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06-21-2017, 10:51 PM
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That is her choice. Speech always has a negative/positive reaction even for non-famous folks. Just go look at FB
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She could speak and ruin her relationship with PH also. It is her choice but in alot of ways social norms have hastened her silence.
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06-21-2017, 10:53 PM
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She could speak and ruin her relationship with PH also. It is her choice but in alot of ways social norms have hastened her silence.
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She's not put a foot wrong yet.....as far as social norms....she would willingly place herself in/under those if she decides to marry into the BRF.
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06-22-2017, 12:35 AM
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Whichever way you look at it, this last year Harry and Meghan have been "trying each other on for size". To those advocating they just live together for a while, it wouldn't hurt, William did for years. But it would prove absolutely nothing. You cannot practice being married. You either are or you are not. I attended three weddings one year, each couple had lived together for varying amounts of time, 18 months, 3 years and 7 years. None lasted more than two years from 'I Do' to 'Decree Absolute'. The reason the women all gave . . . it all changed after we got married.
Like it or not, I don't think they are going to move in together for any great length of time. As to fitting in, Meghan has attended many prominent events as a result of both her career and her activism, so I'm guessing she knows which fork to use. And at least she speaks the same language (idiosyncrasies notwithstanding), unlike many European royals whose engagements were delayed while the bride learnt a whole new language and culture.
While I wouldn't wish the to hasten for other people, I'd encourage them to make up their minds. They are in their thirties not their teens and old enough to step out in faith in themselves. Besides, Harry seems to have lost his sparkle, at Pippa's wedding he looked like someone pinched his dog and at the Trooping, he was majorly down in the dumps.
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06-22-2017, 11:56 AM
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Its been mentioned that Harry has been involved in two relationships prior to Meghan that have lasted 2 years or longer. There was a big difference though I think between both of those and his relationship with Meghan. With Chelsy, both of them were pretty young, enjoyed being with each other and doing what kids their age do. Not much work to keep a relationship there going and from what I've heard, they've had their ups and down throughout. With Chelsy, there wasn't much work to be done to maintain that relationship either. She pretty much floated with the same set that Harry did and they enjoyed being with each other and doing things they liked to do.
With Meghan its a world of difference. Meghan already had an established world around her when she met Harry. Harry was older and is establishing himself in his world too. They both have commitments that keep them quite a distance from each other. This relationship is work on both of their parts to make it work and its been a very private relationship where they're making the most out of the time they do have together rather than going out and having a grand old time partying.
When it comes to speaking, I think Meghan would most likely surpass Will, Kate and Harry at being an eloquent public speaker. I don't think it'd be a stretch for her either to find alternate ways to express her concerns and stay clear of anything political or controversial. There are many, many causes and patronages that are just screaming out for more backing. Like Camilla, she could take on sensitive issues that women and girls have had to face and propagate change without it being political.
I agree with Pranter when she says "She can speak...she CHOOSES to not speak." If she's wise enough and astute enough now to realize that what she feeds into the masses also reflects on the person that she's involved with, its not that much further of a step to adapt to the norm that whatever she'd say as Harry's wife would affect the BRF.
Recently Harry was quoted from a Newsweek article that had him stating that he and William and Kate are working to bring the monarchy into the 21st century. Britain of 2017 is a whole lot different than Britain of 1917. British aristocracy and British conventions that go along with it is actually, in my estimation, would reflect on a very small percentage of the UK's population today. The culture of the UK today is much more diverse than in days of yore and perhaps an American princess would be as acceptable as Sadiq Khan is as a Muslim Mayor of London to the people.
That's my take on it anyways.
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06-24-2017, 10:12 PM
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So, a new article come out today which built on the Newsweek article from last week.
I wanted out, confesses Harry the reluctant prince | Daily Mail Online
Meghan come up in the article a couple of times, but I found this part to be really interesting.
"Has his relationship with Meghan Markle helped him? It is a subject he does not wish to discuss, feeling she already has too much unfair scrutiny."
It seems that he knows how much people talk about her in a negative fashion, and I guess that's why he does not like to speak about her in interviews. He also dispelled the idea that Meghan advised him on mental health issues, which makes sense to me given that he has mentioned working on this before he met her. Overall, I think it's a good read that greatly expands on the last (not well received) article.
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06-24-2017, 11:12 PM
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I like what he had to say.
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06-24-2017, 11:49 PM
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Honestly the whole Meghan inspired him to get into mental health rhetoric never added up to me. People making more of the timing then there was.
Harry has been involved in mental health the longest. Well before this campaign. When he got involved with walking with the wounded and later in Invictus. Unlike the Cambridges who focus on bereavement, his focus has been on PTSD and other issues with military. He has said in plenty of Invictus interviews, that coming back from Afghanistan and seeing the soldiers and the state they were in inspired him. Both their physical and mental.
The one connection between Meghan and his work with the campaign seems to be how they met. So still a nice anecdote if true for eventual engagement video.
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06-25-2017, 05:58 PM
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Express really needs both new writers and new editors
Prince Harry having engagement ring cut from Diana's bracelet for Meghan Markle | Life | Life & Style | Express.co.uk
Though the title and article say the emerald is from a bracelet, the byline under the title says the ring is being made from his mothers engagement ring. Glad they cleared that up in the article. Was starting to think Harry stole the ring off Kate when she wasn't looking and dismantled it for gold
Or this lovely article. The queen may not attend her youngest grandsons wedding.
http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/...-wedding-queen
May be true enough. Considering her age and how young James is, it's highly unlikely she will be alive When her youngest grandson gets married.
As for Harry, if she didn't approve of Meghan they wouldn't get married. If her and Philip are not there it's because they can't be.
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06-25-2017, 06:27 PM
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1. What am I doing on this thread.
2. The Express and it's stupid articles - Its just crap that doesn't deserve to be read.
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06-25-2017, 07:49 PM
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Someone gets paid for that rubbish ?? Think I will give up reading anything about the BRF. Unless it's a video and I can see what's being said but then I suppose they could edit it to twist it etc
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06-25-2017, 08:14 PM
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The media is getting tired of not being able to report on this relationship at the moment. Couple is busy.
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06-25-2017, 08:18 PM
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Focus on the important stuff please - what emerald bracelet?
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06-25-2017, 08:54 PM
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Focus on the important stuff please - what emerald bracelet?
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Charles bought Diana a emerald bracelet. I think did so to go along with Queen Mary's emerald choker Diana loved wearing so much.
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06-25-2017, 10:17 PM
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Fluff and rubbish aside. I think a ruby and diamond ring would be most appropriate as red is in the flags of USA, Canada, and the UK. All 3 countries are significant and important to Meghan.😊
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06-25-2017, 10:40 PM
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I would be interested in what the queen would give as a wedding present, or if she will give one at all. The last time a married in bride for the House of Windsor received a gift from the queen was Sarah Ferguson in 1986. Since then, Sophie, Camilla and Kate were loaned tiara pieces when they got married. (Camilla's engagement ring once belong to the Queen Mother.)
As for the engagement ring, Harry may do something different and not use a ring from Diana's collection. (He may give Meghan a different type of jewelry that belonged to his mother as a wedding gift.) I would like to see an argyle pink diamond, see examples:
https://www.google.com/search?q=argy...#imgrc=ffsjhT5
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06-25-2017, 10:54 PM
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 I believe the Queen's gift to Harry's bride will be to give her husband a dukedom thus making her a duchess :)
Unless Meghan has a strong preference for a particular gem I predict any engagement ring will be a diamond, surely there's a spare somewhere in his Grandmother or father's possession that can be mounted w/out cutting up another piece. :)
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06-25-2017, 11:13 PM
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I think likely means this
Queen Mary's Art Deco Emerald & Diamond Choker – My Blog
At the bottom of the post there is a picture of her with an emerald bracelet that is said to have been a wedding gift from Charles. Can't find a good pic. It's Art Deco, meant to match the choker.
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06-25-2017, 11:23 PM
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Fluff and rubbish aside. I think a ruby and diamond ring would be most appropriate as red is in the flags of USA, Canada, and the UK. All 3 countries are significant and important to Meghan.😊
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Wonderful idea!!!
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06-26-2017, 12:58 AM
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Actauly I don't believe that Diana liked emeralds much. she preferred sapphires and pearls..
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