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Old 05-15-2017, 08:23 AM
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In this interview, she states if she wasn't acting she would be involved in politics. The RF stays neural and quiet on political matters. Would she be able to do the same? I can't imagine the press would take well to an American member of the RF commenting on British affairs.
Also interesting she had issues passing the foreign service exam.
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Old 05-15-2017, 09:08 AM
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In this interview, she states if she wasn't acting she would be involved in politics. The RF stays neural and quiet on political matters. Would she be able to do the same? I can't imagine the press would take well to an American member of the RF commenting on British affairs.
Also interesting she had issues passing the foreign service exam.
Her statement in that video about politics is pretty vague. Whether or not it would be difficult for her to be neutral on political matters depends on what aspect of politics/governance she would have wanted to take on in her career and what about it interests her.

She was on a diplomatic career track before shifting into acting; in many ways the job of a royal is all about diplomacy. It should be noted that the Foreign Service Exam has a reputation for being very difficult. The written portion covers a very broad range of subjects and the interview phase involves having to troubleshoot complicated, thorny problems very quickly while a panel watches. She must have passed it, though, to have worked in the embassy in Argentina.

There are a lot of political positions within government agencies that are about championing/enacting policies related to the welfare of citizens. In monarchies, the next step after passing those policies through the government seems to be snagging some member of the royal family to highlight the new programs through patronages, attending key events, etc. So if that's what interested her, there's still very much a role to play.

But yes, if what she wanted to do was run for an elected office, play a role in campaigns or crafting laws, the royal life might be frustrating for her.

The good news for Meghan is that she seems to have already had a pretty good idea of what she wants to do with her life and what she finds fulfilling. She's experienced a dramatic change in career already, when she shifted from foreign service to acting. So that surely puts her in a good position to really think through whether her goals and aspirations line up well with the kind of life Harry has to offer. We'll just have to "stay tuned" to see what she and her prince decide on that matter.
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Old 05-15-2017, 09:15 AM
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Her statement in that video about politics is pretty vague. Whether or not it would be difficult for her to be neutral on political matters depends on what aspect of politics/governance she would have wanted to take on in her career and what about it interests her.

She was on a diplomatic career track before shifting into acting; in many ways the job of a royal is all about diplomacy. It should be noted that the Foreign Service Exam has a reputation for being very difficult. The written portion covers a very broad range of subjects and the interview phase involves having to troubleshoot complicated, thorny problems very quickly while a panel watches. She must have passed it, though, to have worked in the embassy in Argentina.

There are a lot of political positions within government agencies that are about championing/enacting policies related to the welfare of citizens. In monarchies, the next step after passing those policies through the government seems to be snagging some member of the royal family to highlight the new programs through patronages, attending key events, etc. So if that's what interested her, there's still very much a role to play.

But yes, if what she wanted to do was run for an elected office, play a role in campaigns or crafting laws, the royal life might be frustrating for her.

The good news for Meghan is that she seems to have already had a pretty good idea of what she wants to do with her life and what she finds fulfilling. She's experienced a dramatic change in career already, when she shifted from foreign service to acting. So that surely puts her in a good position to really think through whether her goals and aspirations line up well with the kind of life Harry has to offer. We'll just have to "stay tuned" to see what she and her prince decide on that matter.
I think she had an internship at the Embassy, not an actual position(I could be wrong though). I just looked up the foreign service exam and process and its very intense. I wonder how many start the process and make it to the end.
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Old 05-15-2017, 09:19 AM
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I think she had an internship at the Embassy, not an actual position(I could be wrong though). I just looked up the foreign service exam and process and its very intense. I wonder how many start the process and make it to the end.
Oh, I hadn't heard that it was an internship. One way or another, it is a very intense process. I have family who went into foreign service after earning very intensive advanced degrees; they were on pins and needles until they passed the test in a way that they never were about any of the big hurdles involved in graduate school!
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Old 05-15-2017, 09:29 AM
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She worked at the embassy of Argentina, so I don't know what kind or what level of politics she is talking about. She, to me, seems so charming, easy going, and easy to talk to/with.
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Old 05-15-2017, 09:42 AM
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I think Meghan is one of the most ill suited royal girlfriends in a long time. If they do get married, she's really going to struggle to be accepted into The Firm and British society in general.

It's Harry's choice obviously, but I think 'Media Meghan' is in for a rude awakening when the time comes.
What do you know about British society, being a Canadian? No offense.

Also, the "Media Meghan" nickname baffles me- is it because she has an Instagram account and a blog? Wow. Shocking! She has social media like the majority of the population! How exactly does that make her a bad girlfriend for Harry? As far as I know she has been discreet and posts innocuous things, mostly motivational quotes or pictures of her humanitarian work.

If Diana was a royal girlfriend today, she'd probably have social media too.
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Old 05-15-2017, 09:56 AM
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What do you know about British society, being a Canadian? No offense.

Also, the "Media Meghan" nickname baffles me- is it because she has an Instagram account and a blog? Wow. Shocking! She has social media like the majority of the population! How exactly does that make her a bad girlfriend for Harry? As far as I know she has been discreet and posts innocuous things, mostly motivational quotes or pictures of her humanitarian work.

If Diana was a royal girlfriend today, she'd probably have social media too.
Media Meghan is just projection. As an actress the media and publicity is just a part of life but IMHO Meghan is fairly lowkey. I followed her before Prince Harry and she was like any other low key celebrity who acts, promotes their show, gets involved with humanitarian issues, but regarding her personal life I didnt even know she was married. People say she is a social climber and yet she never talked about her relationships and her IG page never mentioned her boyfriend or husband. My impression at that time was that she was on the Kerry Washington track of being on a hit show, involved in fashion and lifestyle and also politics while keeping her private life private. The exact opposite of The Kardashian model.

If my impression is wrong then I need receipts and not just tumblr rumors and conspiracy theory.
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Old 05-15-2017, 10:01 AM
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Quite right Marge. I agree with you!

By the way, the Express asked the Westminster Abbey authorities about Harry marrying a divorcee and about a possible interfaith marriage there, and a spokesperson said that both were OK.

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle 'CAN marry at Westminster Abbey' | Royal | News | Express.co.uk

Although the reply from the Abbey authorities is reassuring for the couple, my humble impression, which may be wrong BTW, is that the real goal of this particular article in the Express was to draw the readers' attention to the fact that Meghan is a "divorcee" and once self-identitified herself as a "Jew" and "half black, half white". In other words, there might be a malicious intention behind it.
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Old 05-15-2017, 10:03 AM
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That says more about The Firm than Meghan, if I'd think it to be true. But I'm struggling to see how she's ill suited. And I'm struggling to what the rude awakening is going to be.

Imo the whole BRF is big on media and PR, 'Media Meghan' has even that experience in the bag.

The only person to decide she is ill suited would be Harry. It is his personal life and choice. I have no doubt in my mind that whoever Harry marries will be well protected from The Firm.
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Old 05-15-2017, 10:05 AM
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Although the reply from the Abbey authorities is reassuring for the couple, my humble impression, which may be wrong BTW, is that the real goal of this particular article in the Express was to draw the readers' attention to the fact that Meghan is a "divorcee" and once self-identitified herself as a "Jew" and "half black, half white". In other words, there might be a malicious intention behind it.

That's weird because we already knew that. I read it as the author showing that their is nothing standing in their way.
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Old 05-15-2017, 10:19 AM
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That's weird because we already knew that. I read it as the author showing that their is nothing standing in their way.
Well, those of us who enjoy following royal news already knew that. But folks just starting to pay attention to Harry and Meghan after the wedding and polo sightings may not have been aware before reading this...
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Old 05-15-2017, 10:26 AM
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I would bet a lot of money that she didn't pass the Foreign Service Exams. Not underestimating her capability to pass it, just that most people have a fanatic view towards becoming a career diplomat so I can't imagine anybody who's passed the exams to afterwards decide on becoming an actor. I've met US diplomats who used to be an actual part-time clown while studying for the exams, an aid worker, a military man, but the end goal was joining the Foreign Service. Studying for the exams itself already feels like a career. (I don't know exactly how the US exams go but in my country, you study and prepare for the process, take the 5 stages of the exams which last 2 years, and when you pass you spend 2 years in the Capital before being assigned as Third Secretary first. Attachés and Assistants have different exams--less stringent but still not easy.)

My guess is she was an intern or or under contract consultant or volunteer for an attached agency like USAid.
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Old 05-15-2017, 11:48 AM
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It was an internship. It's in this interview. It's also unclear if she actually graduated from Northwestern since she talks about going to LA after Argentina and getting acting jobs.

http://www.marieclaire.com/celebrity...kle-interview/
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Old 05-15-2017, 12:38 PM
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It was an internship. It's in this interview. It's also unclear if she actually graduated from Northwestern since she talks about going to LA after Argentina and getting acting jobs.

Meghan Markle Interview - Rachel Zane Suits USA Actress
I also started working directly after doing a university internship that doesn't mean that I didn't graduate. MM is part of Northwestern alumni. During a Suits promotion at NW, there were also interviews discussing in print and video, she graduated in 2003.
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Old 05-15-2017, 01:04 PM
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It was an internship. It's in this interview. It's also unclear if she actually graduated from Northwestern since she talks about going to LA after Argentina and getting acting jobs.

Meghan Markle Interview - Rachel Zane Suits USA Actress
From the sources mouth itself and I don't mean Meghan. This is northwesterns alumni magazine. Refers to her as convocation 2003.

https://dailynorthwestern.com/2014/0...its-to-campus/

As for her talking about political career I don't see the concern. She wasn't saying if she quit acting today she'd go into politics. But that if she hadn't gone into acting, her other choice was politics.

Like many college students she had a double major, theater and foreign relations in her case. She chose to pursue theater. She switched majors at one point. The internship she took seemed to be to test if she liked it or not. By the time she graduated she had decided on acting so no need for foreign service exam.

Many people end up on different paths then they started. I went to university and pursued a double major in history abd English. Even did a year towards a masters. Now I am a nurse.
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Old 05-15-2017, 01:56 PM
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Exactly, Countessmeout completely understandable. I did something similar with my university major and career changes, therefore not difficult for me to relate.

I also don't see the big deal about previous interviews Meg has done referring to politics. She is not a member of the BRF yet. And in those interviews, she did not say, hey people now I'm dating Prince Harry, I'm going to be a part time princess and run to be president of the US too. Meghan has clearly shown that she is more than capable to do what is necessary when it is needed. IMO she has already done this, decreased her public social media posts, shut down her blog, The Tig, didn't renew her contract for her clothing line. In the meantime, she continues to quietly complete her acting contract, good for her!
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Old 05-15-2017, 01:59 PM
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Here is a similar article about Julia Louis Dreyfus. Same format.

https://dailynorthwestern.com/2017/0...ing-sag-award/

However, Julia never graduated. She left early to join SNL.

Article about getting honorary degree where she mentioned not graduating.

http://www.northwestern.edu/magazine...wild-side.html

So Communications 03 is not really not prove of graduating. However we are veering off topic so I won't make any more posts.
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Old 05-15-2017, 02:04 PM
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All these interviews she was giving before, partly to promote Suits, weren't her CV, she wasn't asked for career paths or exact time lines of her studies. She gave answers to what if scenarios, if she wasn't an actress, a hypothetical situation. She seems to have found another passion in charity work, where she also can make a difference.
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Communications vs convocation. Notice the difference

Julia is referred to having been a communications student of the class of 1983. She isn't referred to as a graduate because she didn't.

Meghan is referred to as convocation 2003. That is a graduate.
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Old 05-15-2017, 02:58 PM
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My husband and I graduated from Northwestern University. There is a website for alumni where you can look up anyone who graduated. Megan is not listed under Megan Markle but under Rachel Markle . She graduated from the School of Communication in 2003. So I hope this ends that discussion. Someone else brought up Julia Louis Dreyfus. Many of Northwestern's famous school of speech/communication graduates did not actually graduate from Northwestern University. From Ann-Margret to the girl in Father of the Bride, many are discovered while students at Northwestern and do not return.
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