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Old 05-28-2017, 12:24 PM
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"Prince Harry’s Future Half African, Half Jewish American Wife, Who’s Also a Divorcée?"

The author lost me at the title! The article contains the usual dog whistles that I've read before. Also how can someone be half Jewish? That's like saying you're half christian & half muslim. You're either one or the other. It has never been proven what religion Meghan is, yet many people claim to know it as if it was fact.

So many things concerning this couple is pure hearsay & speculation. Last week's wedding should open our eyes that none of these journalists know as much as they claim & their sources are questionable to say the least. Meghan was a sure thing to attend the ceremony according to most of the journalists but in the end it turned out she was never going to attend.

I honestly believe that because the couple are very private many in the media have taken to simply making up stuff.
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Old 05-28-2017, 12:45 PM
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It's horrible that the press, in the absence of anything new & concrete to report, is resorting to re-hashing & speculation, and using dreadfully rude, provocative headlines and half-assed facts just for column inches and clicks. PH obviously wants to keep this relationship private, and his wishes should be respected.

And, yes, I realize I am giving the media too much credit.
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Old 05-28-2017, 02:01 PM
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For some reason (out of the blue) I am thinking that this will never be a go. Any break-up will be very hard on Harry (imo). I just don't think Meghan will sign on for the craziness. Not worth it. She's not British so Harry can't depend on her patriotism as much (as say William can with Kate, or Charles with Camilla). Meaning, Meghan is unlikely to put up with class nonsense and meaningless, out-of-date protocols. Harry will have to make a deal with her to entice her, maybe promise that most of the year will be spent elsewhere (US, Africa). Something like that.
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Old 05-28-2017, 02:07 PM
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Not worth it
If she thinks that then she shouldn't consent to be his wife...She would be marrying someone with [essentially] a 'vocation'.. if she can't 'hack it' she's not the right partner for him..
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Old 05-28-2017, 02:24 PM
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If she thinks that then she shouldn't consent to be his wife...She would be marrying someone with [essentially] a 'vocation'.. if she can't 'hack it' she's not the right partner for him..
Well, that was my point, wyevale. I don't think the hassle is worth it (my statement) so I don't think she'll marry him. I didn't say Meghan thinks that. I don't know what she thinks, but I do think she's canny and wise and insightful. She won't sign on for misery. Why would she?

Here's a thought: what if Meghan said: okay, m'love, I'll live with you, be your mistress across years, even lets have babies, but no marriage, no royal balcony scenes with me on your arm. Would that even be possible?
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Old 05-28-2017, 02:27 PM
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It's possible. The only 'downside' is Harry's children wouldn't be in the line of succession, but given that they will never be anywhere near the throne, it doesn't really matter.
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Old 05-28-2017, 02:34 PM
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Another downside is his father could disapprove of the situation and cut of his funding and kick him out of royal housing.
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Old 05-28-2017, 02:48 PM
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Would that even be possible?
Yes it's possible.. BUT Not only would there be disapproval from his father, but also [crucially] from HMQ and [very likely] from the Cambridges'. Anything remotely controversial, and this would be, is deeply unwelcome in 'the firm'.
Not just within the Royal Family, The public here is noted for its tendency to enjoy 'knocking people off the pedestals' on which they themselves have raised their idols, and Harry would face quite a backlash...And once the press got going on Meghan, who knows how vicious they might become if denied the 'fairytale' wedding they and their readership wants ?

"Mrs Simpson pinched our King", mark two....
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Old 05-28-2017, 03:16 PM
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For the most part, if and when Harry and Meghan marry, the times they would really come into contact with "disapproving" society and occasions where strict protocol is adhered to would be very few. They would have their own household, their own family, their own circle of friends, their charities and patronages and their official engagements that would keep them very busy. So really, I see no problem in that area.

To be honest, I think if Meghan and any qualms about Harry's way of life and what she'd be getting herself into, she would have walked away a long time ago and the romance wouldn't have progressed as far as it has.

Even if the scenario did play out that Meghan became more of just a significant other and they had children, for the most part it would probably be treated as if Harry was still a bachelor and single but "involved" with someone. Meghan and the children just would not have any place in the British Royal Family at all.
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Old 05-28-2017, 03:29 PM
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Frankly, I thought no American woman, regardless of background, would have a shot at marrying a British prince because of Wallis Simpson, but here we are.
I don't think being American was the major strike against Wallis. Two living ex-husbands (in 1937 when divorce was still very much a taboo) among other things (like her admiration for Hitler) were stronger. If she were an American ingenue heiress like Lady Churchill or Lady Fermoy I don't think it would have been as much of an issue,
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Old 05-28-2017, 03:36 PM
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Here's a thought: what if Meghan said: okay, m'love, I'll live with you, be your mistress across years, even lets have babies, but no marriage, no royal balcony scenes with me on your arm. Would that even be possible?
Yes it's possible, but not likely to happen.

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If she thinks that then she shouldn't consent to be his wife...She would be marrying someone with [essentially] a 'vocation'.. if she can't 'hack it' she's not the right partner for him..
Couldn't agree more!

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It's possible. The only 'downside' is Harry's children wouldn't be in the line of succession, but given that they will never be anywhere near the throne, it doesn't really matter.
Agrees!

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Another downside is his father could disapprove of the situation and cut of his funding and kick him out of royal housing.
Charles is no animal, so he would never do that.

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Yes it's possible.. BUT Not only would there be disapproval from his father, but also [crucially] from HMQ and [very likely] from the Cambridges'. Anything remotely controversial, and this would be, is deeply unwelcome in 'the firm'.
Not just within the Royal Family, The public here is noted for its tendency to enjoy 'knocking people off the pedestals' on which they themselves have raised their idols, and Harry would face quite a backlash...And once the press got going on Meghan, who knows how vicious they might become if denied the 'fairytale' wedding they and their readership wants ?

"Mrs Simpson pinched our King", mark two....
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Old 05-28-2017, 03:45 PM
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If she wasn't interested in marriage with Harry they would of already gone their separate ways.


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Old 05-28-2017, 04:16 PM
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If Meghan wasn't interested in marrying Harry, she would've walked away with the first wave of the media harassment. She's Imo very serious with him. Added, that I think the way Harry handled it (the media storm) and has been acting with meghan has been simply fantastic, he's shown her and the viewing audience, that hell go to great lengths for her, as she does for him. I'm still betting on the end of the year 2017 engagement, 2018 wedding.
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If Meghan wasn't interested in marrying Harry, she would've walked away with the first wave of the media harassment. She's Imo very serious with him. Added, that I think the way Harry handled it (the media storm) and has been acting with meghan has been simply fantastic, he's shown her and the viewing audience, that hell go to great lengths for her, as she does for him. I'm still betting on the end of the year 2017 engagement, 2018 wedding.
I agree with everything you've written.
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Old 05-28-2017, 04:31 PM
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Yep ditto to what Cocoasneeze said.



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Old 05-28-2017, 04:42 PM
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Of course it wouldn't be possible. And meghan may nto be brain of America, but I'm sure she's not so foolish as ot settle for being a mistress rather than a Princess. If she's ambitious, she'll want the whole bag..
Charles certainly would not allow such a situation.
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Old 05-28-2017, 04:59 PM
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Meghan would not settle for being a "sidepiece" or maitresse on titre (the official mistress). She'll take it slow with Harry but if too much time passes and Harry will not put a ring on it (sovereign consent or not) she'll leave.
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Old 05-28-2017, 05:15 PM
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Its just been suggested that they *could* go that route without marriage. There are many unconventional relationships these days. People do what they're comfortable with.

I really don't see a marriage though between Harry and Meghan for any other reason that they want to be partners in life and share each other's lives and have a family. The externals such as titles, money, fame, prestige and whatever else would only be secondary externals that comes from their union.

The fact that they love each other will be the *only* primary reason they'll walk down the aisle together.

At least that's what I think.
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Old 05-28-2017, 05:39 PM
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Here's a thought: what if Meghan said: okay, m'love, I'll live with you, be your mistress across years, even lets have babies, but no marriage, no royal balcony scenes with me on your arm. Would that even be possible?

I suppose anything is possible, but why settle for that?
It's not like the press will leave her alone if she's his mistress instead of his wife! They'll conclude the RF is ashamed of her and wants to keep her in the background, and who needs that?

If they decide they want to be together, I hope it's all or nothing!
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Old 05-28-2017, 06:04 PM
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Another downside is his father could disapprove of the situation and cut of his funding and kick him out of royal housing.
Housing maybe, but he would have the same funding he has now. His trust funds from mom and great grandma. If he isn't a working royal any more, he wouldn't need money from Charles or the queen for staff. Besides, right now it's granny in charge of housing and the rest. Until she dies, it's her good side he need stay on.

Honestly if grandma or Charles had issues, they wouldn't have allowed the relationship to go on so long. Either Harry knows he doesn't have their blessing and is already preparing for private life. Or he knows he will have it.
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