be little discrete, is not my idea of a Princess in waiting.
I did not 'know' her untill Sunday but in just a few days I have seen so many pictures of her and know so many things about her and her opinions, just from her own mouth through interviews an her Twitter account. There is no mystique here for me. What I love about Catherine is that we actually don't know much about her and her beliefs and opinions. I also liked that about Cressida. I also think Meaghan wil totally upstage Catherine IF she becomes a Duchess.
IF this proves to be the real deal for Harry, I wish him luck but I for one will lose interest in the couple. I think he should have set his standards a way bit higher. But that is my personal opinion.
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Old 11-04-2016, 05:51 AM
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I don't see what's the problem with Meghan having strong opinions and beliefs. Personally, I think it's extremely important that someone has them because why else bother? The days where women were supposed to be obedient and soft are gone and thankfully they are.

I have always found it a shame that Kate has yet to find something that really gets her and is something that she wants to fight for. Mental health is shared with her husband and brother-in-law, it's not something that is entirely her. Not in the way micro-financing is Màxima's, or education for girls is Mary's.

Her work for the UN and charities speak for themselves. She has worked for her own money for years and is more than capable of supporting herself. She has passions and opinions and is a very good looking woman. Harry is doing well for himself here.

A lot of objections to her seem racially rooted, which is worrying. Besides the fact that she's going to receive a lot of hate for being bi-racial, she'd have to give up her career. Don't think many women should envy her for that position.
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I don't see what's the problem with Meghan having strong opinions and beliefs. Personally, I think it's extremely important that someone has them because why else bother? The days where women were supposed to be obedient and soft are gone and thankfully they are.

I have always found it a shame that Kate has yet to find something that really gets her and is something that she wants to fight for. Mental health is shared with her husband and brother-in-law, it's not something that is entirely her. Not in the way micro-financing is Màxima's, or education for girls is Mary's.

Her work for the UN and charities speak for themselves. She has worked for her own money for years and is more than capable of supporting herself. She has passions and opinions and is a very good looking woman. Harry is doing well for himself here.

A lot of objections to her seem racially rooted, which is worrying. Besides the fact that she's going to receive a lot of hate for being bi-racial, she'd have to give up her career. Don't think many women should envy her for that position.

I haven't heard anyone mention race we need to be careful to not make a problem that isn't there.
A royal has to toe the line and as wonderful it is that she has her charities they would have to be ticked off by the government.


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Old 11-04-2016, 07:03 AM
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A lot of objections to her seem racially rooted, which is worrying. Besides the fact that she's going to receive a lot of hate for being bi-racial, she'd have to give up her career. Don't think many women should envy her for that position.
I have absolutely no problem with her racial background. I do think she has other disadvantages like her age and divorce. That I don't find ideal.
But race is absolutely not important for me. I do think she is very pretty although I would rather see Harry with a blonde woman because I think that would be a nice contrast to Catherine. But that is my personal preference.
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Old 11-04-2016, 07:18 AM
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Her background has come up on various platforms. The (British) media has done a lot of coverage on her family background so far. Which is why Lainey has been saying that it seems like the US media gets ''inside'' details, which are positive, and the British media gets none as long as they cover her in a negative light.
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Old 11-04-2016, 08:54 AM
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Saying her divorce is a disadvantage, when the future King and Consort and 3/4 of HMs children are divorced, is ironic.
And where is the mystique about Prince Henry? We all know how his bottom looks like. I think if he doesn't bothers with being mystique, why should he look for Cinderella?
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Old 11-04-2016, 09:33 AM
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Trust me when I say, her being divorced means nothing. If this is all true, Harry and this young lady will be together with his family blessing.
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Old 11-04-2016, 10:08 AM
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Saying her divorce is a disadvantage, when the future King and Consort and 3/4 of HMs children are divorced, is ironic.
And where is the mystique about Prince Henry? We all know how his bottom looks like. I think if he doesn't bothers with being mystique, why should he look for Cinderella?
And the award goes to....Furstin Taxis!! We've not only seen Harry's bottom we've seen the naked bottoms(and sundry other parts) of most of the members of the upright House of Windsor. We've listened to his daddy rhapsodize about wanting to be inside his married lover's knickers forever. We've seen his uncle accused of being a paedophile.

We know that his sister-in-law favors a Brazilian wax because we've seen her ungracefully photographed in the backs of taxicabs during her marathon apprenticeship as his brother's live-in.

What the heck kind of "mystique" are these people fantasizing about??!

What I find hilarious and and hypocritical beyond belief is that some of the same posters who were gushing over the TRUE LOVE pairing of a prince of the blood and a reality TV starlet who did soft porn modeling and shacked up with a NYC sugar daddy for a period feel that all bets are off with Harry and Meghan.

For the record I see nothing wrong at all wrong with a Royal prince marrying an aristocratic virgin with a spotless background if he loves her and she makes a good representative for both the dynasty and his family. It's a throwback to an earlier time. But on the the rare occasions it happens now people whisper that "it must have been an arrangement!".(I am thinking of HGD Guillaume of Luxembourg and Countess Stephanie de Lannoy)

It's time to face facts. The days when Royals chose their partners carefully with their countries and their reputations in mind as well as their own desires are OVER for good. They are looking out for #1 just like the common folk and choosing partners that appeal mostly to their....well.

You know what I want to say.

What a topsy turvy world we are living in.
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Old 11-04-2016, 10:21 AM
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[...] But on the the rare occasions it happens now people say "it must have been an arrangement!".(I am thinking of HGD Guillaume of Luxembourg and Countess Stephanie de Lannoy)[...]
An arrangement is a too big word but it absolutely helps when people see each other because they mingle in the same circles, to begin with.
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Old 11-04-2016, 10:31 AM
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Guillaume's close friends and associates have always been mostly Catholic aristocrats and fellow Royals Duc. It was almost inevitable that he and the young Belgian countess would meet.

Harry has some aristo friends but he and his brother-Royal as they are-favor an entirely different type of crowd than their counterpart in Luxembourg.

And that's just the way it is.
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Old 11-04-2016, 10:32 AM
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But Meghan does mingle in the same circles as H. She and Harry have several mutual friends, both in London and in the US, one of whom reportedly introduced them. Eugenie is also a bridge between, as she too knows many in this circle.
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Old 11-04-2016, 10:38 AM
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Unless and until an announcement is made, a Z list American Actress is of ZERO interest to me...
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Old 11-04-2016, 10:54 AM
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Well, with all due respect, she seems to have been of interest, for and against, for other posters on this thread for several pages over the last six days. Not to mention on other forums!
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But Meghan does mingle in the same circles as H. She and Harry have several mutual friends, both in London and in the US, one of whom reportedly introduced them. Eugenie is also a bridge between, as she too knows many in this circle.
That is the problem in a nutshell. Lady Charlotte Wellesley, Hon. Alexandra Knatchbull, Tatiana Gallitzine and yes, Cressida Bonas, are more in the usual group of suspects. Not the partying and boozing lot Har, Eus and Bea frequent with.
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Old 11-04-2016, 11:13 AM
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Actually Cressida Bonas was and is a friend of Eugenie's, as is Chelsy Davy, another ex of Harry's, who is a great friend of Lady Melissa Percy, the daughter of the Duke of Northumberland. She was Missy's bridesmaid.

As I recall, Missy and other aristocratic friends also regularly visited clubs until her marriage. She was and presumably still is, also a friend of Harry's. George, her brother, was a friend of Pippa Middleton. Kate, William and Pippa have seen the inside of some London clubs in their time. It's all part of being young and single, though Harry too hasn't been seen in a club for some time now.

Actually Meghan and Harry are believed by some to have been introduced by their mutual friend Misha Nonoo, a designer and the separated wife of old Etonian Alexander Gilkes, who, with his brother Charlie, was at Eton with Harry and William. Misha's cousin is the Bahraini ambassador to the US.
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Saying her divorce is a disadvantage, when the future King and Consort and 3/4 of HMs children are divorced, is ironic.

Yes, and that is precisely why I think prince Harry should set his standards higher. Just like his brother did.
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