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Old 03-06-2017, 07:31 PM
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For me, body language in a situation like this from a few photographs is easy to explain. Its similar to judging a book by its cover.
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Old 03-06-2017, 10:34 PM
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True - what I noticed was that Meghan was being very physically affectionate with Harry, but he didn't seem to be reciprocating.
Yes. That was what I saw. It was out-of-balance. But regarding the body language, the stroking of Harry's back is a big one. I can recall the body language experts mentioning President Obama's touching (on the arm or back), a sign of assumed dominance. But it was different with Meghan, the stroking was several times (I believe) and seemed intended to calm/comfort/who knows but it did not seem of equals. Her attempt did not seem to create the connection. His failure to engage 'proportionately' suggests something to me. It's her call, but I'd be heading out the door if I were her.

I agree with this sentence in the article: "Other images of the couple drinking cocktails at a beach reception suggest Meghan is 'going out of her way to be entertaining,' Judi believes." None of the cool aloofness of a Cressida.

I suspect she is out of her element, like has been suggested in the Vanity Fair article. I mean this in a way not against Meghan. I mean that the social clique of the British upper classes is a hard one to break into. As a genial American she would find the aristocratic 'coolness' hard to break through, so of course she would be trying hard to be 'entertaining'.
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Old 03-06-2017, 11:33 PM
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Yes. That was what I saw. It was out-of-balance. But regarding the body language, the stroking of Harry's back is a big one. I can recall the body language experts mentioning President Obama's touching (on the arm or back), a sign of assumed dominance. But it was different with Meghan, the stroking was several times (I believe) and seemed intended to calm/comfort/who knows but it did not seem of equals. Her attempt did not seem to create the connection. His failure to engage 'proportionately' suggests something to me. It's her call, but I'd be heading out the door if I were her.

I agree with this sentence in the article: "Other images of the couple drinking cocktails at a beach reception suggest Meghan is 'going out of her way to be entertaining,' Judi believes." None of the cool aloofness of a Cressida.

I suspect she is out of her element, like has been suggested in the Vanity Fair article. I mean this in a way not against Meghan. I mean that the social clique of the British upper classes is a hard one to break into. As a genial American she would find the aristocratic 'coolness' hard to break through, so of course she would be trying hard to be 'entertaining'.
That's a bit dramatic based on a few photos. Meghan is an extrovert, so her body language is going to be more expressive to begin with. For all we know, Harry could've been bummed about sending that tray of drinks flying. You've never had a time where you or your significant other are just having a bad moment and it had nothing to do with the other person? I know I have.
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Old 03-06-2017, 11:34 PM
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I'm sorry but I laughed out loud at "cool aloofness of a Cressida". Have we already forgotten how people bashed Cressida and questioned why her and Harry were rarely seen together? I even remember some speculating that Harry didn't put much effort into the relationship. Quite a stark contrast between that and Harry being criticized and questioned for trying to protect Meghan and visiting her right after his Caribbean tour. This new narrative is too funny.

I suspect that Harry actually likes that Meghan doesn't have any "aristocratic coolness". She brings "normalcy" which is something he has seemed to crave for a long time. If he wanted the former, I'm sure he would be dating an aristocrat, instead of going out of his way to make this relationship work with Meghan. Maybe just maybe Meghan was being herself. It's possible. :)
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Old 03-07-2017, 12:20 AM
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Yes. That was what I saw. It was out-of-balance. But regarding the body language, the stroking of Harry's back is a big one. I can recall the body language experts mentioning President Obama's touching (on the arm or back), a sign of assumed dominance. But it was different with Meghan, the stroking was several times (I believe) and seemed intended to calm/comfort/who knows but it did not seem of equals. Her attempt did not seem to create the connection. His failure to engage 'proportionately' suggests something to me. It's her call, but I'd be heading out the door if I were her.

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I suspect she is out of her element, like has been suggested in the Vanity Fair article. I mean this in a way not against Meghan. I mean that the social clique of the British upper classes is a hard one to break into. As a genial American she would find the aristocratic 'coolness' hard to break through, so of course she would be trying hard to be 'entertaining'.
Well, I wasn't taking it so seriously that I'd recommend Meghan head out the door...another set of photos could turn up, and I could change my mind...mostly I'm taking this all as light-hearted speculation. Though I genuinely was surprised at their body language in the wedding photos.

However, are the British upper classes really so cool and cliquish? A friend of mine lived in England for a few years, and she said it was hard to make friends (not just among the upper class, but any class, because everyone had their friend groups and didn't really deviate from them).
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Old 03-07-2017, 07:56 AM
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Re the body language general discussion - I have always felt extremely uncomfortable when I knew my friends were watching me around a suitor. I can only imagine how I would react if I knew it were all being captured by high high power telephoto cameras, only to have the body language analyzed ad nauseam later in the press. I'd certainly not be relaxed. JMO.
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Old 03-07-2017, 09:49 AM
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Aren't these pictures of two short situations? When they're walking out of the ceremony, and at that table, when the lady was talking to them, and then when they were ordering drinks? They held hands at one point, and then were talking with other people. I don't get what Harry was supposed to do, actually? Kiss Meghan's hand when she perhaps comforted him? I'm thinking there are silly expectations of how real life relationships look like. Not every touch and word gets a reaction, from anyone. IMO this is how a normal, not OTT obnoxious couple looks like.
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Old 03-07-2017, 10:05 AM
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How can people analyze the relationship of a couple for half a dozen photos? Nobody knows what was going on with Harry. Suddenly he was on a bad day, with some pain, in a bad mood ... does anyone here know what happens to him and Meghan when the two are alone, in moments of intimacy ??? I'm sure not

I found it funny to cite Cressida, because I've never seen chemistry between her and Harry, quite the contrary, this picture sets everything up, he in front leaving her behind

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/...08_634x522.jpg
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Old 03-07-2017, 10:11 AM
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Time to move on please and get some perspective - also let's not start analysing the body language of Harry with his former girlfriends, let alone with his current one. Thank you.
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Old 03-07-2017, 10:27 AM
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More pictures!!
I am guilty and want to see more pics of the couple 😋
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Old 03-07-2017, 10:48 AM
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More pictures!!
I am guilty and want to see more pics of the couple 😋
Me too!!! I'm so greedy,70 something pictures wasn't enough! They might not give us anymore though because all the backlash from the wedding pictures.I'm sure they have heard about them by now and they probably aren't happy about being judged.
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Old 03-07-2017, 11:04 AM
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Prince Harry and Meghan Markle very much together at friend's wedding in Jamaica

She is usually right so I hope we see these sets of photos soon!
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Old 03-07-2017, 11:29 AM
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The notion that Meghan was trying to console him sounds completely believable.
Lainey also has the most pap pictures I have ever seen of the wedding.
I kind of feel bad for the couple. Their special day was filled with Paparazzi! Perhaps they should not have publicly stated where the wedding should have been.
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Old 03-07-2017, 12:01 PM
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It does suck, that there's extra caution for privacy being ensured, and the paparazzi still manage to picture very intimate moments of them. I was wondering why there wasn't more pictures, but this explains it well.
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Old 03-07-2017, 12:22 PM
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It does suck, that there's extra caution for privacy being ensured, and the paparazzi still manage to picture very intimate moments of them. I was wondering why there wasn't more pictures, but this explains it well.
Considering the reports we've gotten regarding them kissing and how Harry couldn't keep his hands off of Meghan and then going down to the beach, I was surprised as well. I feel like if that'd been another guest, they might as well snap a cell phone pic and sell it along with the story to the tabloid. But if it was the paparazzi being the source for that story, that's explains a lot.
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Old 03-07-2017, 01:37 PM
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Prince Harry and Meghan Markle very much together at friend's wedding in Jamaica

She is usually right so I hope we see these sets of photos soon!

Interesting- do the tiers on Meghan's dress detach?

Because it's a short dress in some of the pictures.
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Old 03-07-2017, 02:03 PM
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Interesting- do the tiers on Meghan's dress detach?

Because it's a short dress in some of the pictures.
She has it pulled up to her knees in some pics.

I felt like a creep looking at those pictures. Especially the ones obviously taken behind trees of random wedding guests.
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Old 03-07-2017, 02:19 PM
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Prince Harry and Meghan Markle very much together at friend's wedding in Jamaica

She is usually right so I hope we see these sets of photos soon!

Interesting reading...puts more perspective on the pics.


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Old 03-07-2017, 04:00 PM
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She has it pulled up to her knees in some pics.

I felt like a creep looking at those pictures. Especially the ones obviously taken behind trees of random wedding guests.

Oh, right. I see that now.

Don't feel like a creep; it is natural to want to see the pictures (otherwise the tabloids wouldn't print them).
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