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Old 05-02-2017, 10:13 PM
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You are absolutely correct. It often seems that these days, being a feminist means having a career around which you try to fit children (if you really have to), and when you are a high flyer giving up work for the first few years of your children's lives is snarled upon.

However, it seems we reserve our nastiest invective to those who dare shun a career completely because they want to be a mother and are in the fortunate situation of being able to afford not to work outside the home. Pity those poor women who, when asked what they do, reply 'I'm a housewife'.

The first feminists got us the vote and 'feminism' as a slow moving force has gotten us many different basic human rights like equal pay for equal work, etc. But many of those who call themselves feminists these days would chain us to our office chair as surely as our grandmothers were chained to the home. They have forgotten that feminism was about the right to choose their future.

Think of the situation CP Victoria and Daniel found themselves. Expected to be an example to both Sweden and the world of Sweden's forward thinking and take parental leave! Amazing and here we are still having hissy fits over the fact that Harry's wife would have to give up her career and Harry isn't even engaged let alone married.
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And this is relevant how

We're not talking post marriage. We're not talking being a wife and mother. Which a royal can't be. They are expected to do royal patronages. No one on here can say if Kate said she was never going to do any events or patronages, she was going to stay home abd raise the kids, that we'd be happy, that it was her right as a female. Why? Because when she married a royal she didn't get just a husband, she took a job.

We're talking dating. There is no ring. There are no children. It isn't a choice to be a housewife. You have to be a wife for that to be a choice.

There have been posts suggesting if she was actually committed to Harry she would quit her job and make herself available. That is what I have issues with. Why does a woman Have to give up her life for a man? Why is it only women expected to quit a job to show they are committed?

Calling us nasty when you make comments about women 'fitting in children' quite nastily suggesting a working woman is selfish it's pathetic you attack modern women for not supporting house wives while slamming us for careers. Why don't the men stay home? If it's so important a parent is home. Because being a man its normal, a woman having dreams is selfish

Women should be free to make Any choice. They don't need to be shamed for selfishly 'fitting kids in' any more than staying home.

Meghan if she marries will have yo give up her career. There is no need for her before. Some women you're right choose to focus on finding a husband not a career. Obviously Meghan is not one. When she chooses to leave her career is her choice and not any sign of lack of commitment to Harry.
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Old 05-02-2017, 10:49 PM
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And this is relevant how

We're not talking post marriage.
We're not talking being a wife and mother. Which a royal can't be. They are expected to do royal patronages. No one on here can say if Kate said she was never going to do any events or patronages, she was going to stay home abd raise the kids, that we'd be happy, that it was her right as a female. Why? Because when she married a royal she didn't get just a husband, she took a job.

We're talking dating. There is no ring. There are no children. It isn't a choice to be a housewife. You have to be a wife for that to be a choice.

There have been posts suggesting if she was actually committed to Harry she would quit her job and make herself available. That is what I have issues with. Why does a woman Have to give up her life for a man? Why is it only women expected to quit a job to show they are committed?

Calling us nasty when you make comments about women 'fitting in children' quite nastily suggesting a working woman is selfish it's pathetic you attack modern women for not supporting house wives while slamming us for careers. Why don't the men stay home? If it's so important a parent is home. Because being a man its normal, a woman having dreams is selfish

Women should be free to make Any choice. They don't need to be shamed for selfishly 'fitting kids in' any more than staying home.

Meghan if she marries will have yo give up her career. There is no need for her before. Some women you're right choose to focus on finding a husband not a career. Obviously Meghan is not one. When she chooses to leave her career is her choice and not any sign of lack of commitment to Harry.
Peace Countess. I was responding to ladongas and agreeing that some of our harshest critics are women themselves. I was certainly not accusing posters of being nasty but of rather attitudes in the workplace such as those women who have to resign and find a new job when their child is either old enough for daycare or nursery school.

I wish Victoria and Daniel's situation was the norm, both seen as equally in need of parental leave and equally responsible. But that is not the case but it can be for Harry and Meghan.

Should they get engaged, marry and have a child, I would love to see it as normal that they both take parental leave, make individual sacrifices for their child because even in that rarified lifestyle choices have to be made.

However, I will put my hand up for laughing about posts and media articles saying Meghan should chuck everything in and move in with Harry to show how serious she is. Your last paragraph summed up the situation nicely.

My point too was that Harry and Meghan are not even engaged and yet . . . . .
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Old 05-02-2017, 11:08 PM
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Meghan Markle reveals love of food, fashion and travel | Daily Mail Online

Meghan's love of cooking, fashion and movies.
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Old 05-02-2017, 11:49 PM
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That's very old (re-published by British GH, from original article in US Good Housekeeping last August). Daily Fail is picking up the re-hashed story from The Telegraph. Not an ounce of anything that's new news there.

Here's an old Youtube video of Meghan promoting the GH article in July of last year:


Lovely, inspiring Meghan, as always. But it's not current news. Tabloids are desperate for clicks and digging for fodder to rehash and piece together non-stories, as usual.

US Good Housekeeping online picture gallery from July 12, 2016:
http://www.goodhousekeeping.com/beau...fashion-2016/?
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Old 05-03-2017, 12:05 AM
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I just love this young lady!
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Old 05-03-2017, 02:57 AM
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I think that Meghan has been put on such a high pedestal. So much will be expected of her from day one as a royal and we know what happens when a royal doesn't meet our expectations
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Old 05-03-2017, 03:27 AM
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Oh, I don't know about that! Meghan's been getting a whacking on the Internet and in the DM comments section since November, and has been accused of many things.
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Old 05-03-2017, 03:33 AM
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I guess I just don't read those papers. Everything I've seen is how capable she will be because of her work charity's etc
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Old 05-03-2017, 04:22 AM
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iWomen should be free to make Any choice. They don't need to be shamed for selfishly 'fitting kids in' any more than staying home.
I think that the problem of expectations of what a woman should or shouldn't do as far as feminism isn't ever going to be totally resolved until a way of thinking is completely changed and your statement, Countessmeout, is rewritten to state that "People should be free to make any choice."

Can you imagine the royal turmoil and buzzing over the back fences if Harry and Meghan decided that she would continue on with her professional life while Harry stays home as with the kids and the dogs in the role of a househusband? This too would be a choice made that fits their lives and perfectly reasonable. It boils down to choices.

Of course that scenario is one I don't ever see happening as I believe that Harry has big plans and ideas on how he wants to use his position on the world stage as a senior royal and most likely the relationship he is pursuing is because the woman he is seeing most likely has the same vision of working with him on that world stage as a partner in life. They would be partners in raising children. They would be partners in whatever they do. They would both make the choice that this is what they envision for their future and do it together as equal partners going into a marriage.
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Old 05-04-2017, 02:25 AM
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My Dr Pepper traces, I read them as I don't drink tea, already told me that Dr Pepper traces are by far the most reliable source you know
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Old 05-04-2017, 02:52 AM
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Someone I know who was very superstitious, had her tea leaves read and the reader (a friend) told her she could see a boat sinking. This person cancelled her cruise on the strength of this, though she'd paid a deposit! Nothing happened to the liner so she missed out on a cruise around the Greek islands. Most people, thank heavens, use their commonsense and their own free will when deciding events in their lives.
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Old 05-04-2017, 03:04 AM
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Common sense says this is going to prove true, best kind of prediction, the fool proof one.

It's May. A royal wedding, even jf smaller than William, takes months to plan. Unless one was announced in the next month or so, not going to happen. November is the big anniversary for the queen, not going to happen then and not likely at Christmas.

By the way my Dr Pepper traces predict flowers are going to grow this month.
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Old 05-06-2017, 12:51 AM
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Since I know the question of whether Meghan is Jewish has come up several times, and I stumbled across an article in Variety this evening that makes a definitive claim, I thought I'd mention it.

The context was about an award that the UJA-Federation gave to Bonnie Hammer, who's the head of all NBC Universal Cable networks (including USA, where Suits lives). The co-hosts of the evening were Meghan and the star of another USA Network show, Mark Feuerstein.

The article states:
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Mark Feuerstein of USA’s “Royal Pains” and Meghan Markle of USA’s “Suits” emceed the dinner. Feuerstein charmed the crowd with an energetic rap in Hebrew and by quickly teaching his gentile co-host the HaMotzi blessing for bread. (Bonnie Hammer Talks Prejudice and Progress at UJA-Federation Fete | Variety)
To me, that's reasonable evidence that Meghan is not Jewish. Variety is pretty reputable, I think. So we can strike one thing off the "things to worry about if Harry and Meghan ever get married" list.
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Old 05-06-2017, 01:21 AM
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Does it matter? She may be ethnically Jewish but that isn't an issue.
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Old 05-06-2017, 01:36 AM
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It apparently matters enough that it's come up six or seven times in this thread.

Since I found information about a subject that people are talking about and questioning, I thought I'd mention it. If I should have waited to post the article until the subject came up again, please do let me know.
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Old 05-06-2017, 01:53 AM
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What we know

Ethnically she is African American on her mothers side. She is Dutch and Irish on her father's side.

We know her father is a practicing Jew.

We know she celebrates Christmas and other Christian holidays. But has been known to go to synagogue with her dad.

That is all we Know. And it really is a moot point until marriage and kids.
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Old 05-06-2017, 02:01 AM
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Thanks hel for posting this anyway. The more we know about Harry's predicted bride that better I think. I've always thought that Meghan's religion was a fluid one, shown by her non-denominational wedding. She attended social events at an LA synagogue with her dad, and that is likely all she did. She would have married in a religious ceremony to her Jewish husband if she had converted by then, IMO.
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Old 05-06-2017, 11:59 AM
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Hi everyone, first time posting!
I've been a lurker for a while so thought it was time I joined the forum!

The last few postings have been about Meghan's religion so I'll start there!

I have found no evidence to support which religion she practices. Some posters have also talked about her father's religion, but again I have found no evidence that supports which faith he follows if any. There is hardly anything known about Meghan's father except that he is white & was a lighting director. Everything else is just hearsay.

And going by Meghan's IG account I don't get a sense of a woman who is overtly religious. I'd rather refrain from trying to force religious labels on her until there is concrete proof.
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Old 05-06-2017, 12:31 PM
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Hi everyone, first time posting!
I've been a lurker for a while so thought it was time I joined the forum!

The last few postings have been about Meghan's religion so I'll start there!

I have found no evidence to support which religion she practices. Some posters have also talked about her father's religion, but again I have found no evidence that supports which faith he follows if any. There is hardly anything known about Meghan's father except that he is white & was a lighting director. Everything else is just hearsay.

And going by Meghan's IG account I don't get a sense of a woman who is overtly religious. I'd rather refrain from trying to force religious labels on her until there is concrete proof.
Welcome to TRF Queen E.! Glad to see you jumping into the fray with a really good point.

I'm going to join the club with you that we shouldn't put any kind of a religious label on Meghan (or anyone for that matter). She may have been raised in the faiths of her father and her mother but when it comes down to the bottom line, a favorite quote comes to mind for me. "God (however one perceives him/her) has no grandchildren". Religion and spirituality are very personal to a person and no one is exactly alike. I think we should respect this when discussing Meghan.

Just my opinion.
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Old 05-06-2017, 12:35 PM
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Someone has tweeted Meghan is watching Harry play polo today....if that's true I'm surprised no pics have surfaced yet.


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