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Old 05-15-2017, 03:50 PM
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That's weird because we already knew that. I read it as the author showing that their is nothing standing in their way.
Of course that is also how I read the headline of the link. In my normal rounds of internet activity, I scroll through the headlines of "news" on AOL sometimes and its not unusual for 3-4 articles about the British royals to flash up. One that came up several times in the last month or so was "why Harry couldn't marry at Westminster Abbey" or similar. So, in my mind, that was basically the information being fed to the general public. This link today will probably show up on that news feed sooner or later too and dispel the previous statements.
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Old 05-15-2017, 04:08 PM
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I do think that any royal should just be an adult and have a straightforward relationship with the press instead of an immature cloak/dagger approach or in fact, resentfulness punctuated with lawsuits.
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Exactly; she's not suing the media for taking an interest in covering her.
Well, we are certainly nailing it today, AristoCat, not so? I'm with you!
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Old 05-15-2017, 04:20 PM
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Well in the last two years Harry has filed 3 complainants against the press plus he issued the 'infamous' open letter regarding harassment of Meghan last fall.

If Meghan has an issue with the way the royals deal with press intrusion, maybe she shouldn't marry Harry
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Old 05-15-2017, 04:23 PM
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The way I see it is that whatever road or path Meghan has taken in her past were all decisions made by her personally as the way she wanted to go with her life. One different turn at a fork in the road could have put her elsewhere than meeting Harry when she did. The past got her to where she is now.

The crossroads where both Harry and Meghan are right now and the decisions they make will determine their path in the future and as my crystal ball is in the shop for deep cleaning and polishing, that path will remain murky until they walk it and who knows where it will take them in the years to come if they decide to walk the road together.

Life is a beautiful thing filled with challenges and twists and turns and surprises.
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Old 05-15-2017, 04:31 PM
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Well in the last two years Harry has filed 3 complainants against the press plus he issued the 'infamous' open letter regarding harassment of Meghan last fall.

If Meghan has an issue with the way the royals deal with press intrusion, maybe she shouldn't marry Harry
No one should have to put up with racially charged articles or blatantly sexist journalism. Also, calling out the press for trying to enter her garage, the press was out of line.

It seems like Harry had a problem with it, not only Meghan, as he issued the statement, and he is the royal. William supported him, and he's the second in line to be the king.
It seems like the royals were fine with that way of dealing with the press intrusion.
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Old 05-15-2017, 04:43 PM
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Here is a similar article about Julia Louis Dreyfus. Same format.

https://dailynorthwestern.com/2017/0...ing-sag-award/

However, Julia never graduated. She left early to join SNL.

Article about getting honorary degree where she mentioned not graduating.

On the Wild Side: Northwestern Magazine - Northwestern University

So Communications 03 is not really not prove of graduating. However we are veering off topic so I won't make any more posts.

Meghan graduated from Northwestern University in 2003 with a double major in Theater and International Relations. That is a fact which has been backed up by numerous sources.

On Meghan being political, my fear, however, is that Meghan, like many Americans, may have the illusion that the British Royal Family can actually influence public policy and, accordingly, may be tempted to see her marriage to Harry as a way to do so. Although the monarch and, to a lesser extent, the heir to the Crown may still have a marginal (albeit declining ) political influence (mostly due to their direct line of communication with the government) , Meghan, as the wife of the 5th in line to the throne, will have no such power. Again, if she expects to have any political influence then, she may be indeed on her way to a disappointing (but not necessarily "rough") awakening.
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Old 05-15-2017, 04:50 PM
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For me, its interesting to note that although Meghan may have stated that she might have gone into politics, her actual involvement in issues stemmed more towards the humanitarian than political.

Many of the humanitarian issues are those that would be acceptable for Meghan to champion on the world stage as Harry's wife and not be political at all. I can especially see Meghan joining forces with other royals on UN issues or Anne's Save the Children or Harry's Sentebale or.. or.. or... the list goes on.

To me it seems that Meghan's heart is directed more to making changes for the better in lives than to advocate for political policy changes.
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Old 05-15-2017, 04:55 PM
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Well in the last two years Harry has filed 3 complainants against the press plus he issued the 'infamous' open letter regarding harassment of Meghan last fall.

If Meghan has an issue with the way the royals deal with press intrusion, maybe she shouldn't marry Harry
Clearly Harry and Kensington Palace had the sense that racist and malicious comments are unacceptable behaviour. IMO, it was the decent thing to do. When human beings act in an atrocious manner, they should be called out for it and the incidents should not be treated as 'oh well that's the way it has always been, let's continue with being vulgar and nasty'. It is a terrible shame that in this day and age there are people who think so less of fellow human beings that they think it is ok for them to be harassed.

Harry, William, other members of RF and the general public have every right to complain if they want, that is why there is a complaint process in place.
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Old 05-15-2017, 05:00 PM
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No one should have to put up with racially charged articles or blatantly sexist journalism. Also, calling out the press for trying to enter her garage, the press was out of line.

It seems like Harry had a problem with it, not only Meghan, as he issued the statement, and he is the royal. William supported him, and he's the second in line to be the king.
It seems like the royals were fine with that way of dealing with the press intrusion.
Some people are mad at Meghan for being upset over the media's racist coverage of her mother's family. They see nothing wrong with the coverage stating that Meghan should just keep quiet over the racist overtones and accept it. So as always instead of supporting the victim the champion the rights of the racist media and place the blame on the person who did not ask for the abuse. I find it all sad.
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Old 05-15-2017, 05:17 PM
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Actually, at the time Harry and KP released the statement to admonish the press for their treatment of Meghan and her family, I saw it as them putting their money where their mouth is so to speak. It wasn't issued just because Meghan happened to be the girlfriend of Harry's at the time but because it was downright bullying and harassing and intrusion tactics against another human being that resulted from a press interest because of a royal.

If I'm not mistaken, The Royal Foundation already had in place a campaign against bullying in many areas of society that Will, Kate and Harry had addressed previous to this KP release. With Meghan, the press overstepped their boundaries and the right and proper thing that was done is to publicly call them out for their bad behavior. The statement not only was a means of protecting Meghan but was also setting a clear example that it should not and will not be tolerated and fortified the stance the royals were taking already on such matters.

At least thats how I see it.
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Old 05-15-2017, 05:32 PM
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Meghan graduated from Northwestern University in 2003 with a double major in Theater and International Relations. That is a fact which has been backed up by numerous sources.

On Meghan being political, my fear, however, is that Meghan, like many Americans, may have the illusion that the British Royal Family can actually influence public policy and, accordingly, may be tempted to see her marriage to Harry as a way to do so. Although the monarch and, to a lesser extent, the heir to the Crown may still have a marginal (albeit declining ) political influence (mostly due to their direct line of communication with the government) , Meghan, as the wife of the 5th in line to the throne, will have no such power. Again, if she expects to have any political influence then, she may be indeed on her way to a disappointing (but not necessarily "rough") awakening.
If Meghan picks up a newspaper at all, she'll have seen the coverage of Charles' "black spider memos". It was covered in WaPo, NYT, the Toronto Star, The Globe and Mail, and the National Post. So the basic premise -- that it was a problem for the PoW to try to influence policy -- has been well covered in North America. Unless she strikes you as someone who doesn't pay any attention to the news, she's likely fine.
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Old 05-15-2017, 10:54 PM
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She is listed as Rachel Markle and not Meghan at Northwestern ? I hadn't thought of that!!

I bet Harry calls her Rachel and not Meghan. I think Meghan is just for show business.
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She is listed as Rachel Markle and not Meghan at Northwestern ? I hadn't thought of that!!



I bet Harry calls her Rachel and not Meghan. I think Meghan is just for show business.


Her friends seem to call her Meghan. It really depends on when she started using the name. My husband has gone by his middle name his whole life- since he was a toddler at least. His school has him listed by his formal name but no one calls him that.

KP referred to her as Meghan in their official letter.
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She is listed as Rachel Markle and not Meghan at Northwestern ? I hadn't thought of that!!

I bet Harry calls her Rachel and not Meghan. I think Meghan is just for show business.
Her friends call her Meghan. Schools and any official documents they issue would have her official name, rather than what she goes by, on it.
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Old 05-15-2017, 11:24 PM
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Yeps. Just like Harry is Prince Henry of Wales but no one really calls him Henry.
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Yes, unless you legally change your name, any legal document has to have your proper name on it. Would never occur to me to look at official university records under Meghan.

The wedding will be Prince Henry and Miss Rachel Markle. Harry and Meghan in private or unofficial.
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Old 05-16-2017, 06:29 AM
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Yes, unless you legally change your name, any legal document has to have your proper name on it. Would never occur to me to look at official university records under Meghan.

The wedding will be Prince Henry and Miss Rachel Markle. Harry and Meghan in private or unofficial.
Funny story. My grandmother's name -- so far as I've always known -- is E.... M.... [last name]. But then one day I saw her birth certificate, where it was listed as M.... E..... [last name]. I asked her about it; E & M were her aunts, and M was the older of the two. My great-grandparents wanted to call her E, but M was the older of the aunts. So they put M first on the birth certificate and called her E.

However, her passport, nursing diploma, and driver's licence were all under E.... M.... [last name]. When I asked her what she'd signed in the registry when she married Grandpa, she said "E.... M...., of course". To which I asked her if she was actually married.
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Yes, unless you legally change your name, any legal document has to have your proper name on it. Would never occur to me to look at official university records under Meghan.



The wedding will be Prince Henry and Miss Rachel Markle. Harry and Meghan in private or unofficial.


Not necessarily...

My grandmother had 4 names including her last name (I- M- I- Last Name), but always went by her first middle name (M-). She had some legal documentation that listed her as I- M- I- Last Name, others that were just I- M- Last Name, and others still that were M- Last Name; it all just depended on the documentation. I had to make a call for her once regarding a prescription for her and had her BC ID, her healthcare card (government issued), SIN card, and her personal insurance card, each which had a different name on it.
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Old 05-16-2017, 07:41 AM
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But Meghan Markle is not the age of any of our grandmothers. Authorities have generally become much, much bigger sticklers for to-the-letter legal names than in past generations.
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Old 05-16-2017, 08:55 AM
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Meghan has said in an interview that even though she was named Rachel Meghan by her parents, she has never been called Rachel. I guess it was her parents decision to start referring to her as Meghan from childhood & it stuck! It is not unusual for some parents to call their kids by their middle name.
On a side note there is already a precedence for royals to go by their middle names. Queen Victoria for instance was actually christened Alexandrina Victoria. So Meghan is in good company!

On all official documents & during her wedding vows she will be referred to as Rachel Meghan, but at all other times she goes by Meghan. I’m pretty sure Harry also calls her Meghan along with any other cute & mushy nicknames they’ve given each other!

Interview where she talks about her name (15 seconds in)
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