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Old 07-01-2017, 10:26 PM
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The Fail and their type of genre certainly give an example of media of the lowest quality. They show no respect for people and yet complain about freedom of the press to write the trash they want. IMO, the Fail and their ilk should be excluded from reporting on certain events as they've shown that professionalism is not part of their publication.

I admire William, Kate and Harry for choosing what aspects of their relationships they want to share in public. They deserve and should have control of the information that they choose to disclose to the media about their relationships especially when certain media show absolutely no respect or decency.
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Old 07-01-2017, 10:45 PM
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Actually, if the Fail didn't excel at time with pictures of various events, I'd be campaigning to keep Fail and tabloid links off of these forums. But that's just my opinion. People are free to read the Fail, believe what they want and even comment and join the party in the comment section there. I don't have to. Once in a blue moon, something good does come out of a Fail article but its not the norm. Like programs on TV, the Fail should have a big banner that states "Reader Discretion Advised" on it.

I don't envy Harry and Meghan one bit with the gauntlet they'll have to run through if and when they do get engaged. How to have the wedding they want but not upset any apple carts? How to make it personal to them but yet knowing the public feels that in a way they "own" Harry? So many things to consider that I am willing to state that I think if and when they do get engaged, the wedding will be quite shortly afterwards. Get it over and done with and get on with their lives.

I would not want to be in their shoes planning a wedding for all the tea in the world and I love my teas.
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Old 07-01-2017, 11:06 PM
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I think we all find ourselves (very reluctantly) clicking on the Daily Mail headlines if for no other reason than their photographers are superb. And I don't believe that is accidental. They hire cheap hacks to write dross and ensure clicks with the fantastic photographs.

But, when Harry does get married, where he gets married will be a big consideration as will the media coverage. Gone are the days when royals can retreat behind their palace gates and ignore their subjects. Harry is at present, whinging interview notwithstanding, one of the most popular royals and the people have to be factored in.

It all comes down to that 65p, why pay for a monarchy when you never see any royals. Weddings and funerals are when the demands of the people are at their highest and some concessions have to be made and it does not matter one whit what the royal family and particularly Harry think of the media, they must pay their dues.
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Old 07-01-2017, 11:29 PM
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Eh, but whatever 'dues' you think the royals have to pay will be decided by them, especially when it comes to their personal relationships. Any decisions are fluid at the moment, IMO. I do feel that a Harry wedding will more than likely be televised, but it's very possible that it might not be, particularly if the media continue with their negative and intrusive bashing of his girlfriend. The media will need to start shaping up and toning down their OTT nonsense, or else.
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Old 07-01-2017, 11:50 PM
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Once a royal engagement is announced, the media is going to go into overdrive. Everything Harry and everything Meghan will dominate their pages and everyone will be wanting to get the "scoop" on the royal wedding from the date to the venue to the color of of socks Harry will choose to wear.

No one tops the royal family when it comes to putting on wedding. If Harry is nearing the point where he's considering popping that question, you can be there is already a flurry of activities going on behind the scenes getting all the royal wedding ducks in a row. Once announced, then its full steam ahead to the wedding day and fait accompli.

I'm glad all I have to do is polish up my Waterford crystal flute to make me a mimosa or two after a hot cup of English breakfast tea to wake up in the wee hours of the morning to watch the wedding if it is televised.
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Old 07-01-2017, 11:58 PM
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I think that degree of protocol is used for the Queen and Prince Philip and that's it. When Charles is King Camilla will be half a step behind him on state occasions. This is no different from the PM's wife at a state or formal occasion. Two Heads of State meet, shake hands and then introduce their spouses. It is courtesy not what century we are living in.

A perfect example of the expectations of the heir and spare is that of the Crown Prince of Denmark, Frederik and his brother Joachim. When arriving at formal occasions, first out of the car and onto the carpet is Marie followed by Joachim who gets out the other side and walks round to join her. Then comes Frederik who gets out to the car and steps onto the carpet followed by Mary who gets out of the car and walks around to join him. The comes the Queen and Consort and the same format is followed.

The spare is third in importance so he can decide who sits where in the car, etc. However, if he is carrying out a Royal Duty he'll still get out of the car second, but will greet the dignitary and introduce Marie which is, of course, only good manners.

Harry is fourth in importance and since State Dinners are not televised, who knows? Actually, that is a change they can make . . . televise the arrivals and parts of State Dinners or important occasions, then the UK will know what their annual 65p buys them.
Thank You Marg for taking the time to explain that to me. I was not sure who was suppose to be walking where, after all I am not familiar with the protocol of who walks behind or who walks in front of whom. IMO, I walk beside whomever and never behind, yet I would always treat others with respect.
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Old 07-02-2017, 12:18 AM
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As long as the trash media force themselves to stop with the negative non-stories, excited coverage of an engagement and a wedding is of course to be expected. But the Channel 4 nonsense is way out of line, as is the daily nothing made-up drivel from DF and other tabloids.

I hope a Harry/Meghan wedding will be televised, but I would certainly understand if it isn't, what with the crazy way their relationship is being covered non-stop in an irresponsible manner by many media outlets.
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Old 07-02-2017, 01:59 AM
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I have not really encountered any real garbage about Meghan except her "Diary" in the DF. However, YouTube has a plethora of royal clips and there are a few "authors" who are absolute whack-jobs. They talk of gin-swilling Camilla beating up Charles and trying to up the divorce payout. Oh yes, they are getting a divorce, actually, William and Catherine are too only if Camilla and Catherine can keep The Queen soused on Gin and Dubonnet they'll get more hundreds of millions of payouts!

You know, sometimes when I am bored I watch one find out the latest scandal. Honestly, it boggles the mind when you think they have to create these sleazy royal mini-soap operas. It gives the term "gutter press" a whole new meaning.
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Old 07-02-2017, 02:03 AM
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When I'm totally bored, I'd rather watch Loony Tunes cartoons. More entertaining than the Fail methinks.
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Old 07-02-2017, 03:54 AM
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I have not really encountered any real garbage about Meghan except her "Diary" in the DF. However, YouTube has a plethora of royal clips and there are a few "authors" who are absolute whack-jobs. They talk of gin-swilling Camilla beating up Charles and trying to up the divorce payout. Oh yes, they are getting a divorce, actually, William and Catherine are too only if Camilla and Catherine can keep The Queen soused on Gin and Dubonnet they'll get more hundreds of millions of payouts!

You know, sometimes when I am bored I watch one find out the latest scandal. Honestly, it boggles the mind when you think they have to create these sleazy royal mini-soap operas. It gives the term "gutter press" a whole new meaning.
You haven't? There have been plenty of irresponsible, sexual innuendo-laced stories and nonsensical made-up stories in the DF targeting Meghan. You must have missed them. Many of these non-stories you can tell just by reading the headlines without even clicking on the stories.

Of course Youtube has a lot of worthless hatched together robotic voice-over clips based on tabloid stories (many picked up from the DF). When I mention Youtube videos of Meghan, I am speaking of actual interviews and legitimate features (fashion spots, talk shows, Suits-related clips, etc) the majority of which were made prior to it becoming public that Meghan and Harry were dating.
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Old 07-02-2017, 04:39 AM
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If H&M do get engaged, I would like to see them get married shortly afterwards. Within a month if possible! If we think Pippa's wedding coverage was a media circus, the lead up to H&M's wedding will be ten times worse! The media will leave no stone unturned, make up all sorts of BS stories & get every nonentity giving interviews including Meghan’s estranged half relatives. If the couple leave less room between the engagement announcement & the actual wedding it gives the media less time to concoct stories & do a hatchet job.

After the statement Harry put out back in Nov, you would think the media would show more restraint in their report of Meghan. However as the months have gone by it shows the media have not learned their lesson including the social media trolls who are beyond disgusting. They continue to cross the line of decency. If H&M wanted to control the narrative & set the tone for their future married life, it wouldn't surprise me if they decided to have a private wedding & release some photos afterwards. Harry has shown he isn't afraid to go against tradition & speak up for himself especially when it comes to Meghan. This will also fall in line with his recent interview to be 'normal'. I'm sure he's also aching to teach the media a lesson & nothing will make them more mad than being excluded at his wedding!
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Old 07-02-2017, 05:23 AM
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I don't remember. Was Edward's & Sophie's wedding televised (but just a smaller affair)?

I agree that Harry & Meghan could decide to make theirs a more intimate private wedding that goes untelevised, especially with the way the media has been acting with such disgusting irresponsibility toward Meghan. The more the tabloids push, the more Harry & Meghan will keep their relationship low-profile and underwraps. If they cave to the desire of true well-wishers to see the wedding televised, then I'm thinking we will not see much of them after that except for public occasions. Much like William and Kate, their family life will be strictly off-limits. A line was unfortunately crossed by the media with Diana, which will not be repeated for W&H's wives, nor for their children and their family's privacy.

The DF is monstrously stupid and way out of line with their latest claptrap clickbait trash. It practically crosses a line with no disclaimer. It doesn't work as satire either because it's not the least bit funny (only to the crazy haters, some of whom don't have the sense to realise it's made-up nonsense). It would be good if the royals would sue on Meghan's behalf, but I don't know if it works that way. Somehow, DF need to get the shiv for this latest bit of mean stupidity though. And to top it off they publish it on Harry's mother's birthday!

The stuff about Meghan's former boyfriend is also prying non-news. Neither her former husband, nor her former chef boyfriend will ever have anything to say to the tabloids, just as none of her mother's side of the family who love her have had zip to say. I'd be surprised if Channel 4's trashy plans gain much traction.
Yes it was televised but it did not have the coverage like say W&K's or even Andrew and Fergie's. There's footage on Youtube.

You missed the one in the Fail where Meghan had done a photo shoot for a magazine in which she was posing bra less in summer attire. What the Fail neglected to mention was the fact that the shoot was done 3 years and not last week. It generated all the clicks and negativity as expected. Disgusting
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Old 07-02-2017, 06:48 AM
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I believe Harry made his position quite clear in his last (rather remarkable - no pun intended!) interview when he suggested no member of the RF were rushing forward to take over at the helm, but would do whatever was needed for the good of the country.

I don't think that was a throw away remark, but one very measured in advance of his and Meghan's future. Both are extremely committed to their charities, and that will be their way forward. Obviously, a level of duty on home ground, but that is William and Kate's turf to a certain extent. H&M will be very happy to bridge the UK and Intl. gap IMO.
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Old 07-02-2017, 01:24 PM
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Since Edward and Sophie's wedding was televised, then I do think that Harry's will be too. It would be strange if it wasn't considering that he is very popular, despite the fact that he is slightly lower in the line of succession now that William has had children.
I think there will be a lot of coverage of the wedding (but not to the same extent as William and Catherine's), simply because whenever Harry gets a new girlfriend, she is much talked about. I think that if Meghan were to marry Harry, their wedding would get a particular amount of coverage because I think a lot of people still think that she is an 'unlikely' choice for a girlfriend.
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Old 07-02-2017, 01:43 PM
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Agree!

I'm 99% sure that the potential wedding will be televised, and that had happened regardless of whether Harry was popular or not.
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Old 07-02-2017, 01:46 PM
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Once a royal engagement is announced, the media is going to go into overdrive. Everything Harry and everything Meghan will dominate their pages and everyone will be wanting to get the "scoop" on the royal wedding from the date to the venue to the color of of socks Harry will choose to wear.

No one tops the royal family when it comes to putting on wedding. If Harry is nearing the point where he's considering popping that question, you can be there is already a flurry of activities going on behind the scenes getting all the royal wedding ducks in a row. Once announced, then its full steam ahead to the wedding day and fait accompli.

I'm glad all I have to do is polish up my Waterford crystal flute to make me a mimosa or two after a hot cup of English breakfast tea to wake up in the wee hours of the morning to watch the wedding if it is televised.

I'll be drinking my Rington tea from the UK and break out the nice teacups!


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Old 07-02-2017, 01:52 PM
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That'll be fun; it'll be all over and frankly I don't think this idea of a downscale wedding is possible.
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Old 07-02-2017, 01:54 PM
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I think it possible it will be smaller than William's and not quite as formal.


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Old 07-02-2017, 02:10 PM
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If H&M do get engaged, I would like to see them get married shortly afterwards. Within a month if possible! If we think Pippa's wedding coverage was a media circus, the lead up to H&M's wedding will be ten times worse! The media will leave no stone unturned, make up all sorts of BS stories & get every nonentity giving interviews including Meghan’s estranged half relatives. If the couple leave less room between the engagement announcement & the actual wedding it gives the media less time to concoct stories & do a hatchet job.

If H&M wanted to control the narrative & set the tone for their future married life, it wouldn't surprise me if they decided to have a private wedding & release some photos afterwards. Harry has shown he isn't afraid to go against tradition & speak up for himself especially when it comes to Meghan. This will also fall in line with his recent interview to be 'normal'. I'm sure he's also aching to teach the media a lesson & nothing will make them more mad than being excluded at his wedding!

Press coverage for Harry's wedding will be twice as intrusive as it was for Pippa's. If he had his way, he'd probably opt for a private ceremony behind palace walls.

But he won't have his way, not in this.
It will be televised and fairly public (though he may be able to keep the reception private, as William did).
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Old 07-02-2017, 02:50 PM
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I've just thought about something. If Harry does opt out and choose St. George's Chapel in Windsor, that would deprive the waiting public of the famous kiss on the balcony of Buck House. Then again, maybe a blessing in disguise for this would be that the renovations at Buck House will start before the royal wedding and eliminate that problem.

No matter what Harry and his bride decides to do and which way to go with their wedding, there will be complaints. A lot of them. All over the place and specifically rampant in the Fail comment section.
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