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Old 11-02-2016, 07:29 PM
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I think all that matters is Harry finally finding his true princess that he can be happy with forever and ever. Let it be with a divorced actress, a virgin baroness or a poster from here.
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Old 11-02-2016, 07:31 PM
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Her behavior...okay now I am confused.

Other than posting a picture of two bananas spooning, which could really mean anything....especially since we don't know what is going on. supposedly she had another boyfriend a couple of months ago....how is her behavior an indication that nothing is going on at all ...and how is she cashing in on anything.

The only thing she has going on now is the launch of her clothing line, which I imagine was already in the works before these rumours started.
The clothing line has not only been in the works for some time, it's actually her second capsule collection with Reitman's. The first was in the spring and consisted of four "go-to" dresses.

What that says to me is that she was successful enough with the first one that she doesn't need to sell the fall capsule collection by trading on a rumoured relationship with Harry.

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eta; and saying you are the luckiest girl in the world can really mean anything. If I was a young actress who is actually WORKING, traveling the world and helping out in causes that I care about at the same time I was launching a clothing line..I would say that I was the luckiest girl in the world too....It's about being grateful for the people and opportunities that you have in your life. Not everyone is blessed.


ITA. Reading some of her writing (leaving aside my irrational prejudice against anyone who uses "affects change" when they mean "effects change"), she really does seem genuinely grateful for the opportunities that have come her way. I'd say that, leaving Harry aside, she really is one of the luckiest girls in the world.
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Old 11-02-2016, 08:45 PM
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Lets face facts here folks. The reality of Harry marrying a Virgin bride went out the window the day Holly Branson got married.

If and, to me, its still very much a big if, Harry and Meghan have fallen in love and this couple decides that they want to spend the rest of their lives together, raise a family and have the proverbial happily ever after, isn't that really what we want for him? Haven't there been enough examples where a marriage to the "right" background and the "right" credentials and the "right" resumes have proven time and time again that they mean absolutely nothing when it comes to a healthy, happy marriage that lasts because they chose each other for the person they are rather than their past, their successes, their foibles and their bank accounts or their hair color.

I just really hope that Harry is strong enough and wise enough to listen to his heart and not only his head. Love and laughter and sharing life and having the feeling of being whole because you share your heart with someone that fits into it completely comes first and foremost before anything else. The job of being a member of the British Royal Family is something that will come with being married to Harry but then again, so will the opportunities for the both of them to express themselves as a team.

As far as Meghan being divorced, when we really think about it, if one looks at the time Harry has spent in serious relationships and Meghan's first marriage, the real only difference between them was the legality of the union with a marriage license.

If this is to be and its still a big, big if, I wish them all the best.
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Old 11-02-2016, 09:11 PM
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It is a big 'if' indeed, Osipi. However, the longer this furore continues and the longer Harry says nothing to anyone to shut it down, the greater the likelihood of a romance between Meghan and himself being true, I think. (Toronto residents near Meghan's home, have noted, according to the Sun newspaper, two blacked out SUV's near her apartment for days and a Canadian police car parked nearby.)

However, there's a lot of miles to go between romance and marriage. I hope they are happy together and had lots of fun on his visit. Harry's believed to have returned to England on Tuesday.

Meghan has two dogs, saved from the pound, that she adores. Perhaps Harry adopted one during his stay! He loves dogs too.
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Old 11-02-2016, 09:25 PM
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Now there we have it. a dog! How wonderful would that be.
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Old 11-02-2016, 09:56 PM
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If they married and had a family then break up what happens with the children? I know there are plenty of royal partners who have come from other countries but I don't know if with her acting etc she would be happy living in England and don't see royal children being raised in Canada or US. And yes I know I'm thinking too far ahead but these are the things you would have to sort out if you are to marry a prince
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Old 11-02-2016, 10:03 PM
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Its also said that love conquers all. To quote Shakespeare once again, "All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players; They have their exits and their entrances, And one man in his time plays many parts."

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Old 11-02-2016, 10:23 PM
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Its also said that love conquers all. To quote Shakespeare once again, "All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players; They have their exits and their entrances, And one man in his time plays many parts."



Life is change.

Well hate to burst your bubble but love doesn't conquer all in the real world only in fairytales with the handsome prince and his white horse.
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Old 11-02-2016, 10:44 PM
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I'm leaning towards it being true that Harry and Meghan are dating but I am not going to jump the gun regarding them getting married.

As far as her hinting, it looks like she's been posting social media messages for a while that imply she's in a relationship but she does not name the guy, if it was a turn off, then I think that Harry would have put the brakes on these kinds of social media messages a while back.
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Old 11-02-2016, 10:52 PM
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Well Zonk she must know by now that rumors about herself and a certain much sought after ginger prince have lit up the Internet and much of the press.

So why post a photo of two bananas in the position taken by lovers sleeping together, in addition to all the photos of Royal London(yes I've seen them!) unless she wants to send a not so secret message?

Sure I could be wrong, but I think she's walking dangerously close to indiscreet.

I can't believe I actually went and looked, but she's posted 4 pictures in the last 3 days on Instagram; one of her dogs, one of food, one of herself on Halloween, the bananas, and one of a cup of tea, teapot, and a puzzle. In the eight weeks since her trip to the UK (judging by her Instagram timeline) she's posted 1 picture of London as a "throwback" to her trip - which if you look, she's done with other not-in-London trips as well - in the same time span she also has "throwback" pictures of a trip to New York and a trip to Italy.

The thing I find most entertaining about this is that despite no statements from Harry, KP, or Meghan and no pictures of the two together people are determined that it's a real thing and not just a press rumour. Yet, when Harry and Cressida were photographed together fairly regularly, including those first snaps of them hugging on the ski slopes, people on these boards were determined that they weren't actually together.
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Old 11-02-2016, 11:09 PM
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Prince Harry 'has spent the last WEEK in Canada at Meghan Markle's house' | Daily Mail Online

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Old 11-03-2016, 12:21 AM
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I can't believe I actually went and looked, but she's posted 4 pictures in the last 3 days on Instagram; one of her dogs, one of food, one of herself on Halloween, the bananas, and one of a cup of tea, teapot, and a puzzle. In the eight weeks since her trip to the UK (judging by her Instagram timeline) she's posted 1 picture of London as a "throwback" to her trip - which if you look, she's done with other not-in-London trips as well - in the same time span she also has "throwback" pictures of a trip to New York and a trip to Italy.

The thing I find most entertaining about this is that despite no statements from Harry, KP, or Meghan and no pictures of the two together people are determined that it's a real thing and not just a press rumour. Yet, when Harry and Cressida were photographed together fairly regularly, including those first snaps of them hugging on the ski slopes, people on these boards were determined that they weren't actually together.
Well, I wasn't among those who thought the Cress/Harry relationship was a furphy (and there was great scepticism abroad among many in Twitterland and in Royal forums and Tumblrs). I follow him quite closely and there were rumours from long before any photos appeared that they had begun a romance.

I think this one is real as well, in spite of the absence of photos, but Harry is a man who tends to falls head over heels quickly and then cools down later, so I'm not booking a place outside BP for the appearance on the balcony any time soon! We've just got to wait and see what develops, I think.
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Old 11-03-2016, 03:15 AM
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If Harry thinks Meghan is suitable, then Meghan is suitable. His is the only opinion that should matter.
I beg to differ. I know that the monarchy is seen as Walt Disney, but in several countries it is a real system of state which delivers the head of state solely by birthright. The opinion of the private person Mr Harry Mounbatten-Windsor is nice. For the public person, which is His Royal Highness Prince Henry of Wales, there are other opinions in the game as well.
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Old 11-03-2016, 03:49 AM
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Anyone who wonders why William and Harry hate the press in the way that they do, aside form the fact it played a role in the death of their mother, need only look at the treatment of Meghan Markle on the DM website in the last few days. She has been slaughtered across numerous articles as they trawl through her work, her family, her childhood, her heritage etc. for anything that might be even mildly embarrassing or awkward.

I know they did (and continue to do) this with Kate but, they seemed to lay into her over a longer period so it wasn't quite so obvious and horrible.

It doesn't surprise me as it was really inevitable, but seeing it actually working in action in the space of some 4 days, makes it obvious why Harry's previous serious girlfriends have apparently said thanks but no thanks. Handsome, rich royal or not, I wouldn't touch this with a ten foot pole.
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Old 11-03-2016, 03:54 AM
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I beg to differ. I know that the monarchy is seen as Walt Disney, but in several countries it is a real system of state which delivers the head of state solely by birthright. The opinion of the private person Mr Harry Mounbatten-Windsor is nice. For the public person, which is His Royal Highness Prince Henry of Wales, there are other opinions in the game as well.
Actually, the only person's opinion outside of Harry and Meghan (or any woman that Harry would like to marry) that matters would be The Queen (or Charles if he is King at the time). I really do not see either of these people objecting to someone that Harry has chosen. The days are long gone when the monarchy and what is "suitable" for members of the royal family comes before personal choice and happiness.

For the life of me, I cannot think of one good reason why The Queen or Charles would veto a marriage to anyone of Harry's choosing.
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Old 11-03-2016, 07:01 AM
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Anyone who wonders why William and Harry hate the press in the way that they do, aside form the fact it played a role in the death of their mother, need only look at the treatment of Meghan Markle on the DM website in the last few days. She has been slaughtered across numerous articles as they trawl through her work, her family, her childhood, her heritage etc. for anything that might be even mildly embarrassing or awkward.

I know they did (and continue to do) this with Kate but, they seemed to lay into her over a longer period so it wasn't quite so obvious and horrible.

It doesn't surprise me as it was really inevitable, but seeing it actually working in action in the space of some 4 days, makes it obvious why Harry's previous serious girlfriends have apparently said thanks but no thanks. Handsome, rich royal or not, I wouldn't touch this with a ten foot pole.

The difference with Kate is the Meghan have an active social media presence and her lifestyle website. All this information is right there easy to get. Old photos with your parent- on Twitter for Throwback Thursday, posts about your self - on website, bananas spooning - Instagram.

Bankruptcy is a public record so that is easily search to find the bankruptcies of her parents and half brother. Half sister talked to the press and then denied it later.

We will probably see the ex husband talk or someone who used to work on Suits talk.

Kate was more of a blank slate with the Klosters pictures came out. She was still in college and didn't talk to the press until her engagement interview so we got photos and over time the press dug into the family background. The DM published stories about Pippa and James's financial deals. But when the WK story broke Pippa was in College and James was just starting college or finishing Marlborough. Don't forget about the James in Kate's dress pics we got relative early on.


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Old 11-03-2016, 07:35 AM
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Actually, the only person's opinion outside of Harry and Meghan (or any woman that Harry would like to marry) that matters would be The Queen (or Charles if he is King at the time). I really do not see either of these people objecting to someone that Harry has chosen. The days are long gone when the monarchy and what is "suitable" for members of the royal family comes before personal choice and happiness.

For the life of me, I cannot think of one good reason why The Queen or Charles would veto a marriage to anyone of Harry's choosing.
It is not just up to the Queen actually. Since Harry is fifth in line to the throne, his marriage has to be approved by the Queen in a meeting of the Privy Council, which means in practice that the government, as the advisory arm of the Privy Council, also has to consent to the union.
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Old 11-03-2016, 08:14 AM
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Opinion: Yes Prince Harry is dating, but is it really any of the media’s business? – Royal Central

An opinion piece regarding Harry, possible relationship and our basic human right to privacy.


Right....publishing an article about Harry critical of other published articles is the way to insure his privacy!

It is what it is, and Harry knows he won't ever have any privacy outside of palace walls.
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Old 11-03-2016, 09:32 AM
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I think we just have to give him and this young lady, or any young lady, the room and privacy to do what they have to get to their relationship to solid ground. No one should be staking out her home, harassing her family and invading her social media. This overwhelming attention could scare off his dates folks.
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Old 11-03-2016, 09:50 AM
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I agree that she has to know what is going on so it probably wasn't the best idea to post a picture of spooning bananas but she wouldn't be the first person to date a royal to speak to the press in the early stages of a relationship/friendship. I don't think that should automatically disqualify her nor send her to the Tower because of her 'behavior.'

In regards to pics of Royal London, well...that doesn't mean anything really. if you look at her instagram...she also has scenic/tourists pics of NYC, Ottawa, Spain and Italy.

Honestly, it's a wonder anyone would date Harry or anyone like him. I read that one of reasons that it didn't work with Cressida was the constant public criticisms of everything about her...her career, her parents, her clothes, etc.
Truer words have never been spoken. I don't envy any of the Royal spouses (or girlfriends)and I mean that from the bottom of my heart.

It was rough before social media but now it must be a complete nightmare!
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