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Old 05-23-2017, 03:40 AM
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I think the Duke of Edinburgh sums up the media onslaught and stories the best. He said: "You have mosquitoes. We have the press.". We all know mosquitoes are pest and annoying but we really don't spend a lot of time thinking about them. What we can do though is ahead of time, if we're having an outdoor event, spray the area with Yard Guard to keep them at bay. It seems to me that Harry's PPO and the protection detail that the Middletons hired did earn their pay and do an excellent job.

Here it is a couple of days later and we still don't know for certain a lot of things surrounding the wedding. Did Meghan get invited to the church or not? We don't know. What was the evening party like? We don't know. There's a bazillion stories circulating on various aspects but not one that can say what's what. We saw the bride and the groom and the wedding party and family for a brief time during the wedding day and to be honest, that was all that was allowed the public to see.

As far as Harry and Meghan going out and about to clubs and nightspots and restaurants and among the people, one thing we do have to realize is that before any of that happens, Scotland Yard does what is called a recee where they scope the place out for trouble spots to guarantee security for Harry. It probably was far easier to schedule a visit to a museum after hours than to guarantee security for Harry and Meghan if they were there when it was open to the public. For the wedding alone, Scotland Yard provided four protection officers. One for the kids, one for Harry, one for Kate and one for William. On top of that, the Middletons had their own security detail surrounding the place. They were easily recognizable too during the live stream provided as guests walked the path to the church.

No matter where Harry goes for the rest of his life with or without Meghan, every move he makes and everywhere he goes will be monitored by security. That's life as a royal. So in reality, when Harry and Meghan step out, its not as a couple but as a threesome. Man, woman and PPO. These two marry and it becomes a foursome with two (count 'em) PPOs. That has to be daunting for a couple and would take more getting used to than public attention and tabloid fabrications.

If Meghan had been invited to the church with Harry, she could have easily been there without the crowds outside and the press being able to focus on her and Harry and "overshadow" Pippa and James. Didn't Harry and William sort of arrive themselves by the back way? That probably was due to security measures. Nothing was seen of the reception and the evening party. The security was that good. As it stands, there are "stories" circulating even to the point of being ridiculous. One states that Meghan created a big "faux pas" for wearing a black evening gown. Anything to fit click bait.

I seriously don't believe that anyone associated with these people that did or did not do something concerning the wedding gave a second thought to the people, press or tabloids. To them, they were mosquitoes. The mosquitoes weren't given the chance to bite those that attended the wedding though and that's a job well done in my book.
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Old 05-23-2017, 05:19 AM
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If the media hadn't acted so crazy when news of H&M relationship first broke, I believe we would be seeing more of the couple now. Then add to the mx the bitter & jealous rantings of a crazy half-sister whose rage flares up every time a full moon is out doesn't help either. The attacks on Meghan were unprecedented to the point that Harry had to release a statement & I think after that point the couple decided to retreat.

I'm sure H&M would love to be able to do all the things that normal couples do. But let's be real here, if the media got wind of them dining at a restaurant or going for a walk in the park it would cause a frenzy & ruin their moment. The hunger isn't going to die down once they are photographed more, it certainly never did with Diana. I believe this is about the couple setting boundaries & letting the world know that they are calling the shots.

We also don't know the status of their relationship. Most people have them married off already however H&M might not be at that stage yet. Every public outing they make turns into engagement fever so the decision to lie low might also be an attempt on their part to diffuse the engagement talks.

Sensationalist headlines are constantly being written about Meghan even from doing ordinary things like going to the gym. A recent trip to the gym in London had her bum plastered across several front pages. The media have shown time & time again that they have no respect so the couple are well within their rights not to play along. I honestly believe that until there is an engagement the public will only see the odd outings with these two.

As for the trolls let them eat cake! These nut jobs believe every photograph of the couple is fake, that H&M have a contract, that they have broken up since December, and MM is a prostitute. Their level of delusion/insanity/hatred is so strong that no amount of evidence staring them in the face will change that.
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Old 05-23-2017, 05:44 AM
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I don't think I'm a voyeur or gawker, really, just a longtime Royal watcher and Harry supporter. Of course the couple will do things their way. I wish them well, and just wish others did.

I'm just looking forward to the days of seeing them do what normal couple do, go to restaurants and nightspots together, entering and leaving and maybe holding hands! And I am, I confess, a bit disappointed that we have no photos of them together at the reception!
I really share your opinion....life is sometimes so sad.... it helps to get a little sunshine
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Old 05-23-2017, 10:24 AM
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Eugenie, can go out and do as she pleases and is not bothered by reporters. That is not the case for William and Harry. So that is not a fair comparison.

It's been a year now for Harry and Meghan so I don't think they will out in public much at all like now until they announce their engagement.
Eugenie is getting off topic but-- maybe the reporters (photographers) don't bother her like they do her cousins--but then why do we see so many photos of her leaving restaurants?
But mainly I was pointing out that generally royals dating do not do PDAs with their girlfriends/boyfriends.
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Old 05-23-2017, 10:37 AM
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ntering and leaving and maybe holding hands! And I am, I confess, a bit disappointed that we have no photos of them together at the reception!

So am I.

Even though I approve of Pippa and James turning down the deal with HELLO, in a way I wish they'd taken it.

I know...very contradictory...
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Old 05-23-2017, 11:16 AM
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I don't think there's one among us that wouldn't love to have the ability to metamorph into the proverbial fly on the wall at times. We can respect the privacy of others yet a certain part of us wants to really be that fly on the wall.

I think we all do want to see Harry and Meghan out and about, holding hands and smiling ear to ear but these are people that cannot just decide they're going to go mall walking and head out the front door and go do it. Everything and anything has to be cleared through security before Harry even puts his beanie on. Its security measures as much as a wish for privacy that dictates how little we actually see of them.

Security is going to be even tighter now, I imagine, since the bombing at the concert in Manchester last night. A concert like that is also something that Harry and Meghan couldn't just decide at the last minute to go to and enjoy. Its all part and parcel of being part of the British royal family and definitely not one of the perks methinks.
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Old 05-23-2017, 06:16 PM
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The Telegraph claims that Meghan wore a stunning backless maroon dress to the reception.

No picture, of course, so we'll have to imagine it.
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Old 05-23-2017, 06:17 PM
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I just read 2 posters saying that they don't think Meghan was invited to the church ceremony. Now, how exactly do you know this for sure?

Pippa would not do that to Harry, much less tell him that or else he would not have showed up. He loves his girl!

It's my understand that she was invited but they decided together that she should attend the reception only in order to keep the attention on where it should have been --- The Bride!

She did not attend her castmate's wedding for that same reason.
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Old 05-23-2017, 09:51 PM
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I just read 2 posters saying that they don't think Meghan was invited to the church ceremony. Now, how exactly do you know this for sure?

Pippa would not do that to Harry, much less tell him that or else he would not have showed up. He loves his girl!

It's my understand that she was invited to they decided together that she should attend the reception only in order to keep the attention on where it should have been --- The Bride!

She did not attend her castmate's wedding for that same reason.


We have absolutely no idea whether or not Meghan was invited to the church ceremony. All we know is that she wasn't there - the reason hasn't been released to the public.

The idea that she wouldn't have attended so she could avoid stealing the attention from Pippa is absolutely ridiculous. The only people who would have cared more about Meghan than Pippa are the press/general public. The people who matter - those who were in the church - were there for Pippa and James and would have been unaffected by by Meghan'a presence.
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Old 05-24-2017, 12:54 AM
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This is a rather rubbishy article. However, in the middle of it is info I didn't know. Apparently in April Meghan's agent, Chantal Arthur, answered an enquiry by e-mail about Meghan's religion, and answered stating that Meghan was not Jewish. So that is from the horse's mouth, or as near to it as you can get, and puts the theory of Meghan being Jewish to bed, I think.

Is Meghan Markle Prince Harry’s Jewish Princess? – The Forward
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Old 05-24-2017, 05:27 AM
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Here is an interesting interview from one of Meghan’s friends Priyanka Chopra, who was recently on the Wendy Williams show. Around the 7.45 mark she is asked about Meghan’s relationship with Harry.

She didn’t give too much away but when she was asked whether she thought Meghan & Harry would get married her response was “I hope so”.
Wendy also referred to Meghan simply as Prince Harry’s girlfriend, and Priyanka cleverly put her straight by saying Meghan was an actress in her own right with her own achievements!

People forget that Meghan is an accomplished woman in her own right which I’m sure must be very frustrating.

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Old 05-24-2017, 06:40 AM
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We have absolutely no idea whether or not Meghan was invited to the church ceremony. All we know is that she wasn't there - the reason hasn't been released to the public.

The idea that she wouldn't have attended so she could avoid stealing the attention from Pippa is absolutely ridiculous. The only people who would have cared more about Meghan than Pippa are the press/general public. The people who matter - those who were in the church - were there for Pippa and James and would have been unaffected by by Meghan'a presence.
Yes! Thank you!

1)No one except the principal players knows for sure whether MM was invited to the church or not. Those of us who think she wasn't, as well as those who think she was, are guessing. But for some reason, those of us with the former opinion are being asked to provide proof of our thoughts & opinions by those with the latter opinion

2)While I don't 100% agree that Pippa and her family don't care about the press coverage, I also think that MM would be barely a second thought for those who should matter to the bride & groom. I had a celebrity couple at my wedding (hubby was high school friend of then-boyfriend now-husband of the couple; they married about a year after we did but we couldn't go due to a family wedding the same day, darn it). He's a hometown boy, and my hometown is pretty chill about these things. Anyway, except for one or 2 "I didn't know you and King Penny knew____" comments, no one said a word. I didn't feel in the least upstaged or that my day was "stolen", because my friends & family were there to share in my & my new hubby's joy, not to gawk at celebs. Of course the media had no reason whatsoever to be at my wedding, so there's that But if MM was invited to the church & didn't go in order not to upstage the bride, I consider it more self-importance than anything else. Or a continuation of the (MY OPINION!) games that MM & PH are playing with the press. We all know they are dating, and this is not a random date that could be construed as an invasion of privacy. A walk from the car to the church is not that serious. Really.
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Old 05-24-2017, 10:16 AM
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I agree! We are all guessing and my guess is that Meghan was not invited to the ceremony and to me it is OK that Pippa did not invite Meghan and it is OK that Harry chose to attend without her.

I read the E and Lainey articles and the Lainey article in particular was absurd to me. Maybe Meghan was invited but ketchup got spilled on her dress and she did not attend for that reason, I prefer to believe something like that rather than the upstaging argument or Lainey's assertion about "how protective Harry is about Meghan’s reputation and how engaged he is in managing the narrative around her right now."
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Old 05-24-2017, 10:38 AM
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Meghan's reason for not attending the ceremony may never be known. I think she was invited but she chose not to go because of the press. But she was at the reception, there is a photo that proves this.
What is certain is that this relationship is serious. Meghan is Harry's most discreet girlfriend.
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Old 05-24-2017, 11:15 AM
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I'm not seeing how Meghan not going so that the press wouldn't be all over her is ridiculous? Have you seen the media frenzy before the wedding? The engagement speculations? If she had gone, and they had gotten a picture of her and Harry near each other at the wedding, that'd be the front page the next day with speculation about a possible engagement and Pippa would be an after thought. It's one thing if Kate takes the cover over her own sister, it's another when it's Meghan and Harry. Then you also have the who had better style, the bum wars, etc. Don't think they aren't concerned about the press coverage. If they weren't Pippa wouldn't have hired a PR firm, and Kensington Palace wouldn't have helped organize the media exposure.
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Old 05-24-2017, 11:23 AM
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We have absolutely no idea whether or not Meghan was invited to the church ceremony. All we know is that she wasn't there - the reason hasn't been released to the public.

The idea that she wouldn't have attended so she could avoid stealing the attention from Pippa is absolutely ridiculous. The only people who would have cared more about Meghan than Pippa are the press/general public. The people who matter - those who were in the church - were there for Pippa and James and would have been unaffected by by Meghan'a presence.
I'm confused. You first say we have no idea why Meghan wasn't there but then completely dismiss speculation/opinion as to why she wasn't there? Huh??

The idea that Meghan didn't want to steal the attention is about the press coverage...her being on all the front pages of the tabloids, multiple articles focused on her and Harry, what she wore, etc. And based on all the photos we saw of the bride and groom and their guests, it's clear that the ceremony wasn't a completely private affair. Had Meghan been there, she certainly would have gotten plenty of attention, feeding into the naysayers' arguments about how she is an attention seeker and only cares herself and being seen. Now, I don't completely buy into this speculation but I also don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that Harry and Meghan considered the attention from the press and decided that it was best for her to stay away.
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Old 05-24-2017, 11:33 AM
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Why would Meghan and Harry care about a "media frenzy" over their attending Pippa's wedding together and not care the week before when Meghan unexpectedly showed up at a polo match the week prior and stood at the front of the railing for the spectators and then she showed up the next day and she and Harry kissed in an open area?

The media frenzy is happening in the newsrooms (if those even exists anymore) rather than out on the street. Meghan is not being chased down the street like what happened to Diana numerous times and happened to Kate on her 25th birthday. This wedding was on private property and my understanding is that there were only a few reporters and photographers allowed to cover the event. I can't imagine that an actress who has gone to industry events and given a speech before the Secretary-General of the United Nations can't handle walking across a church green.
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Old 05-24-2017, 11:35 AM
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Why would Meghan and Harry care about a "media frenzy" over their attending Pippa's wedding together and not care the week before when Meghan unexpectedly showed up at a polo match the week prior and stood at the front of the railing for the spectators and then she showed up the next day and she and Harry kissed in an open area?

The media frenzy is happening in the newsrooms (if those even exists anymore) than out on the street. Meghan is not being chased down the street like what happened to Diana numerous times and happened to Kate on her 25th birthday. This wedding was on private property and my understanding is that there were only a few reporters and photographers allowed to cover the event. I can't imagine that an actress who has gone to industry events and given a speech before the Secretary General of the United Nations can't handle walking across a church green.


Because the polo match and other events weren't someone else's event and special day. There's a difference between disruptive media focus on someone else's wedding and it on a polo game or other public event.
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Old 05-24-2017, 11:38 AM
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When it came to Pippa's wedding day, the last thing that I think anybody focused on whether it be friends or family is what the media would do, say, print or who they bash and call attention to. I don't think that other than assuring that the media was kept pretty much at bay for the entire day, that's as far as it goes. I seriously doubt that any of them check avidly everything that's printed about them in the morning and then plan their day accordingly. They don't give the media that kind of power.

The *only* people that really give the media so much power is those that read what they print. The *only* people that form opinions on what these sources write are the outsiders and want a peek into these people's lives. We need to remember that these reporters and photographers and columnists know the "insiders" about as well as we do and we don't. Its the media's job to feed the general public "scoops" and they know whether its based in actual truth or exaggerated truth or even just made up stories, its the general public that is going to read it, believe it and take it as gospel and they get a big, fat paycheck for it.

Does it really matter that Meghan was absent from the wedding ceremony and why she was absent? I don't think so. Its how it went and no one is talking.
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Old 05-24-2017, 11:41 AM
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Why would Meghan and Harry care about a "media frenzy" over their attending Pippa's wedding together and not care the week before when Meghan unexpectedly showed up at a polo match the week prior and stood at the front of the railing for the spectators and then she showed up the next day and she and Harry kissed in an open area?

The media frenzy is happening in the newsrooms (if those even exists anymore) than out on the street. Meghan is not being chased down the street like what happened to Diana numerous times and happened to Kate on her 25th birthday. This wedding was on private property and my understanding is that there were only a few reporters and photographers allowed to cover the event. I can't imagine that an actress who has gone to industry events and given a speech before the Secretary General of the United Nations can't handle walking across a church green.
Keyword here is "unexpectedly"...no one knew Meghan would be there and it was just a polo match, after all. She wouldn't be taking attention from anyone. Completely different from a wedding that has been hyped and reported on for weeks now, with the media expecting, waiting to see if Meghan would show.
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