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Old 05-10-2017, 07:24 PM
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Markle's sis told Inside Edition: "I see Meghan and [Prince] Harry as definitely getting married."

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Old 05-10-2017, 07:26 PM
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They attend as the events are for charity. Same applies to the Royal Film Performance (HMQ used to attend every year) and the Royal Command Performance. All money raised is for designated charities.
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Old 05-10-2017, 07:29 PM
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Markle's sis told Inside Edition: "I see Meghan and [Prince] Harry as definitely getting married."

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Her?! Meghan's public enemy #1 and first and foremost critic?!
Samantha Grant should be ashamed of herself.

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Exactly right - we will know if and when Harry and Meghan get engaged: it will be if and when an announcement is made. There really is no point whatsoever saying it'll be in the summer, it'll be after Invictus, it won't be until the end of the year - upon what basis do we make such assumption? None whatsoever! It is not a competition to to see who is right!
No it is not a competition to see who will be right or wrong. Neither do I have credible inside sources on the couple..etc

As I mentioned in my post, it is just my thoughts on the status of the couple's relationship after reading all the articles about Meghan's supposed full attendance at Pippa's wedding.
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Old 05-10-2017, 07:34 PM
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Markle's sis told Inside Edition: "I see Meghan and [Prince] Harry as definitely getting married."

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And there we have it folks. Straight from a very discreditable source known for running at the mouth.
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Old 05-10-2017, 07:37 PM
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Such as Grace Kelly marrying the reigning Prince of Monaco and bringing down the Principality's prestige?


I know what you mean but I can't compare Monaco with UK. I don't know a lot about Monaco but I associate it with casinos, Hollywood celebrities etc if this is before or after Grace I don't know. Anyway I don't think it matters for Meghan. I have read a bit about how Grace missed her acting but Meghan is no where near Graces standing as an actor
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Old 05-10-2017, 07:37 PM
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Such as Grace Kelly marrying the reigning Prince of Monaco and bringing down the Principality's prestige?
Good point But Monaco is, shall we say, unique. And Grace Kelly was considered to be the epitome of class and glamour; now if Rainier had married someone like Joan Collins it might be a different story

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I based my opinion on something totally different than you did. As the British Royal Family (mainly the Queen) need to remain politically neutral, it is the same thing, to me at least, with commercial ventures. They do not want anything that could point to the fact that the BRF prefers something over another.

Case in example. The Boogity Awards for best hairstyle on TV is sponsored by Coca Cola. Meghan and Harry attend as she has gorgeous hair. It would be all to easy to spin it to mean that Harry, Prince of the UK prefers Coke over Pepsi.

We have seen William and Kate attend BAFTA events as William is president of BAFTA so who knows? Nothing much surprises me these days.
You are correct, and I maybe shouldn't have quoted you, though I absolutely agree with your point about the BRF needing to remain neutral.
With a plethora of cable channels, streaming services, You Tube, reality TV, etc., celebrities are now a dime a dozen and not all possess talent, unlike in the days of Grace Kelly and I hate to see royalty go down that road. I know QEII allowed cameras to film her family during private time 40 or so years ago, and I do not think she considered it a success.

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I know what you mean but I can't compare Monaco with UK. I don't know a lot about Monaco but I associate it with casinos, Hollywood celebrities etc if this is before or after Grace I don't know. Anyway I don't think it matters for Meghan. I have read a bit about how Grace missed her acting but Meghan is no where near Graces standing as an actor
Thank you for stating this much better than I did!
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Old 05-10-2017, 07:40 PM
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Ah Yes, Samantha, the half sibling who, according to other family members, has seen Meghan precisely once since 1993. Taking another 45 degree turn I see, praise, bash, disrespect, praise, throw mud, bash.

As soon as Meghan becomes engaged to Harry all commercial endorsements by her, direct or indirect, will of course cease.

Do Meghan's considerable philanthropic activities, her skills at public speaking and ease when meeting and greeting others, count for nothing then in a role as a future Duchess.

Compared, of course, to her being a 'D-list celebrity' in a profession where there is incidentally approximately 95% unemployment at any one time, and she has been regularly employed in a TV series for over six seasons?

I noticed, by the way, people on Twitter (and Niraj Tanna on his page) linking the favourable car deals members of the BRF get with the firm with the polo match sponsored by Audi at which both William and Harry played a few days ago.
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Old 05-10-2017, 08:39 PM
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I'm wondering if the couple are already secretly engaged? What on earth could explain the sudden change then?
If the groom's brother cannot bring his own girlfriend, how is it a friend of the bride can bring his girlfriend. 🤔
I'm thinking the couple will announce their engagement early summer with Meghan traveling with Harry to Africa in the fall.

We really don't know if the groom's brother cannot bring a plus one, since the model he is currently dating has a work assignment that day.

One of Pippa's friends denies that Pippa ever had the no ring policy.

A lot of what we've heard is just speculation by the press.
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Old 05-10-2017, 08:40 PM
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I understand that a select few feel an actress marrying a royal brings down the royalness of it all. I would accept opinion as opposed to those who think Meghan isn't good enough because shes American. But I've started d to believe that once a ball gets rolling you can't stop it. You can't say one commoner, Kate, is better than another Megan. And at least the later has a successful career even if she is D list.
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Old 05-10-2017, 09:30 PM
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I understand that a select few feel an actress marrying a royal brings down the royalness of it all. I would accept opinion as opposed to those who think Meghan isn't good enough because shes American. But I've started d to believe that once a ball gets rolling you can't stop it. You can't say one commoner, Kate, is better than another Megan. And at least the later has a successful career even if she is D list.
I pretty much wager my last Klondike Bar (chocolate mint) that Meghan is on Harry's A+++ list. That's really all that matters.
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Old 05-10-2017, 09:41 PM
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Let's be honest.. calling Meghan D-list is straight up just a way to insult her. "D-list" means people on reality television; it in no way reflects her level of accomplishment or fame.
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Old 05-10-2017, 09:54 PM
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I thought D list were porn stars... reality tv peeps are Z listers! Meg is definitely B, B-.
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Old 05-10-2017, 09:58 PM
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Putting these people in alphabetical lists are like comparing podiatrists with dermatologists. They both do what they're best at.
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Old 05-10-2017, 10:58 PM
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Putting these people in alphabetical lists are like comparing podiatrists with dermatologists. They both do what they're best at.


that's very funny

By the way by me saying Meghan isn't in Graces league as a actor is by no means putting her down just stating the fact. Now if that makes less or more able to be a princess I have absolutely no idea. It's a huge commitment for anyone who marries into a RF
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Old 05-10-2017, 11:32 PM
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Generally speaking

A: movie stars and headliners. Box office starlets
B: succesful actors well known but not huge ticket sellers
C: often character actors, people whose character may be known but they themselves are so so.
D: reality stars. Obscure actors at best.

Meghan low B (high b now with Harry) to high c. Identified mainly with her character but some success outside suits, pushes her to low b.

Royals today don't need aristocratic blood. They need to be able to do the job. They need to be comfortable in public, able to make speeches, not flustered by media, and dedicated to charity. Nothing I have seen of Meghan leads me to believe she doesn't have any of these in spades. Being an actress is actually a good foundation for a lot.

I often find it interesting there wasn't the same issue with Cressida. She was a dancer and actress. Seems to be over looked as she is English, and has some posh blood.
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Old 05-10-2017, 11:34 PM
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Whatever list of an actress Meghan is, doesn't really matter, IMO. She's been on a long running show for years, and many actresses only dream about getting even her kind of career. It Imo again boils down to some people demanding the woman Harry's dating to be A list in whatever she does, be supermodel beautiful, but still be ready to walk away from that A list career the moment she exchanged numbers with Harry.
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Old 05-10-2017, 11:38 PM
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Whatever list of an actress Meghan is, doesn't really matter, IMO. She's been on a long running show for years, and many actresses only dream about getting even her kind of career. It Imo again boils down to some people demanding the woman Harry's dating to be A list in whatever she does, be supermodel beautiful, but still be ready to walk away from that A list career the moment she exchanged numbers with Harry.
Exactly. Said it before he could date a woman who looked like Giselle Buncheon, had two doctorates, and found a cure for some disease while devoting her life to Doctors Without Borders, and people would still complain. The level of perfection some people seem to expect I don't think exist in a human being.
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Old 05-10-2017, 11:45 PM
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A: movie stars and headliners. Box office starlets

B: succesful actors well known but not huge ticket sellers

C: often character actors, people whose character may be known but they themselves are so so.

D: reality stars. Obscure actors at best.



Meghan low B (high b now with Harry) to high c. Identified mainly with her character but some success outside suits, pushes her to low b.



Royals today don't need aristocratic blood. They need to be able to do the job. They need to be comfortable in public, able to make speeches, not flustered by media, and dedicated to charity. Nothing I have seen of Meghan leads me to believe she doesn't have any of these in spades. Being an actress is actually a good foundation for a lot.



I often find it interesting there wasn't the same issue with Cressida. She was a dancer and actress. Seems to be over looked as she is English, and has some posh blood.


I don't think many took it serious I never did I thought she was just someone for a bit of fun.
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Old 05-11-2017, 03:54 AM
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. . . As much as I do not believe that anyone is better than anyone else simply by virtue of their birth, royalty does have an air of elitism and royals are seen as being 'a cut above'. They should not be celebrities even though the younger generations seem to be steering things that way, and the possible addition of an actual (granted D-list) celebrity to any royal family lessens the specialness (for lack of a better word) for me.
I don't think that young or even not so young royals aspire to celebrity but rather are hounded by the media because they can be. Imagine the childhood of both HM and Princess Margaret who were photographed at their parents' discretion and, when they grew older and attended official engagements they expected to be photographed and perhaps have the occasional journalist ask an impertinent question which they totally ignored.

Seventy years later, the royals are faced with a multi-media world that technology keeps improving. The current wave of media all seem to believe that anything they do to get a story is valid, there are no thoughts of ethics, merely the money to be made by getting the first photo of what they consider "news". They don't even recognise the difference between royalty and celebrity, thus we have a lawbreaking photo of DoC sunbathing topless in privacy exposed by a technology that rendered her privacy void. Conversely, we have a romance that is driving the competition to be the first to get a photo of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle;

together - check
holding hands - check
kissing- check
visiting each other's home - check and check

and I daren't even think about what the next "first" is.

Harry seeks publicity for his charitable endeavours, Meghan seeks publicity in her role of Global Ambassador for World Vision Canada, also as an advocate for the United Nations Entity for Gender Equality and the Empowerment of Women. Neither of them is acting as a celebrity.

I have never seen Meghan as an "A, B, C or D, Celebrity" but rather as an actress, an activist and a feminist. Somehow I thought the "feminist" would be the stumbling block.
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Osipi.. Lord Fermoy was merely a minor Peer, not a Prince of the Realm.

That said, if Ms Markle is the Harry's desired wife, and acceptable to his family and a RADICAL change of life is alright by Ms Markel, then 'who am I to judge'. I'll wish them well..
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